We want more info on "armor coating".

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> New info: the stupid Monarch coating is 5 -Yoinking!- dollars. The Campaign might end up being awesome, but the MP is surelly not going to be good, at least in the customization side

Well i completely regret saying this now

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> > Ok yes, I get the point everyone has made about their own color choices, and what not, so maybe I’m in the minority here - but I always wanted something more consistent for my Spartan. Something, that like the Reach armors and the new Infinite reveals, felt more like what a Spartan would wear.
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> > Add in the fact that we’re not getting forced into the standard red v blue color scheme, and instead get an outline, I like the aesthetic design that goes into these coatings.
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> > Now if they give us a ton of them, and keep churning them out, I’ll be stoked. I’ll hold my full judgement for how they release, but that red arm/grey body one literally looks better than anything I ever did with custom colors. Overall, I’m actually excited to get these.
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> Once again you are making the mistake of looking at what we had vs what we should have had. The primary and secondary color options were outdated, but that doesn’t mean that armor coatings are better. The logical evolution of Halo’s customization means that we should have been able to customize our colors per piece of armor. This is what we should have had: a color wheel with different shades for every single armor piece. This kind of system is easy to do and gives us much more freedom than the armor coating. system.
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> ‘‘Now if they give us a ton of them’’ that’s exactly the problem, there will be too many color combinations which means that unlocking everything will be an absolute grind. The more armor coatings there are, the more we have to grind, the more we grind, the more incentive we have to pay for them. That’s what they did in Halo 5, they gave us thousands of duplicates and ugly pieces to increase the grind in order to push us to buy card packs.
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> 343 just took away our freedom to chose our own colors for the purpose of monetization. I don’t understand how anyone could support this. But hey if you want to spend 5$ on a paywalled armor coating go ahead, its you money.

People can’t live with only love an fresh water. With multiplayer getting free to play they have to find something to get money. Yet the monetization system they came up with is the less predatory of the game market. Yes I would have proffered to pay for the game and have to unlock everything through gameplay. But those times are gone. F2P will attract many player for the best (and maybe the worst) but as long as 343i stay true to Halo identity it’s fine.

If we go on the coating path, the best way it get’s implemented is we get a default coating that let you customize primary and secondary base color just as before, and then getting more worked on (like the camo coating) through gameplay and microtransaction.

I would also want clarification on where our customization is headed with color choice. I don’t want another generic “There are thousands of combinations and having coatings gives you 7 layers of style” Yes or no 343? My experience on this forum so far has been if its controversial enough, the thread just gets locked and your mnessage gets deleted.

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> My experience on this forum so far has been if its controversial enough, the thread just gets locked and your mnessage gets deleted.

Really? The only threads I see locked are ones that are duplicates of threads / topics that already exist. Granted these tend to be the more controversial topics… but still, the mods here do a great job of trying to keep things organised.

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> > > Unpopular Opinion - I really like the coatings.
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> > > Ok yes, I get the point everyone has made about their own color choices, and what not, so maybe I’m in the minority here - but I always wanted something more consistent for my Spartan. Something, that like the Reach armors and the new Infinite reveals, felt more like what a Spartan would wear.
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> > > Add in the fact that we’re not getting forced into the standard red v blue color scheme, and instead get an outline, I like the aesthetic design that goes into these coatings.
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> > > Now if they give us a ton of them, and keep churning them out, I’ll be stoked. I’ll hold my full judgement for how they release, but that red arm/grey body one literally looks better than anything I ever did with custom colors. Overall, I’m actually excited to get these.
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> > Once again you are making the mistake of looking at what we had vs what we should have had. The primary and secondary color options were outdated, but that doesn’t mean that armor coatings are better. The logical evolution of Halo’s customization means that we should have been able to customize our colors per piece of armor. This is what we should have had: a color wheel with different shades for every single armor piece. This kind of system is easy to do and gives us much more freedom than the armor coating. system.
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> > ‘‘Now if they give us a ton of them’’ that’s exactly the problem, there will be too many color combinations which means that unlocking everything will be an absolute grind. The more armor coatings there are, the more we have to grind, the more we grind, the more incentive we have to pay for them. That’s what they did in Halo 5, they gave us thousands of duplicates and ugly pieces to increase the grind in order to push us to buy card packs.
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> > 343 just took away our freedom to chose our own colors for the purpose of monetization. I don’t understand how anyone could support this. But hey if you want to spend 5$ on a paywalled armor coating go ahead, its you money.
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> People can’t live with only love an fresh water. With multiplayer getting free to play they have to find something to get money. Yet the monetization system they came up with is the less predatory of the game market. Yes I would have proffered to pay for the game and have to unlock everything through gameplay. But those times are gone. F2P will attract many player for the best (and maybe the worst) but as long as 343i stay true to Halo identity it’s fine.
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> If we go on the coating path, the best way it get’s implemented is we get a default coating that let you customize primary and secondary base color just as before, and then getting more worked on (like the camo coating) through gameplay and microtransaction.

