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> When you think things can’t get any worse regarding coatings… Unfortunately, I saw the granular armour coating which is an exclusive to the “chips ahoy” cookies. Despite the image I saw not being very clear, I’ve noticed the visor colour was different than the previous coatings that we were shown. Does that mean our visors are preset to whichever wretched coating we’re stuck with? Surely not?! How did we let this one slip our minds?
Yeah I brought this up a while back too but it was passed by. Pretty sure visor color will be linked to the coating as well…but this hasn’t been confirmed to my knowledge.
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> > When you think things can’t get any worse regarding coatings… Unfortunately, I saw the granular armour coating which is an exclusive to the “chips ahoy” cookies. Despite the image I saw not being very clear, I’ve noticed the visor colour was different than the previous coatings that we were shown. Does that mean our visors are preset to whichever wretched coating we’re stuck with? Surely not?! How did we let this one slip our minds?
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> Yeah I brought this up a while back too but it was passed by. Pretty sure visor color will be linked to the coating as well…but this hasn’t been confirmed to my knowledge.
I just edited the post with a link to it. Surely the devs can give us a little more insight to this?
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> > > When you think things can’t get any worse regarding coatings… Unfortunately, I saw the granular armour coating which is an exclusive to the “chips ahoy” cookies. Despite the image I saw not being very clear, I’ve noticed the visor colour was different than the previous coatings that we were shown. Does that mean our visors are preset to whichever wretched coating we’re stuck with? Surely not?! How did we let this one slip our minds?
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> > Yeah I brought this up a while back too but it was passed by. Pretty sure visor color will be linked to the coating as well…but this hasn’t been confirmed to my knowledge.
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> I just edited the post with a link to it. Surely the devs can give us a little more insight to this?
I looked at the Reddit posts in there…people still think colors are customizable . I’m sure with an armor coating like “Red Shift” they have every intention of letting you color it pink.
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> Does that mean our visors are preset to whichever wretched coating we’re stuck with? Surely not?! How did we let this one slip our minds?
We have no way to know that unfortunately. All we can do is wait and see.
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> I looked at the Reddit posts in there…people still think colors are customizable . I’m sure with an armor coating like “Red Shift” they have every intention of letting you color it pink.
They got to make money somehow. That is why I honestly think the multiplayer shouldn’t have gone free to play and they should have just slapped it in together with the campaign, like previous Halo games.
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> > Does that mean our visors are preset to whichever wretched coating we’re stuck with? Surely not?! How did we let this one slip our minds?
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> We have no way to know that unfortunately. All we can do is wait and see.
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> > I looked at the Reddit posts in there…people still think colors are customizable . I’m sure with an armor coating like “Red Shift” they have every intention of letting you color it pink.
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> They got to make money somehow. That is why I honestly think the multiplayer shouldn’t have gone free to play and they should have just slapped it in together with the campaign, like previous Halo games.
I completely understand that with the multiplayer being free to play, they’d need a method of steady money flow to keep the game maintained. It’s a big step & a great way to welcome a larger player base to the series. Thus I mentioned in a previous post, that micro-transactions become a necessary evil to justify such a step. Especially if they’re not charging us for DLC that could potentially lock players out of certain game modes & maps. In all honesty, I’m not opposed to micro-transactions in the slightest for said reason. However, as long they’re reasonable. I believe that the in-game purchases should simply be; frequently released, additional armour bundles, patterns, visor colours, weapon & vehicle skins, similar to Modern Warfare 2019. (Perhaps even add a bit of lore to each bundle to canonise it all) The only difference being is that the armour pieces of each bundle can be mixed & matched with any existing armours you’ve acquired. I can see something like this working REALLY well. The primary/Secondary colours wouldn’t have to be tampered with in this case & would make a much better alternative than this ridiculous coating system.
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> I completely understand that with the multiplayer being free to play, they’d need a method of steady money flow to keep the game maintained. It’s a big step & a great way to welcome a larger player base to the series. Thus I mentioned in a previous post, that micro-transactions become a necessary evil to justify such a step. Especially if they’re not charging us for DLC that could potentially lock players out of certain game modes & maps. In all honesty, I’m not opposed to micro-transactions in the slightest for said reason. However, as long they’re reasonable. I believe that the in-game purchases should simply be; frequently released, additional armour bundles, patterns, visor colours, weapon & vehicle skins, similar to Modern Warfare 2019. (Perhaps even add a bit of lore to each bundle to canonise it all) The only difference being is that the armour pieces of each bundle can be mixed & matched with any existing armours you’ve acquired. I can see something like this working REALLY well. The primary/Secondary colours wouldn’t have to be tampered with in this case & would make a much better alternative than this ridiculous coating system.
