Weapons Misclassification

The pistol is misclassified as a precision weapon needing only 5 successful shots to kill a spartan. It has the same accuracy and damage as the long-barreled Light Rifle (from the hip), DMR, and Carbine despite having a short barrel. If you’re going to give the pistol power like Halo 1 it needs to have the accuracy of that one.
The AR should be classified like the storm rifle because in an AR vs Pistol should not lose as much. An SMG takes less of a clip than the AR does to kill. For Halo 5

Anyone else confused like I am?

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Yeah, I like… Got nothing here. If anybody knows what the OP’s trying to say, please fill us in.

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When you guys figure out what he’s talking about please let me know…

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Unless he made an intentionally nonsensical post just for the laughs, in which case there is no meaning behind it and we could probably safely have the thread closed.

Honestly I can’t see this thread going anywhere productive so that’s probably the best course of action. If he wants to clarify and start a genuine conversation, he can try again later or edit this one before it gets closed down.

Well it’s a video game, based on a fictional universe, set in the future. I think they can classify their weapons how they please. Also Halo 5 pistol does not have the power of Halo CE pistol.

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> Well it’s a video game, based on a fictional universe, set in the future. I think they can classify their weapons how they please. Also Halo 5 pistol does not have the power of Halo CE pistol.

Considering that the Halo Universe is based on the balancing of weapons and is based on the real world (such as gravity) I’d say a short-barreled weapon is less accurate than a ranged DMR at a distance. I’m not saying that the pistol has the same amount of damage as the Halo CE, it’s just following that of the Halo CE pistol as the primary weapon because it’s Over Powered. I said like the Halo 1 pistol. The Halo 1 magnum has damage but has the pitfall of being less accurate.

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> Honestly I can’t see this thread going anywhere productive so that’s probably the best course of action. If he wants to clarify and start a genuine conversation, he can try again later or edit this one before it gets closed down.

The problem with being an illogical person in a logical world…
If you’ve ever played with the pistol as a weapon of choice on H5, it’s the reason you play using the pistol over the AR or any map weapon that’s doesn’t have a nave point. The pistol is Over Powered.

I’m talking about the “meta” in the game (Someone called it that in a message response).

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> If you’ve ever played with the pistol as a weapon of choice on H5, it’s the reason you play using the pistol over the AR or any map weapon that’s doesn’t have a nave point. The pistol is Over Powered.
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> I’m talking about the “meta” in the game (Someone called it that in a message response).

Look, I can understand your point about the magnum, but here’s the thing dude, the magnum fires .50 caliber rounds and it’s single shot. All single shot small projectile weapons in halo are precision weapons with the exception of the BR (except for the fact it shoots 9.5mm cartridges) which is a 3 round burst automatic. Just like the BR of halo 2 and the magnum of CE, the magnum in halo 5 has considerable power because it’s meant to be a “utility” weapon of sorts. It’s in the name of balancing. If the gun didn’t have an upside, then why would anyone use it? Have you EVER used the magnum in halo 2 and 3 (when it functioned basically the way you say it should) for any reason other than it was a backup? All the weapons in halo should be balanced to make it viable while still keeping it canon. Keep in mind though that a skilled AR user can totally beat out a magnum in close range.

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> > If you’ve ever played with the pistol as a weapon of choice on H5, it’s the reason you play using the pistol over the AR or any map weapon that’s doesn’t have a nave point. The pistol is Over Powered.
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> Look, I can understand your point about the magnum, but here’s the thing dude, the magnum fires .50 caliber rounds and it’s single shot. All single shot small projectile weapons in halo are precision weapons with the exception of the BR (except for the fact it shoots 9.5mm cartridges) which is a 3 round burst automatic. Just like the BR of halo 2 and the magnum of CE, the magnum in halo 5 has considerable power because it’s meant to be a “utility” weapon of sorts. It’s in the name of balancing. If the gun didn’t have an upside, then why would anyone use it? Have you EVER used the magnum in halo 2 and 3 (when it functioned basically the way you say it should) for any reason other than it was a backup? All the weapons in halo should be balanced to make it viable while still keeping it canon. Keep in mind though that a skilled AR user can totally beat out a magnum in close range.