I keep hearing the same arguments over and over: microtransactions are necessary, games can’t make enough profit without them, its inevitable. The first two claims are false, the third one is only true if you allow it to happen. The games that profit the most from microtransactions are sports games and they cost less and less every year since they’re basically duplicates. It is true that Infinite was very expensive to make, however, just by selling a few million copies, Microsoft could easily make a profit. A franchise like Halo could easily sell 10 million copies, which would make it one of the most profitable games of the year. Microtransactions are not necessary, they’re just a model to minimize effort and maximize profit. The times of MTX free games are gone? I’m pretty sure the best selling game last year was Cyberpunk, and that game didn’t have an ounce of monetization.

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> > > Wrong about an unpopular opinion. Most of us think the coatings are good. Some of us don’t like the colours and that’s the problem. Removing our option to use our own colours is the issue.
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> > ‘‘Removing our option to use our own colors is the issue’’. That’s exactly what armor coatings are; the color is baked into the armor piece. If you don’t like the fact that you can’t chose your own color, then you don’t like armor coatings… welcome to the club of the majority. That’s why armor coatings are very unpopular, because it turns out that most of us want to be able to put whatever color we want on whatever piece of armor without having to pay.
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> I have no issues with 343i designing coatings, I’m annoyed they’re replacing our colour system though. That’s what I don’t like. I want more info, if we can unlock them I’ll probably be ok with it. If I have to buy or grind for colours I’m out, thats a step to far imo.

You either have a coating system or a color customization one. You can’t get both. Why would 343 design coatings if we can customize our colors ourselves? You will have to grind for colors, armor pieces, emblems, etc. I can guarantee you that. That’s how they make their money. My guess is that they’ll probably sell armor pieces in bundles to force you to pay more money for armors you don’t want in order to get the one you desire. Or they’ll just set high prices. Either way I’m not too optimistic about microtransactions and I find the community naive.

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> I would also want clarification on where our customization is headed with color choice. I don’t want another generic “There are thousands of combinations and having coatings gives you 7 layers of style” Yes or no 343? My experience on this forum so far has been if its controversial enough, the thread just gets locked and your mnessage gets deleted.

You probably won’t get an answer until launch.

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> Well i completely regret saying this now

Why? Nothing has changed.

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> Why? Nothing has changed.

Don’t be a negative nancy.

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> > > ‘‘Removing our option to use our own colors is the issue’’. That’s exactly what armor coatings are; the color is baked into the armor piece. If you don’t like the fact that you can’t chose your own color, then you don’t like armor coatings… welcome to the club of the majority. That’s why armor coatings are very unpopular, because it turns out that most of us want to be able to put whatever color we want on whatever piece of armor without having to pay.
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> > I have no issues with 343i designing coatings, I’m annoyed they’re replacing our colour system though. That’s what I don’t like. I want more info, if we can unlock them I’ll probably be ok with it. If I have to buy or grind for colours I’m out, thats a step to far imo.
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> You either have a coating system or a color customization one. You can’t get both. Why would 343 design coatings if we can customize our colors ourselves? You will have to grind for colors, armor pieces, emblems, etc. I can guarantee you that. That’s how they make their money. My guess is that they’ll probably sell armor pieces in bundles to force you to pay more money for armors you don’t want in order to get the one you desire. Or they’ll just set high prices. Either way I’m not too optimistic about microtransactions and I find the community naive.

