We want more info on "armor coating".

Games Halo Infinite
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> > Based off the screenshots we got in the high level update, I think armor coatings are going to eventually be received well by the community.
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> > I know a ton of people won’t agree, but I’m pretty sure we’ll end up with better customization options in regard to color than we’ve ever had before. I don’t think asymmetric coloring (Scorpion sting coating) have ever been an option, aside from maybe some of the H5 req armors.
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> I think it might be better then what a lot of us think, I agree, but overall, I think it’ll be disappointing for most people because all the cool, good colours, patterns, wear and tear on your armor look, armours, weapon skins etc will be paid only, who is kidding who here! 343I themselves even said there will be “premium cosmetics” aka all the cool good stuff you will have to pay money for :disappointed:

It honestly sounds like it’s going to be a very similar system to BF5’s live service customization systems.

And those systems themselves worked pretty great, and offered more customization than I’d seen in any BF game before that! I never spent cash on any of the premium customization options, and still ended up with really cool looking soldiers after I’d put a couple chapters (seasons) worth of playtime, completing challenges and leveling up along the way.

And the customization system itself wasn’t the issue anyone really had with that games cosmetics and what not. It was mainly the art style (and DICE’s complete failure of bug fixing and gameplay balancing, but that’s not related to cosmetics).

I guess really what it is for me, is what do I want to portray about my spartan? I personally am going to have more enjoyment theming my spartan into giving off a specific ‘vibe’ rather than trying to make my usual Red/Orange combo look good for the 9th game.

That’s all just my opinion though really

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EDIT- TLDR I am willing to buy dirt. I am not willing to unlock or buy color combinations

I’m glad that there are so many halo fans willing to defend i343’s actions by having a “wait and see” attitude. But for me it bottles down to one thing. Player creativity. Do I think that the new coatings will visually look better than the old system? Yes. Do I care? No. I would much rather have customization that is less visually stunning if it means I get to create it myself. i343 most likely could have given players access to the 7 layer creation wizard and allowed an unheard of degree of player control. They say each skin is crafted by an artist but look at it this way. An armor coating has the colors of silver and gun mettle gray and it looks amazing. But does this mean I cant get the same coating but covered in dirt or scars? Same color coating but a different material or finish? If I can’t this is very limiting. If I can then these coatings are little more than procedurally generated. Allow us to unlock these special effects, heck have scaring, dirt, gloss, etc locked behind a pay wall but please allow us to craft it ourselves. The system they described is a scam and there’s no better way to put it.

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> Ah yes, a return to Halo CE customization with single color selection. How generous of them. I would much rather by solid white as default instead of white-black, white-red, white-gray, white-blue, white-green, white-pink, and white-etc as default. Man hopefully they grace us with default solid colors, that would be so awesome and next gen.

Chill… it’s just a shader system. If coatings elicit this much anger, y’all really need to rethink your priorities.

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> > Ah yes, a return to Halo CE customization with single color selection. How generous of them. I would much rather by solid white as default instead of white-black, white-red, white-gray, white-blue, white-green, white-pink, and white-etc as default. Man hopefully they grace us with default solid colors, that would be so awesome and next gen.
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> Chill… it’s just a shader system. If coatings elicit this much anger, y’all really need to rethink your priorities.

I just wanted to point out how regressive default solid colors would be, sorry for the sarcasm

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> > Ah yes, a return to Halo CE customization with single color selection. How generous of them. I would much rather by solid white as default instead of white-black, white-red, white-gray, white-blue, white-green, white-pink, and white-etc as default. Man hopefully they grace us with default solid colors, that would be so awesome and next gen.
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> Chill… it’s just a shader system. If coatings elicit this much anger, y’all really need to rethink your priorities.

His claim is still legitimate, I do not understand how lock customization to one color from start and pay/grind for more is some sort of progress or evolution for the customization system, and I am talking about basic colors not skins now called “armour coatings”

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> I just wanted to point out how regressive default solid colors would be, sorry for the sarcasm

No worries. I’m not even a huge fan of the coating system. I just think some people are being overdramatic, considering we still have yet to receive a lot of information about it.