It’s a hip weapon for a reason if a soldier ever used it in any combat, they would get slaughtered. It should always function as a backup weapon not a primary. The military carries around service pistols which are 9mm and significantly less power than their recon weapons. Even taking a spartan charge from an opponent and countering with a melee and then using the AR should beat a pistol because of the slow recovery from the charge and power from the AR. An AR, in reality, would be that of an AR-15/47 and think of how scaled down the power is in H5.
The Halo 1 pistol should not be the basis of all of the future Halos, hence why Bungie(not 343) changed it to the BR and then to DMR in their last Reach, 343 only intensified the DMR to be Over Powered in H4. With the avoidance of using the pistol, I mostly use the AR combo with the BR/DMR/Carbine/LR when I can. I am skilled with the AR, and the DMR when I can get to it. I have recently grown a liking for the SMG in H5 because it can beat out the pistol more in my experience.

I feel you got the wrong idea here. It’s got nothing to do with their power or lack of power, but how they behave. Precision weapons are accurate, single shot ranged weapons that (Until Halo 5 changed this) are the ones that get headshot multipliers and whatever. Automatics are - shock and surprise - fully automatic and you hold down a trigger to spray a ton of bullets over a short period of time and over a shorter distance than precision weapons.

The Rain of Oblivion kind of bends that though, being a Carbine that’s fully automatic.

You’re saying things are based on the real world except you’re not factoring in that it’s 500 years in the future with more advanced weaponry and these aren’t normal soldiers using the weapons.

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Plus factoring in “Videogame mechanics/balancing”.

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> > > > Unless he made an intentionally nonsensical post just for the laughs, in which case there is no meaning behind it and we could probably safely have the thread closed.
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> > > > Honestly I can’t see this thread going anywhere productive so that’s probably the best course of action. If he wants to clarify and start a genuine conversation, he can try again later or edit this one before it gets closed down.
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> > > The problem with being an illogical person in a logical world…
> > > If you’ve ever played with the pistol as a weapon of choice on H5, it’s the reason you play using the pistol over the AR or any map weapon that’s doesn’t have a nave point. The pistol is Over Powered.
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> > Look, I can understand your point about the magnum, but here’s the thing dude, the magnum fires .50 caliber rounds and it’s single shot. All single shot small projectile weapons in halo are precision weapons with the exception of the BR (except for the fact it shoots 9.5mm cartridges) which is a 3 round burst automatic. Just like the BR of halo 2 and the magnum of CE, the magnum in halo 5 has considerable power because it’s meant to be a “utility” weapon of sorts. It’s in the name of balancing. If the gun didn’t have an upside, then why would anyone use it? Have you EVER used the magnum in halo 2 and 3 (when it functioned basically the way you say it should) for any reason other than it was a backup? All the weapons in halo should be balanced to make it viable while still keeping it canon. Keep in mind though that a skilled AR user can totally beat out a magnum in close range.
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> It’s a hip weapon for a reason if a soldier ever used it in any combat, they would get slaughtered. It should always function as a backup weapon not a primary. The military carries around service pistols which are 9mm and significantly less power than their recon weapons. Even taking a spartan charge from an opponent and countering with a melee and then using the AR should beat a pistol because of the slow recovery from the charge and power from the AR. An AR, in reality, would be that of an AR-15/47 and think of how scaled down the power is in H5.
> The Halo 1 pistol should not be the basis of all of the future Halos, hence why Bungie(not 343) changed it to the BR and then to DMR in their last Reach, 343 only intensified the DMR to be Over Powered in H4. With the avoidance of using the pistol, I mostly use the AR combo with the BR/DMR/Carbine/LR when I can. I am skilled with the AR, and the DMR when I can get to it. I have recently grown a liking for the SMG in H5 because it can beat out the pistol more in my experience.

Do I have to spell it out for you? F I F T Y C A L I B E R
The magnum is literally the halo equivalent to the deagle .50, and that’ll blow a hole in your chest the size of a tennis ball. Plus, the round is semi-armor piercing. Rounds with that class are referring to personnel with armor, such as marines, ODSTs, and Spartans, as well as armed insurrectionists, literally any covenant. The assault rifle shoots 7.62 NATO FMJ-AP. Yes the material the projectile is made from is better suited for piercing spartan armor, but that round is nearly half the size of the magnum’s m225. It has a significantly better chance of penetration considering that the material of the projectile is “good enough” and it’s nearly twice the size. Plus, since it’s not fully jacketed, it will actually fragment up inside the target (to an extent) unlike those AP rounds.