I imagine people would choose a coating over color choices if a player just wants a quick selection, if a player likes a specific color layout more than the default provided by the two-color system, or, most importantly, if a coating has creativity behind it. I imagine the camo, red arm, and Noble colors will be very popular.

The problem is that they’re not capitalizing on that creativity. We’re not getting hot rod or pizza themed coatings with unique metal materials or glowy bits. We’re getting single tones or two-tones, what we’ve had for years but without being able to choose the colors.

There’s definitely room for both or other ways to fund a free-to-play formula… But instead, bad decisions were made.

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> > > ‘‘Removing our option to use our own colors is the issue’’. That’s exactly what armor coatings are; the color is baked into the armor piece. If you don’t like the fact that you can’t chose your own color, then you don’t like armor coatings… welcome to the club of the majority. That’s why armor coatings are very unpopular, because it turns out that most of us want to be able to put whatever color we want on whatever piece of armor without having to pay.
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> > I have no issues with 343i designing coatings, I’m annoyed they’re replacing our colour system though. That’s what I don’t like. I want more info, if we can unlock them I’ll probably be ok with it. If I have to buy or grind for colours I’m out, thats a step to far imo.
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> You either have a coating system or a color customization one. You can’t get both. Why would 343 design coatings if we can customize our colors ourselves? You will have to grind for colors, armor pieces, emblems, etc.

I know. But I don’t see why we cannot have the ability to colour them. I won’t be grinding for colours, if there’s not a decent amount of coatings with the game day one I’m out. I will not play and grind for colours.

a very good addition to the coating system would be an armopr decal system, with custom selectable decal color. This would recreate the classic secondary color choice, while creating new possibilities or monetization: a classic “color stripe on helmet, around the biceps and on the thigh” decal is unlocked at the start already, with which you can now apply a custom colored set of stripes to your suit. other decal sets like the heretic, didacts hand, unsc or insurectionist symbol could be part of the battlepass.
Such a system would be a win-win for classic customization and f2p monetization.

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> > > > ‘‘Removing our option to use our own colors is the issue’’. That’s exactly what armor coatings are; the color is baked into the armor piece. If you don’t like the fact that you can’t chose your own color, then you don’t like armor coatings… welcome to the club of the majority. That’s why armor coatings are very unpopular, because it turns out that most of us want to be able to put whatever color we want on whatever piece of armor without having to pay.
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> > > I have no issues with 343i designing coatings, I’m annoyed they’re replacing our colour system though. That’s what I don’t like. I want more info, if we can unlock them I’ll probably be ok with it. If I have to buy or grind for colours I’m out, thats a step to far imo.
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> > You either have a coating system or a color customization one. You can’t get both. Why would 343 design coatings if we can customize our colors ourselves? You will have to grind for colors, armor pieces, emblems, etc.
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> I know. But I don’t see why we cannot have the ability to colour them. I won’t be grinding for colours, if there’s not a decent amount of coatings with the game day one I’m out. I will not play and grind for colours.

We can’t have color customizable coatings because i343 decided so.
If we had ten colors, two slots on each coat, and only ten coats, then it’d be 1000 different combinations.
By not allowing us to customize the colors ourselves, they get to create a lot of coats with minimal effort, and thus put that in their battlepasses, incentivising us to play for them.
They don’t want us to have the option to choose, because they want to sell us a fraction of the combinations.
It’s all to get money.

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> > > > > ‘‘Removing our option to use our own colors is the issue’’. That’s exactly what armor coatings are; the color is baked into the armor piece. If you don’t like the fact that you can’t chose your own color, then you don’t like armor coatings… welcome to the club of the majority. That’s why armor coatings are very unpopular, because it turns out that most of us want to be able to put whatever color we want on whatever piece of armor without having to pay.
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> > > > I have no issues with 343i designing coatings, I’m annoyed they’re replacing our colour system though. That’s what I don’t like. I want more info, if we can unlock them I’ll probably be ok with it. If I have to buy or grind for colours I’m out, thats a step to far imo.
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> > > You either have a coating system or a color customization one. You can’t get both. Why would 343 design coatings if we can customize our colors ourselves? You will have to grind for colors, armor pieces, emblems, etc.
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> > I know. But I don’t see why we cannot have the ability to colour them. I won’t be grinding for colours, if there’s not a decent amount of coatings with the game day one I’m out. I will not play and grind for colours.
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> We can’t have color customizable coatings because i343 decided so.
> If we had ten colors, two slots on each coat, and only ten coats, then it’d be 1000 different combinations.
> By not allowing us to customize the colors ourselves, they get to create a lot of coats with minimal effort, and thus put that in their battlepasses, incentivising us to play for them.
> They don’t want us to have the option to choose, because they want to sell us a fraction of the combinations.
> It’s all to get money.