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> > I just wanted to point out how regressive default solid colors would be, sorry for the sarcasm
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> No worries. I’m not even a huge fan of the coating system. I just think some people are being overdramatic, considering we still have yet to receive a lot of information about it.

That’s fair, I don’t like being pessimistic about it myself. I know that the coating system is essentially locked in stone but I like to share my opinions and reservations on it in hope that they implement it in a way so that its successful on launch. My biggest worry is how in game progression works. They said no random elements will be used but if the system works like in MCC I wonder how many times I’ll have to unlock the same color combination to get a bonus effect I’ll like. And if there aren’t any repeat colors with different effect details it’ll limit my selection of color combinations. And if I unlock a color combination and the additional effects are automatically unlocked I don’t see the purpose in them saying the coatings are locked in. They might as well have a selection bar if thats the case. Like you said theres little information and it causes a lot of confusion. Plus I feel that it’ll be a UI nightmare having to scroll through tens if not hundreds of coating options. I don’t like being pessimistic but with the amount of information I can’t see how it’ll be satisfying

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Given that they just repeated everything they already said about armor coatings in this “high level” update, no one should get their hopes up that anything is going to change.

The only thing more to we could learn about armor coatings is specific pricing of individual coatings and I doubt we will learn anything concrete about that before launch to avoid any pre-launch outcry of “X amount of money for Y color!” Which to be clear will be totally fair response.

Never forget that this was always a choice. They could have given a base coating with customizable colors and tried to sell some fancier patterns like the Desert coating, but they didn’t.

The fact they are still pretending like they are doing us a favor and expanding options is just gross. This was a decision made in service of microtransactions not players, quit pretending otherwise.

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> Given that they just repeated everything they already said about armor coatings in this “high level” update, no one should get their hopes up that anything is going to change.
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> The only thing more to we could learn about armor coatings is specific pricing of individual coatings and I doubt we will learn anything concrete about that before launch to avoid any pre-launch outcry of “X amount of money for Y color!” Which to be clear will be totally fair response.
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> Never forget that this was always a choice. They could have given a base coating with customizable colors and tried to sell some fancier patterns like the Desert coating, but they didn’t.
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> The fact they are still pretending like they are doing us a favor and expanding options is just gross. This was a decision made in service of microtransactions not players, quit pretending otherwise.

This is on the money…people were so content-less that the moment a few screenshots (although beautiful armor and much better visuals than the campaign demo) were shown, nearly everybody forgot all their gripes and complaints. Even the Youtubers; aside from HiddenXperia, didn’t really voice any concerns. It’s the generation we live in, as quick and hard as something hits, its only going as long as it can until the next thing hits. Kind of sad really that they are going to get a ‘pass’ on color customization. The presence of Joe in the article kind of overshadows everything for self-explanatory reasons as well.

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> > Ok, so while I initially hated the idea of the color coating system, it is starting to grow on me for a few reasons. After reading the latest update on infinite a good portion of my concerns were addressed. There will be a starting set of coatings we will have and there are many ways to unlock different coatings and they won’t all be monetized. I guess my only concern now is for the amount of variety between the ones that are monetized versos earned by playing, like if there is a black and red coat on the store, does that mean there won’t be one that a person can earn by playing the game? Hopefully a question like that can be answered in future updates.
> > Yah, I get people dislike this new system, but for me I think it’s better than the alternative of Armor itself being monetized. In multiplayer we constantly see other players armor no matter the game mode. However we only really see the colors we normally have picked in game mode where its free for all. For me, I would rather look like the spartan I have used for years with an ODST helmet and play in red vs blue team colors, versus having to buy those armor pieces but have the ability to customize colors for that spartan so I can see them in game modes I rarely play.
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> > I do believe the alternative to coatings would have been monetizing armor itself, and there would have been backlash to that way as well. Most of you will argue that they could have done something like name plates or weapons skins instead, but keep in mind, as crappy as it is these days there is a desire to make a lot of money in micro transactions. Nameplates or weapon skins would not have the draw of spending money that colors or amor pieces themselves would have. I think this is something they thought about a lot because armor and colors are two large things in Halo and to have to pick one too monetize part of it had to be a difficult call. Like I said on armor, we see it a lot more than our personal colors, so they decided to leave armor alone and increase the customization options to offset the loose of customization of colors.
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> > I really want to see this system in more detail before jumping to conclusions, as I think it will be fine, but Im currious what the default coats will look like and how much is unlock able by playing compared to paying.
> > I know a good amount of you will probably call me all sorts of names for giving in and saying that I think the system maybe fine and you are perfectly fine having such an opinion. What I wanted to do with this post was at least put my own thoughts out there, but also point out what a lot of people seem to forget. The F2P nature of the multiplayer meant there was going to be monetization to make up for the cost, and there are only 2 real options that could makes sense, armor or colors. The question I’ll leave this off with is, would you prefer if armor was monetized but we were still able to pick primary and secondary colors instead?
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> You know Warframe just monetizes the colors instead?

