Well everyone, it got worse

Absolutely unacceptable. I want bonus stuff for completing campaigns just like in MCC.

So instead of them getting $60 guaranteed day 1 most players will just download it via gamepass, this means that they make far less money from the game then what they used to. You even used Halo 5 as an example. Halo 5 had tons of microtransactions in it (via the store and Warzone) and thats pretty noticeable when you compare it to Halo 1, 2, 3, Reach, or 4.

My point is that if you want them to not have microtransactions, then you have to ask them for the game to be the full $60 on release, just as past Halos were. You can’t get it for ‘free’ with Gamepass, you can’t download it at no cost to you, everybody has to pay $60 day 1 in order to play it. Very simple stuff. Similar to how a lot of games do things, although it is not as common as it once was.

I don’t understand why they don’t just have a catalog of all available armor pieces and you could just buy what you want for $1.00 each? (at least with the classic armors) I am not opposed to paying for cosmetics in certain instances. The way it is now is incredibly greedy. I’d feel better if the free battlepass or whatever had a good amount of unlocks. It’s extremely frustrating to unlock armor you cannot access.

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The Single Player is $60. I don’t get what you mean by cost $5. And personally I don’t care if I have to pay money or not. I want similar content to past games. And we don’t have that. Even if I did pay hundreds of dollars I still couldn’t get half the color combinations I could in Halo 2. Not as many emblems. And right now Armor is far more restrictive than Reach, no matter how much you pay. It’s not a matter of having to spend money. It’s a matter of certain aspects of the game being water down.

Gamepass costs money. If Microsoft was losing money by listing games on gamepass, they would stop doing it. They can add or remove any game they like. The fact is, Game Pass is more profitable than people buying games. Hence I don’t see it as them making less money. I mean, do you really believe they’d keep listing games on game pass if they were making less money doing so?

No one asked for the MP to be FTP. They did this, they are doing this to us. I was already ready to pay for the full game. Gamepass and everything was decided by Microsoft. It’s almost like you are blaming the players for everything that 343i and Microsoft have decided to do with this game. I was fine with how the older games did things.

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It’s disgusting how all the unlocks are padded out with copies of the same thing, except one is for a warthog, one is for your armor and so on.

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First the abysmal progression system that could have been avoided and now this. 343 really are trying to sabotage their best shot at a Halo game

I don’t plan to buy it. MP is free and the campaign will be playable via other means.
Late stage capitalism, everybody.

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There is zero point (outside of love of the game obviously) to continue your Gamepass subscription after you’ve beaten the game (and presumably) gotten all the achievements. Now Gamepass is awesome and people might keep it for other games or whatnot, but overall it just means that 343i/MS are going to make far less money day 1 then they used to on older Halos. This does not mean they will go bankrupt lol, just that in order for them to actually make money off of Infinite they have to use microtransactions.

That is not a flaw or a bug, that is intentional. My whole point is to connect the game’s F2P model with its microtransactions, they are inseparable.

Gamepass is just a subscription based model for Microsoft, obviously they make more money off of it long term (hence why they have such a huge -Yoink!- for it and are doing everything they can to increase numbers) however if you look closely you’ll notice that most of the titles on there also happen to have expansions, so a lot of the devs will put their games on Gamepass (I’m sure Microsoft gives them a very small slice of the pie) in the hopes they’ll pay real money for their DLC/expansions. So basically it works as a win/win scenario. Now if you arguing that Infinite’s SP will net them more money long term then not then that’s a fine argument to have, but overall its impossible to know exact numbers nor if that were the case.

I have a post history, you can read it if you like. I am saying that the microtransactions and F2P model are two sides of the same coin, and that you cannot have either by itself and expect it to work.

Awesome! That is not Infinite though obviously.

Do you see how absurd it is to compare a game from 20 years ago with a current one? That’s what you always do, comparing the entire bungie saga with that of 343. Don’t come to justify because literally those comparisons are the only thing you find on these forums. Now you are all hypocrites

Just stop engaging with the people defending this horrible system. They’re trolls. No rational, sane person would think what 343i is doing here is fine.

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at least with campagin coatings unlike the ones you have to buy these you basically work to earn them (which I plan to do as some of them look not bad banished deception looks good)

that’s literally the only armor I want (the Chief armor I am assuming), that’s always been my go to.

That’s the whole reason everyone is venting.

FTP games are the only games that have ever been profitable from adding microtransactions?
Got it.

343, you made a really good game. Please don’t ruin it by doing things like this.

Please let there be unlocks in the campaign too.

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The sad truth is that many developers and the management for those developers truly believe this is how the industry works now, and anything more consumer-friendly is basically failure.
When I was taking game design courses in college one of my professors was adamant about “Lootboxes are here to stay” And we all vehemently disagreed with him. Made for an interesting trimester.
It is true though, that production costs have skyrocketed, and to keep their profit margins looking fat they resort to scummy tactics without a thought for how scummy they are.

Hopefully someone will shake the marketing team out of their stupors and get them to look at the big picture, that it’s better to have a product that makes consistently high revenue over a long period of time than a product that makes a ton in one month then dies.

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It’s obvious that there’s a MkV helmet in the game, the bots spawn with it sometimes, let us unlock that at least, lol

They’re the only games that require it.

Every game makes money from microtransactions though, hence why they’re so prevalent.

Theres no way, they gotta change that before the release.