Being inconsistent really grinds my gears. I get the equal start with magnums and AR’s, okay great. If i pick up a BR or DMR I shouldn’t have to worry about being sniped by a magnum across the map. Same with the AR. The ADS with these weapons is way to far in terms of range. Too many times am I finding it easy to die to these guns because of this. Not to mention the time to kill in this game has ramped up to extremes. The plasma caster is a great example. As soon as the shields are down, boom dead. Covenant weapons shouldn’t be able to do the ‘one shot’ critical damage that we all have diverted to BR’s or precision weapons for. Theres a big need for some balancing here.
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> It’s always interesting to read people who quit. As if the community cares. I recently quit watching Gotham. Does anybody care? I doubt it. Sorry you don’t like Halo 5 OP. If you prefer older Halo games go play them instead. God Bless America.
^ This. The Halo community will be just fine. A small portion will leave for COD and Battlefront, although I have never understood the idea that you can only play one game at a time. Fallout 4 comes out in a week. I will be playing the heck out of it, and I will still be playing Halo 5 just like I am still playing Assassins Creed Syndicate right now. There are so many good games out and more on the way. Why would anyone want to limit themselves to one game? I will be jumping between a number of em. What a terrible problem to have eh? Too many good games to play!
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> > I know the aiming sucks but what can we do about it- nothing cause 343 don’t give a care about what happens to the community. As long as it sells then they will be happy.
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> People like you are what is wrong with the community, not 343. They put their heart and soul into this game trying to make it the best they could for us and they honestly did a fantastic job and all you can do is give them crap over stupid little things and complain. Get a freakin life
Yeah, this is 343. not Bungie.
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> > I can honestly say ive not come across any problems what so ever with the aiming? I really dont understand the complaints people are making about it? can someone explain what is ACTUALLY wrong with it not what they THINK is wrong with it?
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> > And before anyone says ‘you obviously havent played Halo before’ etc like ive seen people reply on other messages in the forum, my first game was Halo on the original Xbox. I love FPS games and it feels as good as any other game to me… Im just curious as to what people are actually moaning about.
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> Dude I have no idea what people are complaining about. The shooting mechanics in this game are superb. They feel fantastic. Aiming is just fine. 343 just cannot win with some of these people. I will be so happy when the COD crew hits the door. The rest should just go back to the MCC is they want to pretend to live in 2004. 343 did a superb job of making a next(current) gen Halo. They added in ADS and great new movement mechanics while still keeping a Halo feel to it all and giving a nod to the vets in the process. They could have just wiped it all away and started fresh but they tried to balance everything as much as they could.
Different types of players probably have diff problems. Mines is aim acceleration. Set your sensitivity to 3, slowly start moving your right stick to the right, notice when it reaches a certain point the aim just goes to sensitivity 15 and insane.
I can go into detail why it bothers me so much, idk if you care to hear about it, but I mean all I can do is deal with it for now. The inconsistencies wotb the aim are frustrating though.
Lol with those stats, I don’t see why you would even complain… Just sayin. No one will miss you if you leave. I will say, if the aiming is what took you over the edge and you think there’s better overall multiplayer games out there (recent) , you are probably just upset that it’s not an easier game like CoD and your post game stats don’t have you at the top with 45-1 k/d. This game is amazing because of how much more emphasis on team play it requires. So -Yoink-, with all due respect.
It does make a noticeable difference but not enough of one to make the game bad. I personally enjoy the new game and I don’t feel like they’ve done anything wrong
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> Being inconsistent really grinds my gears. I get the equal start with magnums and AR’s, okay great. If i pick up a BR or DMR I shouldn’t have to worry about being sniped by a magnum across the map. Same with the AR. The ADS with these weapons is way to far in terms of range. Too many times am I finding it easy to die to these guns because of this. Not to mention the time to kill in this game has ramped up to extremes. The plasma caster is a great example. As soon as the shields are down, boom dead. Covenant weapons shouldn’t be able to do the ‘one shot’ critical damage that we all have diverted to BR’s or precision weapons for. Theres a big need for some balancing here.
“a big need for weapon balancing here.”
Um no. It’s called being a good shot. Your average player can’t pull off a perfect kill across the map. It takes time and practice to be able to successfully do that.
Im interested to see how it is after a patch, I noticed it felt weird at launch too.
