Well it's time to stop complaining and agree

Games Other Halo
1

that halo 4 is a total mess, and it’s not all 343’s fault i’m having more fun playing farcry 3’s multiplayer, at least in that game everyone plays as a team, yeah sure theres no motion sensor, the gameplay is too fast, and theres lagg issues but at least the community and the gameplay endorses teamwork, in halo 4 people run around randomly trying to find someone to kill when they should be focusing on the objective.

yes 343 hasn’t given the game enough attention and they could have put more effort into it overall but regardless, it’s not all their fault why the game is bad, it’s you
the players that have ruined this game, and i hope you’re all happy for it, so stop complaining, and move on, theres lots of other games out there to play such as farcry 3, borderlands 2, the walking dead, heck even black ops 2 if you like COD (which i don’t) etc. otherwise just go back to halo 3, halo 4 is dead, 343 are ignoring everyone, and everyone is biting at 343, it’s over people just accept it, halo 4 is over, halo is over, stop buying halo products.

now let the hate train of halo 4 fanboys come over here and tell me that i’m wrong which i’m not, this is the truth and people need to see it, halo 4 is a cookie cutter halo/COD hybrid with horrid maps, mediocre forge, barely playable multiplayer and a short campaign, and spartan ops is simply put awful.

2

343 is not ignoring anyone, if you even glanced at the new title updates coming up you’d see they’re hard at work. Games are hard to make, you can’t expect anything to happen instantly.

It’s a legit good game, and if you didn’t like Halo 4, you wouldn’t be on the forums.

3

Oh, and I checked your service record. I says you haven’t played Halo 4. It helps to play a game before criticizing it.

4

> Oh, and I checked your service record. I says you haven’t played Halo 4. It helps to play a game before criticizing it.

sigh i don’t like explaining this time and time again but here goes…
my xbox live gamertag is not linked to waypoint because someone elses e-mail is attatched to it, it’s a long and complicated story… i have played the game, my gamertag is terry 309, go look it up.

and the title updates are irrelevent, the game has already failed, i don’t care about whether or not the matchmaking is playable (which it isn’t) and i don’t care about new playlists, i just want 343 to realize that they have failed, i want the players to realize 343 are never going to change it, and that they should move on.

343 cannot change the forge maps…
343 cannot bring back firefight…
343 can’t extend the campaign…
343 can’t make the forge palette practical…

they will never fix this game because there’s too much to fix and you can’t change the entire code.

and yeah matchmaking can be fixed which would be nice but it’s still not good enough, halo 4 has failed it’s fans, 343 took a risk that they knew would be pricey and look what happened… all people wanted was halo 3 back because halo 3 was arguably the most successful halo game.

5

> 343 is not ignoring anyone, if you even glanced at the new title updates coming up you’d see they’re hard at work. Games are hard to make, you can’t expect anything to happen instantly.

you know what? the first title update 343 should have made is to remove complex from matchmaking, the map is broken, fact people have found the glitches in it so it has already been proven unplayable.

the second update should have been to remove the mantis from ragnarok, a heavy vehacle should never be on a medium sized map in the first place, the mantis covers all choke points only noobs resort to using it so they can get easy kills.

the third update that should have been made is to remove the dmr so it’s kept to one weapon per race, the battle rifle is underpowered only because of the dmr, the carbine is perfected due to it’s new and improved crosshair so thankfully the two weapons are an even match, but the dmr wins against all of them. the dmr was bad enough in reach, possibly worse but it’s not much better in halo 4 it just needs removing, ever since the dmr, halo’s matchmaking has sucked.

6

There’s always a possibility that there will be new forge maps, do not count that out. :slight_smile:

As for the campaign, it may have been relatively short, but if you are a story fan like me, I play for that story. If you read the Forerunner Saga, the story becomes much more comprehensive and much more immersive.

The Librarian and Didact may seem a bit random, and why does he want to destroy humans so much? You really come to find out why once reading. (If you are wondering, or maybe you might know), The Didact says that humans have yet to obtain the “Mantle,” somewhat of an authority. He serves the mantle, and see’s that there still yet may be time to destroy humanity before they take over, and Forerunners remain supreme. The Librarian on the other hand, inserted humans on Halo’s and preserved them. This is why she helps Chief.

Anyways, Forge is a little wonky, but I have not dabbled with it much. I’d rather have the Reach Forge, that was very good, but I’m not here to criticize the game, I’m here to support it.

7

I’m not going back to Halo3 not when Defiance and Alien Colonial Marines is looming on the horizon. Not when Reach has FireFight and ForgeWorld. I’m not going back to Halo3 not when I have a basketball court down the road or in my kitchen junk drawer I have a deck of cards to fall back on. No thanks.