No. That’s not strictly true. Warframe comes with a basic colour palette that allows us to colour every Warframe, weapon, pet, companion, operator, sentinal and landing craft, including all attachments like armour pieces and syandanas etc. You can also earn palettes and some are given away, St Valentines Day and St Patricks Day palettes are two that immediately come to mind.

Then there’s the free console exclusive palletes, the Xbox palette is a selection of 90 shades of whites, greens, grays and blacks. That can also be used in conjunction with other palettes and applied to all previously mentioned items. Other palettes can be obtained from trading standing with traders, no real money needed, in fact you can obtain all palettes from trading parts for platinum, no cash required.

Warframe is not comparable to what 343i are doing in Halo Infinite, they are removing our basic colour system and replacing it. At least Warframe offers us a basic colour palette, it looks Halo Infinite will not.

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> EDIT- TLDR I am willing to buy dirt. I am not willing to unlock or buy color combinations
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> I’m glad that there are so many halo fans willing to defend i343’s actions by having a “wait and see” attitude. But for me it bottles down to one thing. Player creativity. Do I think that the new coatings will visually look better than the old system? Yes. Do I care? No. I would much rather have customization that is less visually stunning if it means I get to create it myself. i343 most likely could have given players access to the 7 layer creation wizard and allowed an unheard of degree of player control. They say each skin is crafted by an artist but look at it this way. An armor coating has the colors of silver and gun mettle gray and it looks amazing. But does this mean I cant get the same coating but covered in dirt or scars? Same color coating but a different material or finish? If I can’t this is very limiting. If I can then these coatings are little more than procedurally generated. Allow us to unlock these special effects, heck have scaring, dirt, gloss, etc locked behind a pay wall but please allow us to craft it ourselves. The system they described is a scam and there’s no better way to put it.

Can say that I’m 100% on your opinion

776

The big update was long overdue and they should’ve made clear far earlier that what we saw in June was lacking stuff like the facial animations and all that. So seeing the updates on that made me reassured for a bit.

Then we got to the Armor Coatings and I’m still baffled by their decision to go with this over actual player control. I get that you don’t just want primary and secondary colors. I bet most of the community would cheer for more options. But why stick to the premade coating plan? Why not just go with a system that has us pick and match stuff like this:
Armor

  • Undersuit (because there seem to be some differences)
  • Individual pieces (whatever they may be)

Color

  • Primary
  • Secondary
    OR
  • Color per armor piece

Detail

  • Visor color
  • Patterns
  • Wear and tear.

Just give us the control over the system instead of determining for us how we should look. I get that it makes just about zero money that way but just monetize weapon and vehicle skins and stances for all I care. As long as I have the option to turn those skins off during matches. I don’t really need blue warthogs and all that nonsense.
Sticking to the armor coating system as it is now is just stupid if you ask me.

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I’m personally still pretty concerned about this mechanic after the update. What really disappointed me about the update (other than the fact that the only image shown of the thus-far visually disappointing campaign was an artists rendering,) was that it feels like they are trying to back track and just establish that certain game mechanics will be as good as they were in Halo: Reach. It says a lot when the biggest thing you can say in an update about a next-gen game, a month after it was supposed to be released, is that the armor customization will be as good as it was a decade ago. Not super inspiring. Add to that the disappointing armor coatings idea, and I’m just losing interest in this game. I’ve been a passionate fan for two decades and I keep being surprised and disappointed by the removal of features that I took for granted (like being able to pick your armors color?)