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> > > > > Unless he made an intentionally nonsensical post just for the laughs, in which case there is no meaning behind it and we could probably safely have the thread closed.
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> > > > > Honestly I can’t see this thread going anywhere productive so that’s probably the best course of action. If he wants to clarify and start a genuine conversation, he can try again later or edit this one before it gets closed down.
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> > > > The problem with being an illogical person in a logical world…
> > > > If you’ve ever played with the pistol as a weapon of choice on H5, it’s the reason you play using the pistol over the AR or any map weapon that’s doesn’t have a nave point. The pistol is Over Powered.
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> > > Look, I can understand your point about the magnum, but here’s the thing dude, the magnum fires .50 caliber rounds and it’s single shot. All single shot small projectile weapons in halo are precision weapons with the exception of the BR (except for the fact it shoots 9.5mm cartridges) which is a 3 round burst automatic. Just like the BR of halo 2 and the magnum of CE, the magnum in halo 5 has considerable power because it’s meant to be a “utility” weapon of sorts. It’s in the name of balancing. If the gun didn’t have an upside, then why would anyone use it? Have you EVER used the magnum in halo 2 and 3 (when it functioned basically the way you say it should) for any reason other than it was a backup? All the weapons in halo should be balanced to make it viable while still keeping it canon. Keep in mind though that a skilled AR user can totally beat out a magnum in close range.
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> > The Halo 1 pistol should not be the basis of all of the future Halos, hence why Bungie(not 343) changed it to the BR and then to DMR in their last Reach, 343 only intensified the DMR to be Over Powered in H4. With the avoidance of using the pistol, I mostly use the AR combo with the BR/DMR/Carbine/LR when I can. I am skilled with the AR, and the DMR when I can get to it. I have recently grown a liking for the SMG in H5 because it can beat out the pistol more in my experience.
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> The magnum is literally the halo equivalent to the deagle .50, and that’ll blow a hole in your chest the size of a tennis ball. Plus, the round is semi-armor piercing. Rounds with that class are referring to personnel with armor, such as marines, ODSTs, and Spartans, as well as armed insurrectionists, literally any covenant. The assault rifle shoots 7.62 NATO FMJ-AP. Yes the material the projectile is made from is better suited for piercing spartan armor, but that round is nearly half the size of the magnum’s m225. It has a significantly better chance of penetration considering that the material of the projectile is “good enough” and it’s nearly twice the size. Plus, since it’s not fully jacketed, it will actually fragment up inside the target (to an extent) unlike those AP rounds.

Honestly, I’ve just got this sneaking feeling he made this thread to just get a chuckle out of seeing people responding to it expecting a serious discussion.

The magnum was a deadly, precise and powerful weapon in Halo CE and after being downgraded in Halo 2 was upgrade in Halo 3 and Reach.
The magnum is supposed to be a strong weapon, it’s should always have been the case and now that it is good again, we should keep it that way.