8

> I’m not going back to Halo3 not when Defiance and Alien Colonial Marines is looming on the horizon. Not when Reach has FireFight and ForgeWorld. I’m not going back to Halo3 not when I have a basketball court down the road or in my kitchen junk drawer I have a deck of cards to fall back on. No thanks.

what i said was, go back to halo 3 is you don’t have anything else to play, i suggested many other alternative games to play, if you have something else to play, go play it by all means, just leave this horrific mess of a game behind, speaking of which i’ll be going back to farcry 3 soon, that game makes halo 4 look like a joke.

9

As frustrating as this game is. It’s not that bad.

Come a month and they don’t patch the DMR and the BS then yes I will come back to this topic and agree with you; cause quite frankly im at that point as well.

10

some of us think halo 4 is awesome and only bigots demand everyone agree with them

11

> There’s always a possibility that there will be new forge maps, do not count that out. :slight_smile:
>
> As for the campaign, it may have been relatively short, but if you are a story fan like me, I play for that story. If you read the Forerunner Saga, the story becomes much more comprehensive and much more immersive.
>
> The Librarian and Didact may seem a bit random, and why does he want to destroy humans so much? You really come to find out why once reading. (If you are wondering, or maybe you might know), The Didact says that humans have yet to obtain the “Mantle,” somewhat of an authority. He serves the mantle, and see’s that there still yet may be time to destroy humanity before they take over, and Forerunners remain supreme. The Librarian on the other hand, inserted humans on Halo’s and preserved them. This is why she helps Chief.
>
> Anyways, Forge is a little wonky, but I have not dabbled with it much. I’d rather have the Reach Forge, that was very good, but I’m not here to criticize the game, I’m here to support it.

forge is filled with glitches, it feels horrible to use and the save glitch is far too frequent, the pieces are impractical, theres not enough gametypes to make use of it, forge was the selling point for me when i saw impact… only to find out that theres kill barriers everywhere and that the terrain is still as wonky as ever plus the forge pieces all have holes in them whcih shouldn’t be on a space map, yes you might think i’m making a big deal out of it but if you are trying to make a space ship map and you have holes in the floor, people couldn’t breathe inside it, yeah sure we’re spartans we don’t have a problem but what if we wanted to remake an iconic space ship in forge or something with a fully decked out interior or just wanted to make one for fun (as many people did in reach because it was fun) only to find out that theres holes everywhere?

12

> some of us think halo 4 is awesome and only bigots demand everyone agree with them

halo 4 is a failure, just like two worlds was a failure, i liked two worlds but i still admit that it was a failure because the flaws are obvious, halo 4 is the same.

13

> As frustrating as this game is. It’s not that bad.
>
> Come a month and they don’t patch the DMR and the BS then yes I will come back to this topic and agree with you; cause quite frankly im at that point as well.

i don’t want the dmr to be patched, i want it removed, it makes no sense lore wise to be in the game and nor does it make sense gameplay wise, since the dmr, halo has taken a major downfall. it’s not only the dmr though, there are many problems with the game regardless the game is mediocre at best even with matchmaking fixes, some may like it but it’s not AAA standard.

14

no it isn’t it’s awesome…that’s my opinion, deal with it

15

> no it isn’t it’s awesome…that’s my opinion, deal with it

i can’t stop you playing it but it’s a fact that the game is mediocre based upon other installments in the series, you can clearly see that not much work was put into it compared with the other halo’s. 343 were in over their head when they took halo on.

16

> i can’t stop you playing it but it’s a fact that the game is mediocre based upon other installments in the series, you can clearly see that not much work was put into it compared with the other halo’s. 343 were in over their head when they took halo on.

i think it’s cool and i have alot of fun playing it…learn what a fact is

17

> > As frustrating as this game is. It’s not that bad.
> >
> > Come a month and they don’t patch the DMR and the BS then yes I will come back to this topic and agree with you; cause quite frankly im at that point as well.
>
> i don’t want the dmr to be patched, i want it removed, it makes no sense lore wise to be in the game and nor does it make sense gameplay wise, since the dmr, halo has taken a major downfall.

I wholeheartedly agree with this. However you don’t need to resort to canon to want it gone, the DMR quite simply doesn’t FIT in Halo. There’s no map where it provides a possitive effect because it’s always pushing for more and more extreme ranged combat. On exile your back is always to a wall because the weapon itself is trying to operate at a greater range than even that BTB map can provide. On Ragnarok you’re routinely sending down lethal fire when at best you would have been harassing someone in Halo 3. Movement pathways are choked, weapon choice is forced, and the game becomes a lot more dimensional than even the BR-happiest match in Halo 3 was. It’s like the worst trench-warfare that Standoff had to offer (minus the occasional subterfuge), made to be the entire game and though some people may like that it’s not, nor has ever been, Halo’s strongest selling point. It’s not what we should be trying to promote by keeping the weapon around (at least in any way similar to it’s current form.)