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> I’m honestly neutral on this subject. I remember my first game I thought I would never be any good at this game, but I’ve gotten used to it. While I do prefer the classic style of aiming, I’m ok with this change, and whether 343 decide to change it or not doesn’t really matter to me. But it is a shame to see so many people are having trouble accepting the fact that Halo can’t stay the same forever.
It has nothing to do with “having trouble accepting that Halo can’t stay the same forever!” Why do you guys insist on this being the reason we provide feedback?
PEOPLE, Listen, we like change! Every previous Halo has withstood change. Change is necessary. That’s what keeps Halo exciting! But the changes are logical and evolutionary. When we provide feedback over something we don’t like, usually it’s because something doesn’t follow the logical curve of evolution. There’s nothing wrong with the game evolving, but do you realize what evolving is? It’s a very slow process that adapts as traits are accumulated over time. Species take many many years to evolve. That’s how Halo is. If it keeps the same framework and foundation that Halo has always been then adding new logical assets is great. It’s necessary to stay alive. But you can’t take the human race and say ok our grandkids are going to be elephants this time around! No, we change small traits like genetics, skin tones, physical features, size, things that change but very logically and slowly.
Sprint is a good example of an evolution. People have always wanted to get from A to B faster. Why else would there be the existence of flag tossing, skill jumping, shortcut finding, speed increasing attempts in every game? Sprint is one of the most common aspects of video games these days. Does everyone like it? No. But overall it’s accepted because it’s a logical evolutionary move. Halo is successful when it follows this procedure, even if some people don’t prefer changes, as long as the whole accepts it.
The aiming in Halo 5 is not only evolutionary or logical, it’s broken, inaccurate and inconsistent. The whole of the Halo community clearly does not accept it and you can clearly see that just in this one post. I started counting the number of negative responses to positive responses. I stopped when the number of people who liked the aiming reached 10, while the number of people who expressed issues with this was 32!!
It is not a shame to see people sticking up for what Halo is, and not letting new faces ruin it with a temporary joy they find or idea they want to experiment with. It has nothing to do with change, we like change.
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> > If they don’t fix it by Tuesday then I’m done with this game. Aiming makes an already crappy Halo game even crappier.
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> Woah don’t hold a gun to the head of 343i. What makes you think you’re so important for 343i to give a -Yoink-? Seriously, I hope by Tuesday all you spoilt kids leave Halo and these forums.
I can’t agree with this statement any more. Please leave.
Incoming PSA: The forums are filled to the brim with people whining about -Yoink- in this game. Look, if you don’t enjoy it… move on. There are other games. Call it a failure or a disappointment or whatever, but hanging around trying to force yourself to like it will not improve the game or the community. You are merely engaging in some sort of self-entitled circle jerk of delusion where you believe your complaints and feelings are shared with you by the rest of the world. In fact, most critics and players agree that (while the campaign may be lacking) the multiplayer is some of the best that has been offered in the franchise. So stop poisoning the forums because 343i didn’t build the game 100% to your liking. That is all.
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> Because I’m not the only person that thinks the aiming is atrocious. And I pick Tuesday because it’s the usual release/patch/update day. If they don’t fix it then I’m not playing a broken game any further. That’s all I’m saying.
tuesday seemed arbitrary until your last post… i was confused, but now see the light. i don’t think they’re going to fix it, but i only play in the most casual of senses and am not really bothered by it. i hope those that are find a happy medium with those that like it in the future.
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> > If they don’t fix it by Tuesday then I’m done with this game. Aiming makes an already crappy Halo game even crappier.
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> Woah don’t hold a gun to the head of 343i. What makes you think you’re so important for 343i to give a -Yoink-? Seriously, I hope by Tuesday all you spoilt kids leave Halo and these forums.
I can’t agree with this statement any more. Please leave.
Incoming PSA: The forums are filled to the brim with people whining about -Yoink- in this game. Look, if you don’t enjoy it… move on. There are other games. Call it a failure or a disappointment or whatever, but hanging around trying to force yourself to like it will not improve the game or the community. You are merely engaging in some sort of self-entitled circle jerk of delusion where you believe your complaints and feelings are shared with you by the rest of the world. In fact, most critics and players agree that (while the campaign may be lacking) the multiplayer is some of the best that has been offered in the franchise. So stop poisoning the forums because 343i didn’t build the game 100% to your liking. That is all.