I know it’s about money. I have been harping on about that since day one. There is no reason we could not have both though. It’s less appealing imo. We don’t know everything, that’s for sure. But as you mention passes… I won’t feel incentivised to pay for a pass and grind for green. A little hyperbolic but I’m sure you see my point.

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> > > > > > ‘‘Removing our option to use our own colors is the issue’’. That’s exactly what armor coatings are; the color is baked into the armor piece. If you don’t like the fact that you can’t chose your own color, then you don’t like armor coatings… welcome to the club of the majority. That’s why armor coatings are very unpopular, because it turns out that most of us want to be able to put whatever color we want on whatever piece of armor without having to pay.
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> > > > > I have no issues with 343i designing coatings, I’m annoyed they’re replacing our colour system though. That’s what I don’t like. I want more info, if we can unlock them I’ll probably be ok with it. If I have to buy or grind for colours I’m out, thats a step to far imo.
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> > > > You either have a coating system or a color customization one. You can’t get both. Why would 343 design coatings if we can customize our colors ourselves? You will have to grind for colors, armor pieces, emblems, etc.
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> > > I know. But I don’t see why we cannot have the ability to colour them. I won’t be grinding for colours, if there’s not a decent amount of coatings with the game day one I’m out. I will not play and grind for colours.
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> > We can’t have color customizable coatings because i343 decided so.
> > If we had ten colors, two slots on each coat, and only ten coats, then it’d be 1000 different combinations.
> > By not allowing us to customize the colors ourselves, they get to create a lot of coats with minimal effort, and thus put that in their battlepasses, incentivising us to play for them.
> > They don’t want us to have the option to choose, because they want to sell us a fraction of the combinations.
> > It’s all to get money.
>
> I know it’s about money. I have been harping on about that since day one. There is no reason we could not have both though. It’s less appealing imo. We don’t know everything, that’s for sure. But as you mention passes… I won’t feel incentivised to pay for a pass and grind for green. A little hyperbolic but I’m sure you see my point.

If you want a practical reason, no, there is no practical or technical reason why we can’t have both.
The only reason is money, and that’s it.
Mechwarrior Online has exactly the customization system Halo Infinite would have if i343 went to improve the customization, rather than intentionally not make it good.
MWO has, patterns to choose from for each mech, Hero mechs have unique patterns.
Each pattern has three color slots, atleast the ones I’ve encountered. Some patterns have special effects to them which change how a color behave. Hero Patterns are locked to the mech it’s tied to, so you can’t take a Piranha Cipher’s pattern and apply it to an Atlas.
Additionally, you have, I think it was five, emblem slots. With these you can apply an emblem on the mech. You can put it anywhere you want on the mech, quite a few of them are color customizable, they’re scalable, rotatable and mirrorable.

Yes I do see your point, I’m not too fuzzed about it either, grinding for stuff that is.