18

“Lets all agree”

You do realise this is waypoint, and not only are people entitled to their own opinions, but most of them will disagree with you just for the sake of starting an argument.

Secondly, most of Halo 4’s problem will be vanquished if we ever get a couple of classic playlists like were originally promised.

The game itself is fine, being that the movement, jumping, and for the most part weapon balance is all well. It does have a tad to much aim assist and paintbrush aim assist for my liking, but I can live with that.

The problem there in lies the gametypes, like usual. Aside from the fact that we can spawn with things that make vehicles and shotguns useless, not to mention fraud map movement and make stand still gameplay a much more viable option, but the lack of strategic weapon spawns leaves us to pick up random ordinance and makes games purely luck based.

You might get the ordinance, they might get the ordinance, but even if you get ordinance at the same time, you might get a needler to their incineration canon.

Ergo, bad mechanic. What we need is a classic competitive playlist with balanced spawns, good maps, and weapons placed on maps. Now, aside fromt he MLG playlist, the chances of what I just said happening are slim to none, unless 343i managed to come to their senses in terms of slayer pro, which is again, unlikely.

19

> that halo 4 is a total mess, and it’s not all 343’s fault i’m having more fun playing farcry 3’s multiplayer, at least in that game everyone plays as a team, yeah sure theres no motion sensor, the gameplay is too fast, and theres lagg issues but at least the community and the gameplay endorses teamwork, in halo 4 people run around randomly trying to find someone to kill when they should be focusing on the objective.
>
> yes 343 hasn’t given the game enough attention and they could have put more effort into it overall but regardless, it’s not all their fault why the game is bad, it’s you
> the players that have ruined this game, and i hope you’re all happy for it, so stop complaining, and move on, theres lots of other games out there to play such as farcry 3, borderlands 2, the walking dead, heck even black ops 2 if you like COD (which i don’t) etc. otherwise just go back to halo 3, halo 4 is dead, 343 are ignoring everyone, and everyone is biting at 343, it’s over people just accept it, halo 4 is over, halo is over, stop buying halo products.
>
> now let the hate train of halo 4 fanboys come over here and tell me that i’m wrong which i’m not, this is the truth and people need to see it, halo 4 is a cookie cutter halo/COD hybrid with horrid maps, mediocre forge, barely playable multiplayer and a short campaign, and spartan ops is simply put awful.

No, it’s 343’s fault.

They slapped together a half baked game as fast and cheaply as possible to beat a competitor to market and rake in holiday sales dollars, and they skipped a public beta that would have found many of these issues in order to do it.

Everything wrong with Halo 4 is 343’s fault. There’s nothing wrong with it that couldn’t have been prevented if they had only started work on it sooner and spent more money to do so.

All of this is 343’s fault:

  • No website based file share, I still don’t understand why they can’t just copy the code that makes Reach’s work. Sure, Bungie coded it, but Microsoft owns the IP, so they can use it. Time to set the Hubris aside, admit that Bungie is better than you 343, and use that CTRL C and CTRL V combo to copy Bungie’s code to get your game working.

  • No website based video rendering, again, this time in 2010, I could render clips of Halo 3 on line. Not in Halo 4!

  • Highly limited console based file share

  • No theater for campaign or SpOps

  • Limited customs options

  • Remaining on P2P networking, seriously?

  • No public beta, which would have found many of these issues.

  • No private community support here on Waypoint.

  • Employees don’t participate in their own forums, except BS Angel who was hired specifically for that. Bungie employees post on B.Net. 343 employees only post on Neogaf.

  • Bulletins totally ignore issues save for the last one, and it still ignored the file share and CSR ranking system.

  • Selling an incomplete product

343 is a multi-million dollar corporation that is owned and founded by a multi-billion dollar corporation. There is no reason for a consumer to feel bad for them. I assure you, nothing we post in these forums will emotionally scar a 343 employee to the point that a quick glance at their bank account balance won’t make them fully recovered and happy again.

Bungie was an independent company before its time with Microsoft. It invented and owned Halo before Microsoft bought both of them. Bungie sacrificed the Halo IP, left it with Microsoft, and gave Microsoft buckets of cash to be its own company again. As a consumer, that should tell you something.

Bungie’s Destiny will be out before Halo 5. It will most likely be out before 343 ever figures out how to actually finish Halo 4 Beta. I know what game developer will be getting my gaming dollars. It will be the one that actually has large fully open public betas to test its games and sells completed products to consumers.

20

> halo 4 is a failure, just like two worlds was a failure, i liked two worlds but i still admit that it was a failure because the flaws are obvious, halo 4 is the same.

DAT HYPERBOLE.