I’m getting the sense that 343 is afraid to commit to saying anything or committing to certain game mechanics, because so much of what they have done thus far has been poorly received. Ultimately, everyone is going to find out what they’ve got cooking next year, so they might as well just put it all out on the table now when they still have time to adjust to feedback.

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> > > Ok, so while I initially hated the idea of the color coating system, it is starting to grow on me for a few reasons. After reading the latest update on infinite a good portion of my concerns were addressed. There will be a starting set of coatings we will have and there are many ways to unlock different coatings and they won’t all be monetized. I guess my only concern now is for the amount of variety between the ones that are monetized versos earned by playing, like if there is a black and red coat on the store, does that mean there won’t be one that a person can earn by playing the game? Hopefully a question like that can be answered in future updates.
> > > Yah, I get people dislike this new system, but for me I think it’s better than the alternative of Armor itself being monetized. In multiplayer we constantly see other players armor no matter the game mode. However we only really see the colors we normally have picked in game mode where its free for all. For me, I would rather look like the spartan I have used for years with an ODST helmet and play in red vs blue team colors, versus having to buy those armor pieces but have the ability to customize colors for that spartan so I can see them in game modes I rarely play.
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> > > I do believe the alternative to coatings would have been monetizing armor itself, and there would have been backlash to that way as well. Most of you will argue that they could have done something like name plates or weapons skins instead, but keep in mind, as crappy as it is these days there is a desire to make a lot of money in micro transactions. Nameplates or weapon skins would not have the draw of spending money that colors or amor pieces themselves would have. I think this is something they thought about a lot because armor and colors are two large things in Halo and to have to pick one too monetize part of it had to be a difficult call. Like I said on armor, we see it a lot more than our personal colors, so they decided to leave armor alone and increase the customization options to offset the loose of customization of colors.
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> > > I really want to see this system in more detail before jumping to conclusions, as I think it will be fine, but Im currious what the default coats will look like and how much is unlock able by playing compared to paying.
> > > I know a good amount of you will probably call me all sorts of names for giving in and saying that I think the system maybe fine and you are perfectly fine having such an opinion. What I wanted to do with this post was at least put my own thoughts out there, but also point out what a lot of people seem to forget. The F2P nature of the multiplayer meant there was going to be monetization to make up for the cost, and there are only 2 real options that could makes sense, armor or colors. The question I’ll leave this off with is, would you prefer if armor was monetized but we were still able to pick primary and secondary colors instead?
> >
> > You know Warframe just monetizes the colors instead?
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> No. That’s not strictly true. Warframe comes with a basic colour palette that allows us to colour every Warframe, weapon, pet, companion, operator, sentinal and landing craft, including all attachments like armour pieces and syandanas etc. You can also earn palettes and some are given away, St Valentines Day and St Patricks Day palettes are two that immediately come to mind.
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> Then there’s the free console exclusive palletes, the Xbox palette is a selection of 90 shades of whites, greens, grays and blacks. That can also be used in conjunction with other palettes and applied to all previously mentioned items. Other palettes can be obtained from trading standing with traders, no real money needed, in fact you can obtain all palettes from trading parts for platinum, no cash required.
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> Warframe is not comparable to what 343i are doing in Halo Infinite, they are removing our basic colour system and replacing it. At least Warframe offers us a basic colour palette, it looks Halo Infinite will not.

I was referencing how much better Warframe’s system is…

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Wanna know what’s telling about the coatings section of the update?

> CB: Yes, the coating system is something that the Live team and our 3D artists designed directly after Halo 5 and is part of the overall customization picture. In previous Halo titles, we had a series of inputs that were simple RGBs in primary and secondary channels. For Halo Infinite, we didn’t feel that flat colors in a singular pattern were good enough.
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> The coating system allows us to define color, wear and tear, patterns, and materials on a region-by-region basis on the Spartan or anything in the game be it armor, weapons, vehicles, or even environment elements like fuel barrels. To get to our design vision we needed to make an exceedingly difficult decision to move away from a system that was in the game from early days – primary and secondary color. This decision was not made lightly, but it has laid the foundation for greater detail and variation when it comes to color customization.