I think they should just stick to the Reach/MCC formula and let us unlock cosmetics by just playing the game, be it multiplayer or campaigns. Pre-defined colors on Armor Coatings sure do not look like something we would want, from all we gathered so far.
I’m in total agreement that 343 should explain how this feature works cause I don’t feel comfortable playing a game that forces me to pay cash just so I can have the Steel Grey/Dark Green color combo I’ve had for years.
Personally I find it appalling that after Halo 4 the armor customization kept on being downgraded; Halo MCC it has literally taken six years for a proper customization cause we were left with one fixed set for half of the games that had that feature, and with Halo 5 the only thing you can switch out is the helmet, and armor set, and Halo Infinite appears to be continuing in that direction with this coating system.
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> > I completely understand that with the multiplayer being free to play, they’d need a method of steady money flow to keep the game maintained. It’s a big step & a great way to welcome a larger player base to the series. Thus I mentioned in a previous post, that micro-transactions become a necessary evil to justify such a step. Especially if they’re not charging us for DLC that could potentially lock players out of certain game modes & maps. In all honesty, I’m not opposed to micro-transactions in the slightest for said reason. However, as long they’re reasonable. I believe that the in-game purchases should simply be; frequently released, additional armour bundles, patterns, visor colours, weapon & vehicle skins, similar to Modern Warfare 2019. (Perhaps even add a bit of lore to each bundle to canonise it all) The only difference being is that the armour pieces of each bundle can be mixed & matched with any existing armours you’ve acquired. I can see something like this working REALLY well. The primary/Secondary colours wouldn’t have to be tampered with in this case & would make a much better alternative than this ridiculous coating system.
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> I think they should just stick to the Reach/MCC formula and let us unlock cosmetics by just playing the game, be it multiplayer or campaigns. Pre-defined colors on Armor Coatings sure do not look like something we would want, from all we gathered so far.
Personally, I’d agree with that completely. The Reach/MCC formula is clearly the preferred option. It just goes back to raising the same question though; How do they maintain the game without a form of income, especially if it’s Free to play? Hence why they found the worst way to monetise the customisation. In this case, the colours.
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> I’m in total agreement that 343 should explain how this feature works cause I don’t feel comfortable playing a game that forces me to pay cash just so I can have the Steel Grey/Dark Green color combo I’ve had for years.
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> Personally I find it appalling that after Halo 4 the armor customization kept on being downgraded; Halo MCC it has literally taken six years for a proper customization cause we were left with one fixed set for half of the games that had that feature, and with Halo 5 the only thing you can switch out is the helmet, and armor set, and Halo Infinite appears to be continuing in that direction with this coating system.
Exactly. How do you go from good to worse, then rock bottom? I’m pretty sure the majority of the player base feels the same way.
Side note; Phil Spencer hinted towards a holiday 2021 release. If that means we’ve gotta wait another year, hopefully that gives 343i enough time to reconsider going back to Primary & Secondary colours. Supposedly they have problems making that compatible with the engine, however I’m sure the devs could work that out in the year? The only thing worrying me would be the marketing campaigns & the countless amount of money put into promoting these -Yoink!- coatings… Would they really let the money go to waste like that?
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> Side note; Phil Spencer hinted towards a holiday 2021 release. If that means we’ve gotta wait another year, hopefully that gives 343i enough time to reconsider going back to Primary & Secondary colours. Supposedly they have problems making that compatible with the engine, however I’m sure the devs could work that out in the year? The only thing worrying me would be the marketing campaigns & the countless amount of money put into promoting these -Yoink!- coatings… Would they really let the money go to waste like that?
One could hope . But seems like we are being ignored
We all knew what the answer about cosmetics was as soon as the information dropped that it was free to play. Even before the “coating system” or whatever they’re calling it. Every free to play model sustains itself on largely cosmetics sales. The tried and true formula. If they were to do REQs or Weapons or whatever it would cause an actual uproar as that would be seen of course as pay-to-win.
There’s no sense even discussing it, honestly. 343 is just not Bungie. There’s no vidocs. Not really any transparency. No real fan feedback listening. Bungie had its own problems, but that’s another topic.
