Honestly don’t see the point of killing your buddy when he just got the good weapon eg. Sniper Rifle.
Had that happen to me today, and the person killed me, so I booted him, only to find a VERY offensive message come to me after.
People are too aggressive these days…
I hope people stop TK, it really isn’t good for them or the team.
I feel your pain. One reason I don’t play anymore.
I relly don’t want friendly fire turned off but since I think the game feels better with it on but it’s relly annoying when that happens. What I usually do if I don’t get to boot the person is to make shure that I for the rest of the game get the sniper and waste it shooting at the ground just to show that it’s not all about him having fun in the game 
Well with all due respect, given that you’re only a captain with a KD less than 1, I can see why he betrayed you. I honestly don’t mean any hate by that, I’m just keeping it real.
The sniper and the grenade launcher are the only power weapons which actually require any skill to use. So you don’t want lesser skilled players taking them and not using them to their fullest potential.
The case could be made that you’re the one hurting the team by not letting the better players use the skill based weapons, while you could take something which doesn’t require skill like the Sword/Hammer/Shotgun/Plasma Launcher/Rockets/Banshee/etc.
You said that their team killing isn’t good for the team, wouldn’t you also agree that having a newer player who doesn’t fully understand the game, yet grabs the most skill based weapon…also isn’t good for the team? why does the betrayer have to play “For the good of the team” when you don’t?
Also I’ve even seen inheritors barely go positive with the sniper. If somebody betrays you and the team loses 1 point, but they wind up getting 5 more kills with the sniper than you would have, then in actuality them killing you was NOT bad for the team, it BENEFITED the team.
Now I want to make something perfectly clear, there is a difference between bad and new. I’ve seen inheritors with tons of gameplay, who are FLAT OUT BAD, in fact I’d say a good 95% of the inheritors you see infesting BTB can’t DMR worth a damn. In all my experience facing inheritor teams in BTB, ONLY 2 of them were actually good.
You on the other hand are simply new (Captain Rank), and inexperienced. If you really want to play for the team, like you state the betrayer should be doing, you should get more practice and experience before going after the skill based weapons please.
If you want I’d be more than happy to help you, I’ve trained a lot of newer players and helped them get past the learning curve. The Halo series has a lot of things which aren’t easily apparent to newer players like yourself. So if you honestly want to help your team, I can show you how. If you don’t honestly want to help your team, then don’t expect others to follow a standard that you won’t.
Either way best of luck to you but betrayers will always be a part of this franchise until 343 actually fixes the damn betrayal system.
> Well with all due respect, given that you’re only a captain with a KD less than 1, I can see why he betrayed you. I honestly don’t mean any hate by that, I’m just keeping it real.
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> The sniper and the grenade launcher are the only power weapons which actually require any skill to use. So you don’t want lesser skilled players taking them and not using them to their fullest potential.
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> The case could be made that you’re the one hurting the team by not letting the better players use the skill based weapons, while you could take something which doesn’t require skill like the Sword/Hammer/Shotgun/Plasma Launcher/Rockets/Banshee/etc.
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> You said that their team killing isn’t good for the team, wouldn’t you also agree that having a newer player who doesn’t fully understand the game, yet grabs the most skill based weapon…also isn’t good for the team? why does the betrayer have to play “For the good of the team” when you don’t?
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> Also I’ve even seen inheritors barely go positive with the sniper. If somebody betrays you and the team loses 1 point, but they wind up getting 5 more kills with the sniper than you would have, then in actuality them killing you was NOT bad for the team, it BENEFITED the team.
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> Now I want to make something perfectly clear, there is a difference between bad and new. I’ve seen inheritors with tons of gameplay, who are FLAT OUT BAD, in fact I’d say a good 95% of the inheritors you see infesting BTB can’t DMR worth a damn. In all my experience facing inheritor teams in BTB, ONLY 2 of them were actually good.
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> You on the other hand are simply new (Captain Rank), and inexperienced. If you really want to play for the team, like you state the betrayer should be doing, you should get more practice and experience before going after the skill based weapons please.
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> If you want I’d be more than happy to help you, I’ve trained a lot of newer players and helped them get past the learning curve. The Halo series has a lot of things which aren’t easily apparent to newer players like yourself. So if you honestly want to help your team, I can show you how. If you don’t honestly want to help your team, then don’t expect others to follow a standard that you won’t.
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> Either way best of luck to you but betrayers will always be a part of this franchise until 343 actually fixes the damn betrayal system.