See that? Those little snipes at what was essentially player freedom that nobody had a problem with. It’s utterly tone deaf to think they could dismiss something that got the job done better than all the STRIPES and variants they had in H5. All that content and most are still fine with default armor and our two colors - and something about that itches them.

I alluded to this in the past - it’s a design culture at 343 that’s settled in place since they took over. This kind of dictation that a lot of AAA studios work by now. And when they explain themselves they have lil snipes like the bolded text above that doubles down.

If you want an income model with coatings/shaders/skins, just say so, bro. It is what it is. We don’t need passive aggressive digs because you’re not just talking to hysterical trolls - it’s us too.

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With the recent post about Halo Infinite everything sounds & looks very good. It’s everything that needed to be done since the taking over from 343 Industry. However there’s one thing that is bothering me & that is the introduction of armor coating for Halo Infinite. I watched a video from HiddenXperia & he went over the article about the latest news of Halo Infinite. As he went over the customization part of the article, I saw that the topic of armor coating really bothered him & I have to saw it bothers me too. (Here’s the link of the article he was going through INSANE HALO INFINITE UPDATE - MULTIPLAYER SCREENSHOTS, FLIGHTING, CAMPAIGN, PLAYABLE ELITES TEASE??? - YouTube about 20 minutes into the video HiddenXperia goes over armor coating). I can’t help but feel that armor coating is something similar to shaders from Destiny & that it might replace primary & secondary color choice option. Having the ability to choose whatever color you want for your spartan has always been a great feature for customization. Picking & choosing where you want to put your colors has always been great because it gives players creativity to their unique spartans. By introducing armor coating to Halo Infinite, it removes that part of creativity for customization. I’m sure that the Halo community grew fond of the primary & secondary color choice & I don’t remember hearing a single player complaining about it. 343 Industry, please I beg of you to not replace our ability to choose what colors we want to pick. If you want to introduce armor coating than that’s fine I’m sure you guys might do a really good job but don’t add a new feature that might replace an old feature that players grew with love. To the Halo community, please help me & make them see this forum post. Help me & tell them “NO” if armor coating is going to replace primary & secondary color options.

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> With the recent post about Halo Infinite everything sounds & looks very good. It’s everything that needed to be done since the taking over from 343 Industry. However there’s one thing that is bothering me & that is the introduction of armor coating for Halo Infinite. I watched a video from HiddenXperia & he went over the article about the latest news of Halo Infinite. As he went over the customization part of the article, I saw that the topic of armor coating really bothered him & I have to saw it bothers me too. (Here’s the link of the article he was going through INSANE HALO INFINITE UPDATE - MULTIPLAYER SCREENSHOTS, FLIGHTING, CAMPAIGN, PLAYABLE ELITES TEASE??? - YouTube about 20 minutes into the video HiddenXperia goes over armor coating). I can’t help but feel that armor coating is something similar to shaders from Destiny & that it might replace primary & secondary color choice option. Having the ability to choose whatever color you want for your spartan has always been a great feature for customization. Picking & choosing where you want to put your colors has always been great because it gives players creativity to their unique spartans. By introducing armor coating to Halo Infinite, it removes that part of creativity for customization. I’m sure that the Halo community grew fond of the primary & secondary color choice & I don’t remember hearing a single player complaining about it. 343 Industry, please I beg of you to not replace our ability to choose what colors we want to pick. If you want to introduce armor coating than that’s fine I’m sure you guys might do a really good job but don’t add a new feature that might replace an old feature that players grew with love. To the Halo community, please help me & make them see this forum post. Help me & tell them “NO” if armor coating is going to replace primary & secondary color options.

hate to break it to you but you’re very late to the party and armor coatings are a for sure thing…choosing colors isn’t going to happen in this game.

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Yeah the convo is over. At this point we need to focus on core gameplay, feature set, etc. But I’ll say one thing: If they have this attitude about something as sacred as a 20 year old option, you best believe nothing is safe (even after H5).

All we can do is wait and vote with our wallets.