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> > > > > > > ‘‘Removing our option to use our own colors is the issue’’. That’s exactly what armor coatings are; the color is baked into the armor piece. If you don’t like the fact that you can’t chose your own color, then you don’t like armor coatings… welcome to the club of the majority. That’s why armor coatings are very unpopular, because it turns out that most of us want to be able to put whatever color we want on whatever piece of armor without having to pay.
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> > > > > > I have no issues with 343i designing coatings, I’m annoyed they’re replacing our colour system though. That’s what I don’t like. I want more info, if we can unlock them I’ll probably be ok with it. If I have to buy or grind for colours I’m out, thats a step to far imo.
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> > > > I know. But I don’t see why we cannot have the ability to colour them. I won’t be grinding for colours, if there’s not a decent amount of coatings with the game day one I’m out. I will not play and grind for colours.
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> > > We can’t have color customizable coatings because i343 decided so.
> > > If we had ten colors, two slots on each coat, and only ten coats, then it’d be 1000 different combinations.
> > > By not allowing us to customize the colors ourselves, they get to create a lot of coats with minimal effort, and thus put that in their battlepasses, incentivising us to play for them.
> > > They don’t want us to have the option to choose, because they want to sell us a fraction of the combinations.
> > > It’s all to get money.
> >
> > I know it’s about money. I have been harping on about that since day one. There is no reason we could not have both though. It’s less appealing imo. We don’t know everything, that’s for sure. But as you mention passes… I won’t feel incentivised to pay for a pass and grind for green. A little hyperbolic but I’m sure you see my point.
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> If you want a practical reason, no, there is no practical or technical reason why we can’t have both.
> The only reason is money, and that’s it.
> Mechwarrior Online has exactly the customization system Halo Infinite would have if i343 went to improve the customization, rather than intentionally not make it good.
> MWO has, patterns to choose from for each mech, Hero mechs have unique patterns.
> Each pattern have three color slots, atleast the ones I’ve encountered. Some patterns have special effects to them which change how a color behave. Hero Patterns are locked to the mech it’s tied to, so you can’t take a Piranha Cipher’s pattern and apply it to an Atlas.
> Additionally, you have, I think it was five, emblem slots. With these you can apply an emblem on the mech. You can put it anywhere you want on the mech, quite a few of them are color customizable, they’re scalable, rotatable and mirrorable.
>
> Yes I do see your point, I’m not too fuzzed about it either.

I’ve never played MWO so I’m in the dark. As for Halo Infinite, I see colours being heavily monetised and I won’t be buying or grinding for them. If there’s a good selection day one that’ll have to do I guess.

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If you have the specs for it, I do recommend giving it a whirl.
Unfortunately, in terms of monetisation it is ridiculously monetised, a few colors are available for ingame money.
While you can get the premium currency, it’s not that easy and takes a while to get enough for a color, patterns are mech specific and so forth.
Screenshots for reference.

However the customization system is, incredible, and what Infinite would want to top.
Will have to see what I do, will hope that buying story aspects come with battlepasses or something.
Otherwise it’s whatever nice default there is available.

another idea to fix coatings: create two coating slots. one for the core and helmet; one for the knees, gloves and shoulders. This would effectively recreate the old color selection too.

changing the coatings themselves into custom color ones is unlikely to happen, as the coatings are licensed in their form.

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> > > You either have a coating system or a color customization one. You can’t get both. Why would 343 design coatings if we can customize our colors ourselves? You will have to grind for colors, armor pieces, emblems, etc.
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> > I know. But I don’t see why we cannot have the ability to colour them. I won’t be grinding for colours, if there’s not a decent amount of coatings with the game day one I’m out. I will not play and grind for colours.
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> We can’t have color customizable coatings because i343 decided so.
> If we had ten colors, two slots on each coat, and only ten coats, then it’d be 1000 different combinations.
> By not allowing us to customize the colors ourselves, they get to create a lot of coats with minimal effort, and thus put that in their battlepasses, incentivising us to play for them.
> They don’t want us to have the option to choose, because they want to sell us a fraction of the combinations.
> It’s all to get money.

Very well said, its obvious but many people don’t seem to understand that.

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> > > > New info: the stupid Monarch coating is 5 -Yoinking!- dollars. The Campaign might end up being awesome, but the MP is surelly not going to be good, at least in the customization side
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> > > Well i completely regret saying this now
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> > Why? Nothing has changed.
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> Don’t be a negative nancy.

I guess I can come off as pessimistic, but you cannot get complacent with a company like Microsoft. Just recently they tried to increase the gold subscription price before backlash forced them to give up. People need to remember that Microsoft runs the show and they will want to milk their biggest franchise for all it’s worth. 343 don’t have their say when it comes to monetization, they make the games and implement the systems that the executives want. Players are getting too comfortable with this F2P model, which is exactly what they want. The industry will only abuse consumers as much as the consumers allow it, if we say no, they will have no choice but to backtrack. Unfortunately this won’t happen because the industry has managed to convince players that microtransactions are necessary in a full priced AAA game from a multi million dollar franchise.