It’s blatantly obvious that they are again trying to re-invent the Halo wheel to match other current happenings in gaming instead of pioneer anything for itself like older Halos did. And they are likely going to straight rip off the MW2019 season pass/emblem/customization system as everyone in the gaming industry saw that it brought in over 3 million $$ per day. There will also likely be a BR mode despite claims to the contrary. That’s just how they are running things. If you aren’t a fan of it, i would simply suggest you just don’t buy it or at the very least don’t buy in cosmetic store items. Money talks.
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> We all knew what the answer about cosmetics was as soon as the information dropped that it was free to play. Even before the “coating system” or whatever they’re calling it. Every free to play model sustains itself on largely cosmetics sales. The tried and true formula. If they were to do REQs or Weapons or whatever it would cause an actual uproar as that would be seen of course as pay-to-win.
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> There’s no sense even discussing it, honestly. 343 is just not Bungie. There’s no vidocs. Not really any transparency. No real fan feedback listening. Bungie had its own problems, but that’s another topic.
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> It’s blatantly obvious that they are again trying to re-invent the Halo wheel to match other current happenings in gaming instead of pioneer anything for itself like older Halos did. And they are likely going to straight rip off the MW2019 season pass/emblem/customization system as everyone in the gaming industry saw that it brought in over 3 million $$ per day. There will also likely be a BR mode despite claims to the contrary. That’s just how they are running things. If you aren’t a fan of it, i would simply suggest you just don’t buy it or at the very least don’t buy in cosmetic store items. Money talks.
Money talks, you pretty much nailed it on the head. The only thing I’d argue back with is the fact that they have so many ways to add micro-transactions & in-game purchases. Why monetise the colours of all things?
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> > We all knew what the answer about cosmetics was as soon as the information dropped that it was free to play. Even before the “coating system” or whatever they’re calling it. Every free to play model sustains itself on largely cosmetics sales. The tried and true formula. If they were to do REQs or Weapons or whatever it would cause an actual uproar as that would be seen of course as pay-to-win.
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> > There’s no sense even discussing it, honestly. 343 is just not Bungie. There’s no vidocs. Not really any transparency. No real fan feedback listening. Bungie had its own problems, but that’s another topic.
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> > It’s blatantly obvious that they are again trying to re-invent the Halo wheel to match other current happenings in gaming instead of pioneer anything for itself like older Halos did. And they are likely going to straight rip off the MW2019 season pass/emblem/customization system as everyone in the gaming industry saw that it brought in over 3 million $$ per day. There will also likely be a BR mode despite claims to the contrary. That’s just how they are running things. If you aren’t a fan of it, i would simply suggest you just don’t buy it or at the very least don’t buy in cosmetic store items. Money talks.
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> Money talks, you pretty much nailed it on the head. The only thing I’d argue back with is the fact that they have so many ways to add micro-transactions & in-game purchases. Why monetise the colours of all things?
Because that’s what everyone does, pretty much. They’re changing from a “color” system to something that is basically a “skin” system. Everyone does skins and weapon skins now, more or less.
Looks like the news update came and went, and nothing was even discussed.
Not a shred of anything actually useful was put into that piece of “news”.
There’s something so tone-deaf to say:
> Over the past few months, and because of the delay, you’ve learned a lot about Halo Infinite from our various retail and partner programs. We see that you, our community, have so many questions and are hungry for more information. We know. We hear you. We understand.
Then to have the entire post related to marketing / more promos and nothing more.
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> Looks like the news update came and went, and nothing was even discussed.
> Not a shred of anything actually useful was put into that piece of “news”.
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> There’s something so tone-deaf to say:
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> > Over the past few months, and because of the delay, you’ve learned a lot about Halo Infinite from our various retail and partner programs. We see that you, our community, have so many questions and are hungry for more information. We know. We hear you. We understand.
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> Then to have the entire post related to marketing / more promos and nothing more.
Agreed. I only read the community updates for MCC stuff, so seeing them promote the Gamestop coating and post two of the images from the controversial Colorful Column update put a gross taste in my mouth. They know how much the community hates the coatings, and are aware that such an action was the final straw for a lot the community, yet they actively double down on it, and it’s sad.
This is your periodic reminder that they absolutely could have done everything they wanted to do with the “multiple layers” of armor coatings and still allowed players to customize the colors.
This was always a choice, and they chose wringing more money out the community instead of actually expanding customization options. This is exactly the type of thing I was worried about when they announced multiplayer would be F2P. I only expect things to get worse with the inevitable Battle Pass. I really do hope they change course before release, but I don’t hold out much hope.
. I’m sure with an armor coating like “Red Shift” they have every intention of letting you color it pink.
. But seems like we are being ignored