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I hate how 343 keeps saying that coatings will offer greater detail and variation when it comes to color selection. Lets take a look back at the armor customization in Halo 4 and 5. Strictly going by the numbers, one can argue that halo 4 and 5 offered “Greater detail and variation” yet in this article they stressed that they are returning to Halo Reaches level of armor customization. Why is a game thats almost 10 years old considered better despite having less detail and variation? It boils down to player control. Reach had greater control over the look of your spartan despite halo 4 and 5 having literally hundreds of premade armor sets. They are returning to the levels of player control that reach had, not level of customization. The issue wasn’t with the number, it was with it being premade. They said in the post they’re revisiting the number of selections of coatings available in the starting set. But number was never the issue. The issue is with control. By taking away player control they harm the overall customization experience. When kids get a coloring book as a gift, do you think that they’d rather have all drawings pre-colored? Or is it more fun to color them in however they wish? Don’t sell us premade coloring books by marketing the number of pages. I’d rather have a 10 page blank coloring book than a thousand paged book pre-colored. And thats what this boils down to. 343, just own it and come out and say this design decision was for a monetization model.

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> > > > Ok, so while I initially hated the idea of the color coating system, it is starting to grow on me for a few reasons. After reading the latest update on infinite a good portion of my concerns were addressed. There will be a starting set of coatings we will have and there are many ways to unlock different coatings and they won’t all be monetized. I guess my only concern now is for the amount of variety between the ones that are monetized versos earned by playing, like if there is a black and red coat on the store, does that mean there won’t be one that a person can earn by playing the game? Hopefully a question like that can be answered in future updates.
> > > > Yah, I get people dislike this new system, but for me I think it’s better than the alternative of Armor itself being monetized. In multiplayer we constantly see other players armor no matter the game mode. However we only really see the colors we normally have picked in game mode where its free for all. For me, I would rather look like the spartan I have used for years with an ODST helmet and play in red vs blue team colors, versus having to buy those armor pieces but have the ability to customize colors for that spartan so I can see them in game modes I rarely play.
> > > >
> > > > I do believe the alternative to coatings would have been monetizing armor itself, and there would have been backlash to that way as well. Most of you will argue that they could have done something like name plates or weapons skins instead, but keep in mind, as crappy as it is these days there is a desire to make a lot of money in micro transactions. Nameplates or weapon skins would not have the draw of spending money that colors or amor pieces themselves would have. I think this is something they thought about a lot because armor and colors are two large things in Halo and to have to pick one too monetize part of it had to be a difficult call. Like I said on armor, we see it a lot more than our personal colors, so they decided to leave armor alone and increase the customization options to offset the loose of customization of colors.
> > > >
> > > > I really want to see this system in more detail before jumping to conclusions, as I think it will be fine, but Im currious what the default coats will look like and how much is unlock able by playing compared to paying.
> > > > I know a good amount of you will probably call me all sorts of names for giving in and saying that I think the system maybe fine and you are perfectly fine having such an opinion. What I wanted to do with this post was at least put my own thoughts out there, but also point out what a lot of people seem to forget. The F2P nature of the multiplayer meant there was going to be monetization to make up for the cost, and there are only 2 real options that could makes sense, armor or colors. The question I’ll leave this off with is, would you prefer if armor was monetized but we were still able to pick primary and secondary colors instead?
> > >
> > > You know Warframe just monetizes the colors instead?
> >
> > No. That’s not strictly true. Warframe comes with a basic colour palette that allows us to colour every Warframe, weapon, pet, companion, operator, sentinal and landing craft, including all attachments like armour pieces and syandanas etc. You can also earn palettes and some are given away, St Valentines Day and St Patricks Day palettes are two that immediately come to mind.
> >
> > Then there’s the free console exclusive palletes, the Xbox palette is a selection of 90 shades of whites, greens, grays and blacks. That can also be used in conjunction with other palettes and applied to all previously mentioned items. Other palettes can be obtained from trading standing with traders, no real money needed, in fact you can obtain all palettes from trading parts for platinum, no cash required.
> >
> > Warframe is not comparable to what 343i are doing in Halo Infinite, they are removing our basic colour system and replacing it. At least Warframe offers us a basic colour palette, it looks Halo Infinite will not.
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> I was referencing how much better Warframe’s system is…

I know, and I agree with you. I was just pointing out that Warframe’s colours are not strictly pay walled. The breakdown was for others not aware of how Warframe works, was not criticizing you in any way, sorry if it came across that way, it was not my intention.