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> > > > > > > When you guys figure out what he’s talking about please let me know…
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> > > > > > Unless he made an intentionally nonsensical post just for the laughs, in which case there is no meaning behind it and we could probably safely have the thread closed.
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> > > > > > Honestly I can’t see this thread going anywhere productive so that’s probably the best course of action. If he wants to clarify and start a genuine conversation, he can try again later or edit this one before it gets closed down.
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> > > > > The problem with being an illogical person in a logical world…
> > > > > If you’ve ever played with the pistol as a weapon of choice on H5, it’s the reason you play using the pistol over the AR or any map weapon that’s doesn’t have a nave point. The pistol is Over Powered.
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> > > > > I’m talking about the “meta” in the game (Someone called it that in a message response).
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> > > > Look, I can understand your point about the magnum, but here’s the thing dude, the magnum fires .50 caliber rounds and it’s single shot. All single shot small projectile weapons in halo are precision weapons with the exception of the BR (except for the fact it shoots 9.5mm cartridges) which is a 3 round burst automatic. Just like the BR of halo 2 and the magnum of CE, the magnum in halo 5 has considerable power because it’s meant to be a “utility” weapon of sorts. It’s in the name of balancing. If the gun didn’t have an upside, then why would anyone use it? Have you EVER used the magnum in halo 2 and 3 (when it functioned basically the way you say it should) for any reason other than it was a backup? All the weapons in halo should be balanced to make it viable while still keeping it canon. Keep in mind though that a skilled AR user can totally beat out a magnum in close range.
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> > > It’s a hip weapon for a reason if a soldier ever used it in any combat, they would get slaughtered. It should always function as a backup weapon not a primary. The military carries around service pistols which are 9mm and significantly less power than their recon weapons. Even taking a spartan charge from an opponent and countering with a melee and then using the AR should beat a pistol because of the slow recovery from the charge and power from the AR. An AR, in reality, would be that of an AR-15/47 and think of how scaled down the power is in H5.
> > > The Halo 1 pistol should not be the basis of all of the future Halos, hence why Bungie(not 343) changed it to the BR and then to DMR in their last Reach, 343 only intensified the DMR to be Over Powered in H4. With the avoidance of using the pistol, I mostly use the AR combo with the BR/DMR/Carbine/LR when I can. I am skilled with the AR, and the DMR when I can get to it. I have recently grown a liking for the SMG in H5 because it can beat out the pistol more in my experience.
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> > The magnum is literally the halo equivalent to the deagle .50, and that’ll blow a hole in your chest the size of a tennis ball. Plus, the round is semi-armor piercing. Rounds with that class are referring to personnel with armor, such as marines, ODSTs, and Spartans, as well as armed insurrectionists, literally any covenant. The assault rifle shoots 7.62 NATO FMJ-AP. Yes the material the projectile is made from is better suited for piercing spartan armor, but that round is nearly half the size of the magnum’s m225. It has a significantly better chance of penetration considering that the material of the projectile is “good enough” and it’s nearly twice the size. Plus, since it’s not fully jacketed, it will actually fragment up inside the target (to an extent) unlike those AP rounds.
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> Honestly, I’ve just got this sneaking feeling he made this thread to just get a chuckle out of seeing people responding to it expecting a serious discussion.

I SINCERELY hate to say it but you’re right, there is no way in -yoink- this guy ain’t trolling.

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Roger.

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Ah, I understand now. Who said the magnum is more accurate than a DMR? Play BTB or Warzone and try hitting an opponent from across the map with a magnum. Then try it again with a DMR.

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> If you’ve ever played with the pistol as a weapon of choice on H5, it’s the reason you play using the pistol over the AR or any map weapon that’s doesn’t have a nave point. The pistol is Over Powered.
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> I’m talking about the “meta” in the game (Someone called it that in a message response).

I wouldn’t call the magnum overpowered because the boltshot and DMR can kill in the same amount of time. Not to mention the boltshot aims for you.

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> Plus factoring in “Videogame mechanics/balancing”.

I imagine that classifications would not change over that time and the AR would not become less powerful than it is now if it were 500 years in the future.

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Video game mechanics are based on real-world environments, how else would they collected and used?

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> The magnum was a deadly, precise and powerful weapon in Halo CE and after being downgraded in Halo 2 was upgrade in Halo 3 and Reach.
> The magnum is supposed to be a strong weapon, it’s should always have been the case and now that it is good again, we should keep it that way.

A hip weapon should always be a sidearm used as backup.

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> > Considering that the Halo Universe is based on the balancing of weapons and is based on the real world (such as gravity) I’d say a short-barreled weapon is less accurate than a ranged DMR at a distance. I’m not saying that the pistol has the same amount of damage as the Halo CE, it’s just following that of the Halo CE pistol as the primary weapon because it’s Over Powered. I said like the Halo 1 pistol. The Halo 1 magnum has damage but has the pitfall of being less accurate.
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> Ah, I understand now. Who said the magnum is more accurate than a DMR? Play BTB or Warzone and try hitting an opponent from across the map with a magnum. Then try it again with a DMR.
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> > If you’ve ever played with the pistol as a weapon of choice on H5, it’s the reason you play using the pistol over the AR or any map weapon that’s doesn’t have a nave point. The pistol is Over Powered.
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> > I’m talking about the “meta” in the game (Someone called it that in a message response).
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> I wouldn’t call the magnum overpowered because the boltshot and DMR can kill in the same amount of time. Not to mention the boltshot aims for you.

The game is saying the magnum is as accurate as the DMR because of its precision classification. I was basing it off of across the map kills in 4v4 matches. Look at Truth in the initial pistol battles on H5.
I wasn’t considering the bolt shot because it’s burst fire, aim assists to a distance (without adding accuracy).