The ONLY actual way to get more skilled with a weapon is to use it in a dynamic enviroment IE MM, according to your logic, there will never be any new players that are good with said weapon.
Its not the game. Its the people.
It seems like game designers have to waste like half their efforts figuring out ways to stop people being -Yoinks!- to each other these days.
> Well with all due respect, given that you’re only a captain with a KD less than 1, I can see why he betrayed you.
You know kill death doesn’t actually mean anything, so saying someone isn’t very good because they are under a solid 1 is completely meaningless. Some of the best players I have faced had a negaive k/d and were between warrent officer and major. Rank, kill/death = completely worthless. Because I play for the objective in grifball and crazy king I usually end up going negative, but that doesn’t mean I’m not as skilled as the next player.
Randy is very selfish. Stop chilling with Randy.
Alot of BWO Arbiter’s points are valid, minus the stat ones.
I have this discussion with my friends all the time. If said person is better with a certain weapon by all means let them have it. Some days i’m hot with my sniper so I ask for it in almost every match. When i’m not hot, I pass it off.
As for increasing skill with a sniper, I did that by sniping in FF. If you can hit an Elite in the head that is strafing, evading, and juking all over the damn place, hitting someone in MM is easy. Most people just use the sniper for an instant shield pop, if they can’t hit the head. Shield pop, weapon switch, headshot. Wash rinse repeat.
> Alot of BWO Arbiter’s points are valid, minus the stat ones.
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> I have this discussion with my friends all the time. If said person is better with a certain weapon by all means let them have it. Some days i’m hot with my sniper so I ask for it in almost every match. When i’m not hot, I pass it off.
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> As for increasing skill with a sniper, I did that by sniping in FF. If you can hit an Elite in the head that is strafing, evading, and juking all over the damn place, hitting someone in MM is easy. Most people just use the sniper for an instant shield pop, if they can’t hit the head. Shield pop, weapon switch, headshot. Wash rinse repeat.
^This.
Also, Team Snipers. I guarantee nobody will betray you for your weapon.
> Alot of BWO Arbiter’s points are valid, minus the stat ones.
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> I have this discussion with my friends all the time. If said person is better with a certain weapon by all means let them have it. Some days i’m hot with my sniper so I ask for it in almost every match. When i’m not hot, I pass it off.
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> As for increasing skill with a sniper, I did that by sniping in FF. If you can hit an Elite in the head that is strafing, evading, and juking all over the damn place, hitting someone in MM is easy. Most people just use the sniper for an instant shield pop, if they can’t hit the head. Shield pop, weapon switch, headshot. Wash rinse repeat.
Thats what I did. Even gruntpocolypse will work (though i wouldn’t recommend it if you want to get incredibly better).
FF is an easy way to boost skill without the Tkers running about.
Team Snipers works quite well as well, though its not quite the same feel and you don’t play it as safe, because you know for a fact you will respawn with said weapon.
Team killing? I let them kill me and then when the boot option comes up i boot their -Yoink- out of the game.
If it dont then i set them up for failure by making the other team know where they are.
Then after the game is over i report them in the way i do and in the end they get banned for not playing the game right.
Yes i’m an -Yoink- and i don’t give a -Yoink- what people say. If i grab a weapon and you betray me for it you will in the end deserve the coming hell of problems you will get by being that idiot player.
I’m in support of the person who wrote the essay above…If someone’s gonna waste our team’s sniper ammo, then I’m gonna take it off them, and get as many kills as it has bullets…
The grenade launcher seems to be the only weapon that dislikes me…Everyone else is pro, yet my 1.5+ k/d is not a good reflection of my skill with that weapon -_-
Weapon rushing…Of course, the person who grabs rockets is gonna get kills, I’m not gonna let my team die four times to be “respectable” because that’s stupid! I’m gonna win the game with lots of kills, and few deaths…Call me a weapon hoarder, just because you can’t play if you don’t have them…I can, check my DMR/Magnum K.D =)
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> I relly don’t want friendly fire turned off but since I think the game feels better with it on but it’s relly annoying when that happens. What I usually do if I don’t get to boot the person is to make shure that I for the rest of the game get the sniper and waste it shooting at the ground just to show that it’s not all about him having fun in the game
This is why people betray you, moron.
I really stopped going for power weapons. If my teammates want to take them and be bad with them then fine. I’ll pick them up when no one is around. I can do quite fine without them when I need to rely on whatever my starting weapon is. I don’t like getting betrayed by morons because I knew when a weapon would spawn or they think they are better and clearly are not lol.
