Weaponry

Does anyone here actually prefer to use the Promethean weaponry, like I know that the Suppreser is good in Warzone bat first, besides that, they seem like filler. I liked the Halo 4 Boltshot better too.

No, none of the Promethean weapons are that great.

  • The Suppressor is a Needler clone, sans Supercombine, which means that it’s useless as a weapon. I’d rather use a Needler than a Suppressor. - The Boltshot had all uniqueness stripped out of it when it was made a headshot-capable Needler clone. Again, I’d rather use the Needler than the Boltshot, because the Needler does a Supercombine that will for sure kill my opponent and may do splash damage to his friends. - Binary Rifle is a worse version of the Sniper and Beam. It lets everyone know where you are and you need to have a deadlock on your opponent to kill him, whereas the Sniper and Beam can do the same with one shot. - Scattershot is a Shotgun clone with the ability to disintegrate enemies. That’s about it. It also has the ability to shoot around corners by bouncing, but that’s laughably ineffective. - Incineration Cannon… Where do I start with you? A charge based rocket launcher clone with more splash damage. In essence, I think it’s more akin to the Fuel Rod, but with the splash damage of the Rocket Launcher. Again, I’d rather use one or the other. There was never a need for a middle ground between the two. - Lightrifle is a DMR clone with more range and more damage with a slower fire rate. I don’t know about this one. It has functionality, sure, but its fire rate is absurdly slow compared to the DMR or Carbine that using it at any range bar Long is a death sentence. In which case I’d rather take the Sniper or Beam. - That stupid cannon gun mount thing? It’s alright I guess, but I’d rather just use a gun. - As for the Sentinel Beam? It’s about as good as it used to be, I think. It doesn’t beat the infinite range nonsense of Halo 2’s Sentinel Beam, but it’s alright. In terms of design, however, it looks absolutely awful. Can’t wait to see how they butcher Sentinel design in Halo 6 to make this pointless retcon canon.So yeah. Promethean weapons suck. 343 won’t remove them circa Halo 6, so you’d best get used to them. Maybe they’ll totally rework them.

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I like using the razors edge and the incineration cannons but that is about it.

I enjoy using the suppressor for early base rushing. Trick is to use it at MEDIUM range vs AR and Storm Rifle.

They arent that bad if used right,but the Scattershot is inconsisten in terms of kill range.

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> Does anyone here actually prefer to use the Promethean weaponry, like I know that the Suppreser is good in Warzone bat first, besides that, they seem like filler. I liked the Halo 4 Boltshot better too.

When it comes to ranked which is what I usually play all the time. It’s a tier above the rest

I actually like all of them, I particularly love getting suppressor kills especially in FFA. For the most part they’re great beginners weapons, binary is an easier sniper to use than the UNSC version and beam rifle, the scattershot punishes you less if you don’t kill someone in the first shot, boltshot is a good magnum alternative if your aim isn’t perfect and the light rifle is probably the best battle rifle counter part, and of course you don’t need to aim at all to use the incineration canon.

I honestly love promethean tech overall. I cannot stand human weapons most of the time and prefer to use covenant weapons. But if none are available, I use promethean. The new bolt shot is amazing imo. If you have trouble using it, just remember that the projectiles travel like 2x as fast if you’re zoomed in. I ditch my BR for it on Risen.

The light rifle is another one of my favorites just due to the sheer power. Even if I don’t get a kill with it, shooting a spartan once or twice pretty much guarantees someone else will because it does so much damage. I feel like it is the easiest weapon to get a perfect kill with. It’s also great at downing aircraft and it seems like it does a huge amount of damage to them.

Then there’s the incineration cannon which is the best launcher between the M57s, spankrs, and fuel rod cannons imo. I love having that giant ball of light as opposed to a small projectile. I feel it increases accuracy when firing it directly at people.

Splinter grenades are so powerful. I love using them and baiting vehicles to try to splatter me. It was a big upgrade over the pulse grenade, I think.

There are some that I am not too big on. The sentinel beam just doesn’t handle well against infantry. It’s got great vehicle damage though. I miss the old binary rifle and I think everyone else does too. I think they had to balance it or something which is why it’s now basically a sentinel beam + recoil. Suppressors are okay, but I only really like the upgraded ones. I have a love hate relationship with the scattershot. It is so hard for me to hit anything with that gun. The deflection tracking is nice though.

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> - As for the Sentinel Beam? It’s about as good as it used to be, I think. It doesn’t beat the infinite range nonsense of Halo 2’s Sentinel Beam, but it’s alright. In terms of design, however, it looks absolutely awful. Can’t wait to see how they butcher Sentinel design in Halo 6 to make this pointless retcon canon.

Somewhat unrelated nitpick, but, uh, the new Sentinel Beam design isn’t a retcon. It’s called the Safeguard Sentinel Beam, which more or less suggests that there’s a class of Sentinel called the Safeguard Sentinel, similar to how we have Aggressor, Protector, and Retriever Sentinel types.