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> Lol with those stats, I don’t see why you would even complain… Just sayin. No one will miss you if you leave. I will say, if the aiming is what took you over the edge and you think there’s better overall multiplayer games out there (recent) , you are probably just upset that it’s not an easier game like CoD and your post game stats don’t have you at the top with 45-1 k/d. This game is amazing because of how much more emphasis on team play it requires. So -Yoink-, with all due respect.
I’m with this guy. At first play I couldn’t believe how different everything was, I changed my controller layout to Halo 4 settings and pushed on and I feels like I anticipated now. And all the killer new ways to use the AR now, and the option to find the optics that work the best for YOU per weapon…
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> > If you all have/had such problems with Halo 5, why are you playing?? Trade it in and move on. NO ONE CARES if you’re done with the game.
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> Remember when people said the same thing when Halo 4 came out and then everyone did just that and the game died in less than a year, remember that? Yeah well Halo 5 will have the same outcome if they don’t fix the aiming & the radar, they made Halo 4 too casual with stupid drops & now they have made Halo 5 for a small minority of competitive gamers and alienated the casuals making the aiming ridiculous for no good reason. You want aim acceleration cause it’s better for the the pros then make it able to toggle on and off don’t force everyone to adjust when we’ve been playing Halo so long with same way for over 10 years. Want to make radar useless for pros, well good thing you have custom games that pros will play to turn that off anyway, why ruin the game for the majority who give you sales to appease the minority? That’s bad business and if things aren’t changed people will do exactly as you said and trade this game in and forget about it, then people like you will be like “what happened to all the players? Remember when Halo games use to have lots of players?”.
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And I wouldn’t even go as far as saying the aiming is made for a small minority of competitive gamers. I’m not a pro by any means, but all I play in Halo is competitive matchmaking and I’ve loved it since Halo 1. This feature will not be enjoyed by even the pros. I don’t know whether it’s aim acceleration, dead zones, sensitivity issues or simple lag on the “great” dedicated servers. All I’ve noticed thus far is it’s inconsistent. And no pro or competitive gamer will like that. Some games I feel like the response time on my tv is seconds behind and other games it’s great.
And ya any person who wants the population to leave is just uneducated unless you only play local gameplay.
I think at this point 343 has realized it’s a problem. They are looking into fixing some aspects of it for the next patch. We don’t need to make a new thread about the aiming every day. If it’s still wonky after the next patch, they should prepare for more rough feedback. I for one just want faster sensitivity. I hope that’s something they put in there because 10 feels downright sluggish at times.
I’ve seen a bunch of debates on various forums about problems, and there’s something I feel is almost never addressed in the proper manner.
It’s totally OK for people to have different opinions about things and not see eye to eye on a situation. It’s Ok for people who don’t like the game, or things about the game, and as some have stated, it’s perfectly fine for their position to be represented on the forums.
The main problem is that most of these posts (even the titles) aren’t presented in such a way as to display the position and supportive information in a constructive way (video/screenshots/other nonverbal data) and instead come off as “screw you, screw this game, make the change I’m demanding or I QUIIIIIIT!” In my opinion, that really undermines the change or adjustment you’re looking for, and brings everyone out into the street into two different pitchfork-and-torch-wielding mobs.
With direct regards to the OP - the stats you presented look really good, and I feel like the structure of your post and the thread title come off as the type of “entitled” demands rather than inviting a serious debate about the suggested problem. This leads to the type of argumentative thread we’ve had, rather than a constructive discussion of whether a problem exists, and how it can be corrected.
How can people complain about this? Sure, it may not be the same as previous games, but if you can’t adjust then that’s on you. Why would they release a new game with old mechanics? Half the fun is conquering the differences.
Solution: Play older games and keep this crap off the forums. Try selling your game online to someone who will appreciate it, you know, make a kid happy around Christmas time ;).
People are always going to complain about something, they seem to get angry at the littlest things. If you don’t like it, stop playing. 343 has worked their hardest to create a Halo game in which we know and love. Compared to Halo 4, Halo 5 seems like way more of a “Bungie” game. Anyways, someone is always going to have something to complain about, even if it’s the tiniest thing in the world.