Well everyone, it got worse

I remember buying the Halo Wars 2 Ultimate Edition for 90 bucks and being the happiest adult on earth. A full campaign, fun multiplayer and all the DLCs

Simpler times…

And now if you want everthing the game has to offer your looking at well over 300$.

A distinct possibility

So much in a short little post…

1: whining about whining is meaningless. You don’t get anything and no one changes opinion because you’re not even arguing the subject, your on their opinions.

2: just because people are complaining about these things, doesn’t mean they’re one track minds only complaining about this specific thing. Entirely possible they also take time to provide feedback on other things they’re not fond of.

3: bumping threads you don’t like is only more attention to them, doing your own priorities a disservice.

4: i343 overcharging, and making fans disappointed isn’t going to help them economically, at all. You want fans to be happy with i343. That way they’re financially better off. Then maybe you’d get what you want.

5: The only way you’re going to get a new main Halo game is if Infinite fails. It is a live-service product, their plan is ten years where they’ll continuously update the game with new content, because it is far cheaper than to make new games.

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I want to believe that things could look differently if it was truly up to 343. Meaning if Microsoft didn’t own Halo and ultimately call the shots we might be treated better. We don’t really know what’s going on behind the scenes and what 343 has to agree to.

But apart from that I agree. I’m not ok with “pay more, get less”.

Microsoft may be the one asking for bigger specific things, like free to play multiplayer.
But they’re certainly not minute controlling i343 on how to distribute assets between campaign and multiplayer.
This decision is entirely on i343.

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I don’t see how this is such a massive problem. Free customizations for completing the campaign, awesome. None of it is armor? Alright. Don’t really care. As if it had to be some legendary piece of armor to begin with lmao

This feels like something EA would do. Maybe we should start looking into 343 hires during Infinites development and see if any of the new people used to work for EA.

What’s happening with Halo Infinite is not going to be given as much attention in comparison to what EA would do… or what they already have done.

Remember Battlefront 2 in late 2017? There they have set numerous gameplay and cosmetic items behind paywalls inside a very slow, grindy progression system at first.

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Halo 3 and 4: You can unlock cool armor by completing Campaign on certain difficulties!

Halo: Reach: You can earn credits in campaign and even Forge to buy whatever the heck you want!

Halo 5 and Infinite: LOL Campaign players, plz buy our store packs.

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This just shows 343 has absolutely no experience in the free-to-play business model. They thought free-to-play means pay-to-get-anything at the same time. It’s really unbalanced and comes across as greedy. They should realize that rewarding players can come around twofold.

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Another’s wrong doing doesn’t excuse smaller infringements of someone else.

Just because EA overstepped like they did doesn’t mean that this is ok. Not only that but it has already been discussed with plenty of happy memories following it.

Now, let’s make new happy memories with other companies overstepping boundries.

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And here everything is behind some kind of paywall with slow grindy challenges. It’s essentially EA’s Battlefront 2 all over again.

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Sounds like we need another Battlefront 2 riot with Halo Infinite, news media and all.

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I never said that what is happening in this game is okay. I hope you can understand that.

I’m just giving my opinion in that I think what happened with EA’s Battlefront 2 was far worse, especially considering how much popular Star Wars is compared to Halo and, of course, it being a literal pay-to-win, practically.

This is pretty disheartening.

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Of course we’d want something like that, I like it, but I am afraid that won’t happen. The Halo franchise is far from as popular that the Star Wars franchise is.

“mere child’s play” doesn’t really help.
The tone that sets is just that you’re fine with it.

And bringing it up, gives anyone an excuse to continue.
It’s not as bad as EA, not as bad as loot boxes, not as bad as whatever is the excuse the creators of these new mtx methods are looking for.
As long as it’s not “insert other thing here” etc.

If you’re not okay with this, then you say that, not bring up a catastrophe from 4 years ago and compare this to that, with this coming out as better than the catastrophe.

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That’s really disappointing, they couldn’t even give us anything more than those items, we were expecting things like armor cores and parts and weapon cores too, many. We will have only coatings and some charms and emblems, ridiculous.

And I don’t understand people who are ok with being given less for more money, with 20 bucks you could buy games full of content, now you have only few items. Even if you don’t care about cosmetics, you still get less for more (the multiplayer’s free, but F2P is just an excuse because it will cost even more if you want the same customization level than a paid game).

I’m considering getting a refund for the campaign, maybe buying it again when in sale and the game’s in better shape.

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“The tone that sets is just that you’re fine with it.”

To you, it may sound like I’m fine with it, but that’s not true. I don’t think tone of voice and emotions always should be used leading straight towards the facts.

I’ll admit though that my choice of words was not very good, only really because of your reaction to them. I have already denounced of what is happening to this game already if one could look at my post history, so I have not so much more going for me now.

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