I generally stick to UNSC weapons

They have their uses, just not in ranked play. For example, I’ll snag a binary rifle in Super Fiesta if I don’t already have anything better.

I usually don’t pick up Promethean weapons unless it’s a unique circumstance or it’s the best weapon available. The H4 boltshot was good because it was an OP pocket shotgun.

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> I usually don’t pick up Promethean weapons unless it’s a unique circumstance or it’s the best weapon available. The H4 boltshot was good because it was an OP pocket shotgun.

I never considered the Boltshot OP even pre-nerf, and considered the magnum a better all-rounder. Post-nerf, I understood even less why people wanted it.

EDIT; On topic, I feel the Incineration Cannon, Splinter Grenades, and Splinter Cannon are really the only worthwhile Promie Weapons. Really makes me resent how shoved-down-the-throat they (The Prometheans) are in gameplay.

I guess we had different experiences then. I remember games where people would only use it for the entire game just running around or camping with it while using Pro Vision.

Binary is completely useless. Everybody knows where you are when you use that junk

Scattershots are pretty good, because the can bounce off objects like walls, and the rarer the variant, the better the scattershot.

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> Scattershots are pretty good, because the can bounce off objects like walls, and the rarer the variant, the better the scattershot.

Hideously ineffective though.

Arena only has the one variant, anyway.

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> No, none of the Promethean weapons are that great.
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> - The Suppressor is a Needler clone, sans Supercombine, which means that it’s useless as a weapon. I’d rather use a Needler than a Suppressor. - The Boltshot had all uniqueness stripped out of it when it was made a headshot-capable Needler clone. Again, I’d rather use the Needler than the Boltshot, because the Needler does a Supercombine that will for sure kill my opponent and may do splash damage to his friends. - Binary Rifle is a worse version of the Sniper and Beam. It lets everyone know where you are and you need to have a deadlock on your opponent to kill him, whereas the Sniper and Beam can do the same with one shot. - Scattershot is a Shotgun clone with the ability to disintegrate enemies. That’s about it. It also has the ability to shoot around corners by bouncing, but that’s laughably ineffective. - Incineration Cannon… Where do I start with you? A charge based rocket launcher clone with more splash damage. In essence, I think it’s more akin to the Fuel Rod, but with the splash damage of the Rocket Launcher. Again, I’d rather use one or the other. There was never a need for a middle ground between the two. - Lightrifle is a DMR clone with more range and more damage with a slower fire rate. I don’t know about this one. It has functionality, sure, but its fire rate is absurdly slow compared to the DMR or Carbine that using it at any range bar Long is a death sentence. In which case I’d rather take the Sniper or Beam. - That stupid cannon gun mount thing? It’s alright I guess, but I’d rather just use a gun. - As for the Sentinel Beam? It’s about as good as it used to be, I think. It doesn’t beat the infinite range nonsense of Halo 2’s Sentinel Beam, but it’s alright. In terms of design, however, it looks absolutely awful. Can’t wait to see how they butcher Sentinel design in Halo 6 to make this pointless retcon canon.So yeah. Promethean weapons suck. 343 won’t remove them circa Halo 6, so you’d best get used to them. Maybe they’ll totally rework them.
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A lot of these weapons seem to function better and/or very differently than you’re portraying and are not mere copies.
-The boltshot doesn’t get headshots. It’s a fantastic midrange weapon when you smart link because the projectile speed increases substantially.
-The suppressor is more than just a copy of the needler w/o supercombine. It is much harder to thrust evade away from a suppressor because of the increased projectile speed and it takes far more shots to kill (It’s like 18 as opposed to 7).
-The most effective way to use the scattershot is through ricochets unless you’re point blank and to smart link to make the spread tighter.
-The incineration cannon is a monster. The charge shot has proxy fuses and that effectively makes the projectile the size of a boulder. It also travels 50% faster than the M57 rocket launcher.
-The splinter cannon is very potent vs vehicles and it comes with enough ammo to get the job done a few times over.

I feel like your post didn’t do these weapons justice.

The he scattershot is my favorite even though it can be pretty inconsistent, and the light rifle before the weapon tuning was pretty good. Don’t think of the bolt shot as anything else than a final measure/last-ditch weapon, suppressor gets beat by most every other gun, Binary rifle requires pretty damn great accuracy, incineration cannon is a good power weapon,

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> I guess we had different experiences then. I remember games where people would only use it for the entire game just running around or camping with it while using Pro Vision.

Oh, I definitely saw both of those types of people. I just only ever considered the campers a ‘Viable’ threat. The running around guys were just… Kind of sad, actually. Like, I understood what they were trying to do, they just sucked at it. The Boltshot was a discount shotgun; And while it certainly provided what it paid for, that isn’t saying much.