> The ONLY actual way to get more skilled with a weapon is to use it in a dynamic enviroment IE MM, according to your logic, there will never be any new players that are good with said weapon.
True the only way to become better with the sniper is to practice. That being said a newer lesser skilled player should prioritize being better IN GENERAL, learning the maps, power weapon timers, learning how to DMR, etc…BEFORE trying to use the most skill based weapon in the game.
Learn how to hold your own with a DMR FIRST, then practice sniping when you can consistently aim, know the maps, know the common enemy sniper positions, etc.
Learn to walk better you try running. That’s all.
> > The ONLY actual way to get more skilled with a weapon is to use it in a dynamic enviroment IE MM, according to your logic, there will never be any new players that are good with said weapon.
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> True the only way to become better with the sniper is to practice. That being said a newer lesser skilled player should prioritize being better IN GENERAL, learning the maps, power weapon timers, learning how to DMR, etc…BEFORE trying to use the most skill based weapon in the game.
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> Learn how to hold your own with a DMR FIRST, then practice sniping when you can consistently aim, know the maps, know the common enemy sniper positions, etc.
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> Learn to walk better you try running. That’s all.
DMR and Sniper are actually two different types of weapons, Fire rate, Damage and bloom are all entirely seperate things, however i do understand practice with the DMR.
I guess i am the perfect example on why i believe your statement is half-true, I am complete -Yoink- with the DMR, i get next to no kills with it, But, give me a sniper and ill do some damage(Generally 10 kills out of 12 rounds)
I do understand where you’re coming from and i agree.
The majority of people that TK for power weapons are (from my experience) kids that normally play a lot of CoD… so, that said I blame CoD and the 12 year olds that play it.
A good solution I find for TKers is to try and provoke them to kill you.
> Well with all due respect, given that you’re only a <mark>captain with a KD less than 1, I can see why he betrayed you.</mark> I honestly don’t mean any hate by that, I’m just keeping it real.
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> The sniper and the <mark>grenade launcher are the only power weapons which actually require any skill to use. So you don’t want lesser skilled players taking them and not using them to their fullest potential</mark>.
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> The case could be made that <mark>you’re the one hurting the team by not letting the better players use the skill based weapons</mark>, while you could take something which doesn’t require skill like the Sword/Hammer/Shotgun/Plasma Launcher/Rockets/Banshee/etc.
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> You said that their team killing isn’t good for the team, wouldn’t you also agree that having a newer player who doesn’t fully understand the game, yet grabs the most skill based weapon…also isn’t good for the team? <mark>why does the betrayer have to play “For the good of the team” when you don’t?</mark>
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> Also I’ve even seen inheritors barely go positive with the sniper. If somebody betrays you and the team loses 1 point, but they wind up getting 5 more kills with the sniper than you would have, <mark>then in actuality them killing you was NOT bad for the team, it BENEFITED the team.</mark>
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> Now I want to make something perfectly clear, there is a difference between bad and new. I’ve seen inheritors with tons of gameplay, who are FLAT OUT BAD, in fact I’d say a good 95% of the inheritors you see infesting BTB can’t DMR worth a damn. In all my experience facing inheritor teams in BTB, ONLY 2 of them were actually good.
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> <mark>You on the other hand are simply new (Captain Rank), and inexperienced</mark>. If you really want to play for the team, like you state the betrayer should be doing, you should get more practice and experience before going after the skill based weapons please.
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> If you want I’d be more than happy to help you, I’ve trained a lot of newer players and helped them get past the learning curve. The Halo series has a lot of things which aren’t easily apparent to newer players like yourself. So if you honestly want to help your team, I can show you how. If you don’t honestly want to help your team, then don’t expect others to follow a standard that you won’t.
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> Either way best of luck to you but betrayers will always be a part of this franchise until 343 actually fixes the damn betrayal system.
The bottom line is you’re trying to rationalize selfish, careless attitudes. Only immature children have these mindsets. Most people play video games to have fun, not to compete. I can apply that same logic to a player who has a BPR of 100 and a player who has a BPR of 80. While both decent players; but where does it stop?
Almost everyone’s complaints in this game could be fixed with a better matchmaking system. We should be pushing for that, not making excuses.
I love to get the sniper first in hemorrage BTB, but people are total YOINKS and will team kill…or worst…bother the hell out of you without killing you…just a shot at your body every couple of seconds to let you know they are there.
Seriously…I should have the sniper rifle…I get a decent ratio 20+ kills with 2-4 deaths is okay right? One time I got a perfection with 15 kills and 0 deaths.