People use the H5 pistol in matchmaking 4v4 because of the no extra skill beyond any other normal weapon to get kills.

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> > > > > Well it’s a video game, based on a fictional universe, set in the future. I think they can classify their weapons how they please. Also Halo 5 pistol does not have the power of Halo CE pistol.
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> > > > Considering that the Halo Universe is based on the balancing of weapons and is based on the real world (such as gravity) I’d say a short-barreled weapon is less accurate than a ranged DMR at a distance. I’m not saying that the pistol has the same amount of damage as the Halo CE, it’s just following that of the Halo CE pistol as the primary weapon because it’s Over Powered. I said like the Halo 1 pistol. The Halo 1 magnum has damage but has the pitfall of being less accurate.
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> > > > > > > Yeah, I like… Got nothing here. If anybody knows what the OP’s trying to say, please fill us in.
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> > > > > > When you guys figure out what he’s talking about please let me know…
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> > > > > Unless he made an intentionally nonsensical post just for the laughs, in which case there is no meaning behind it and we could probably safely have the thread closed.
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> > > > > Honestly I can’t see this thread going anywhere productive so that’s probably the best course of action. If he wants to clarify and start a genuine conversation, he can try again later or edit this one before it gets closed down.
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> > > > The problem with being an illogical person in a logical world…
> > > > If you’ve ever played with the pistol as a weapon of choice on H5, it’s the reason you play using the pistol over the AR or any map weapon that’s doesn’t have a nave point. The pistol is Over Powered.
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> > > Look, I can understand your point about the magnum, but here’s the thing dude, the magnum fires .50 caliber rounds and it’s single shot. All single shot small projectile weapons in halo are precision weapons with the exception of the BR (except for the fact it shoots 9.5mm cartridges) which is a 3 round burst automatic. Just like the BR of halo 2 and the magnum of CE, the magnum in halo 5 has considerable power because it’s meant to be a “utility” weapon of sorts. It’s in the name of balancing. If the gun didn’t have an upside, then why would anyone use it? Have you EVER used the magnum in halo 2 and 3 (when it functioned basically the way you say it should) for any reason other than it was a backup? All the weapons in halo should be balanced to make it viable while still keeping it canon. Keep in mind though that a skilled AR user can totally beat out a magnum in close range.
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> > The Halo 1 pistol should not be the basis of all of the future Halos, hence why Bungie(not 343) changed it to the BR and then to DMR in their last Reach, 343 only intensified the DMR to be Over Powered in H4. With the avoidance of using the pistol, I mostly use the AR combo with the BR/DMR/Carbine/LR when I can. I am skilled with the AR, and the DMR when I can get to it. I have recently grown a liking for the SMG in H5 because it can beat out the pistol more in my experience.
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> The magnum is literally the halo equivalent to the deagle .50, and that’ll blow a hole in your chest the size of a tennis ball. Plus, the round is semi-armor piercing. Rounds with that class are referring to personnel with armor, such as marines, ODSTs, and Spartans, as well as armed insurrectionists, literally any covenant. The assault rifle shoots 7.62 NATO FMJ-AP. Yes the material the projectile is made from is better suited for piercing spartan armor, but that round is nearly half the size of the magnum’s m225. It has a significantly better chance of penetration considering that the material of the projectile is “good enough” and it’s nearly twice the size. Plus, since it’s not fully jacketed, it will actually fragment up inside the target (to an extent) unlike those AP rounds.

You’re saying that the H5 magnum is a d eagle? Why would a spartan carry around something so strong to their own armor around with them, like in case you get killed or captured? Of course, covenant weapons are better than spartan’s but still.

EVERYONE ABOVE that thinks I’m a troll: I was linked to post this from the Support support.halowaypoint.com website to post this, so it’d be 343 trolling everyone if you think I’m trolling.

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> The magnum was a deadly, precise and powerful weapon in Halo CE and after being downgraded in Halo 2 was upgrade in Halo 3 and Reach.
> The magnum is supposed to be a strong weapon, it’s should always have been the case and now that it is good again, we should keep it that way.

Any pistol in combat should be a backup weapon in times of need. The Reach magnum was not as powerful or accurate as the H5 pistol, the H4 magnum is closer to what the power should be.