We want more info on "armor coating".

Games Halo Infinite
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> > > > > > > > > > > Ya know what? If this is what we get instead of REQ packs . . . I will just have to live with it. Because at least its only the textures that are being affected. You never know, maybe 343 will explain the system and people will suddenly love it. Because lets get real, would you rather have every armor locked behind a pay-wall? Or would you prefer to have colors behind a pay-wall? I personally would prefer for colors to be locked behind a pay-wall.
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> > > > > > > > > > I’d rather unlock armor/colors by simply playing like I used for a game I ALREADY PAID FOR. Anything else is exorbitant greed.
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> > > > > > > > > Who says you can’t?
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> > > > > > > > Sure hope that the color scheme you like isn’t behind a massive grind wall designed to frustrate you into just buying it for $5.
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> > > > > > > > Come on people, use your heads, we’ve all seen how this F2P crap works.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Personally, I’m just more excited about the potential of armor coatings than mourning the loss of having primary colors. The potential of unique patterns, designs, effects, equipment, and more on your armor excites me too much to care about simple color schemes.
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> > > > > > “The Prophets are liars, but you are fools to do their bidding.”
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --Arbiter
> > > > >
> > > > > Meh, to me it seems more productive to be excited about the potential of a new direction than complain pointlessly online about a topic we don’t fully understand yet. Because remember, all this whining is from a paragraph and some screenshots.
> > > >
> > > > Why is blind support and hype “more productive” then being critical? Enjoying a product doesn’t mean you accept anything that is given to you simply because it has the name of that product on it.
> > >
> > > Where’s the blind support? It points to reason to wait to hear the full information before losing your mind over partial information and jumping to conclusions :slight_smile:
> >
> > But it’s not us jumping to conclusions that they took out classic customization in favor for shaders, many of which are confirmed to be paywalled, even if temporarily. There’s no speculation in those facts, and that is what we’re mad about.
>
> Fair enough, but while they did confirm coatings would replace primary/secondary color options, we don’t know the full extent of what WILL be available. It could be better than what we had, it could be worse. We truly don’t know and I personally want to see what it is before panicking.

Still pushing that, even though literally no one who isn’t a 343 stan is buying it?

They’ve had a week now. If we’re wrong, they could say so. They haven’t said anything even as everything caught on fire, which only makes sense if we’re right, and they’re scrambling to come up with a way to address the community.

Armor colors are going to be aggressively monetized. Period.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > Ya know what? If this is what we get instead of REQ packs . . . I will just have to live with it. Because at least its only the textures that are being affected. You never know, maybe 343 will explain the system and people will suddenly love it. Because lets get real, would you rather have every armor locked behind a pay-wall? Or would you prefer to have colors behind a pay-wall? I personally would prefer for colors to be locked behind a pay-wall.
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> > > > > > > > > > > I’d rather unlock armor/colors by simply playing like I used for a game I ALREADY PAID FOR. Anything else is exorbitant greed.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Who says you can’t?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sure hope that the color scheme you like isn’t behind a massive grind wall designed to frustrate you into just buying it for $5.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Come on people, use your heads, we’ve all seen how this F2P crap works.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Personally, I’m just more excited about the potential of armor coatings than mourning the loss of having primary colors. The potential of unique patterns, designs, effects, equipment, and more on your armor excites me too much to care about simple color schemes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > “The Prophets are liars, but you are fools to do their bidding.”
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --Arbiter
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Meh, to me it seems more productive to be excited about the potential of a new direction than complain pointlessly online about a topic we don’t fully understand yet. Because remember, all this whining is from a paragraph and some screenshots.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why is blind support and hype “more productive” then being critical? Enjoying a product doesn’t mean you accept anything that is given to you simply because it has the name of that product on it.
> > > >
> > > > Where’s the blind support? It points to reason to wait to hear the full information before losing your mind over partial information and jumping to conclusions :slight_smile:
> > >
> > > But it’s not us jumping to conclusions that they took out classic customization in favor for shaders, many of which are confirmed to be paywalled, even if temporarily. There’s no speculation in those facts, and that is what we’re mad about.
> >
> > Fair enough, but while they did confirm coatings would replace primary/secondary color options, we don’t know the full extent of what WILL be available. It could be better than what we had, it could be worse. We truly don’t know and I personally want to see what it is before panicking.
>
> Still pushing that, even though literally no one who isn’t a 343 stan is buying it?
>
> They’ve had a week now. If we’re wrong, they could say so. They haven’t said anything even as everything caught on fire, which only makes sense if we’re right, and they’re scrambling to come up with a way to address the community.
>
> Armor colors are going to be aggressively monetized. Period.

This is where you’re misguided. If “we’re” wrong as if there is one, cohesive argument from people complaining. There isn’t. That is why often times companies don’t even address concerns from their fanbase, as they’re often scattered and baseless (as a lot of speculation in this thread is). Uny responded, and addressed some concerns along with saying more is coming soon. We’ll see what they say, but I suspect they don’t exactly want to jeopardize their marketing layout for panicking fans with no cohesive complaint apart from “I don’t like change”.

As for “Armor colors are going to be aggressively monetized. Period”… this is basically only making the point I made above.

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> Are you guys also flat-Earthers? The fact that you really seem to believe that everything is a conspiracy against you is very telling.

So you have nothing then. Considering that’s the approach you want to take, and methods your resort to.

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> This may be a shock, but most of the time there’s no ulterior motive at work when a change is made between iterations of a game. Obviously, they want to make Infinite better than the previous games. They’ve decided that this armor coating system is one way to achieve this. That’s it.

Ulterior motives and making better games are not mutually exclusive.
The gaming industry has slowly but steadily moved towards heavier and heavier monetization methods. This type of skin / coat system is pretty much what all free-to-play games use. You’re not really able to customize the skin itself, only choose which one to use.
Here’s that “better” again.
Relative to what? And for whom?
They’ve certainly made a decision, but for whom is it better? The end user i.e the gamer? In what way? Who are they to decide that? Or for them as they’ve expressed it allows them to do some stuff “better” and “more”, yet no information relative to what.
The coating system certainly is an apt opportunity for them to monetize the free-to-play part of Halo. In that way, it is better than previous games for them, in that way, is it better for them.

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> Consider this: Wouldn’t it be a really bad idea for 343 to implement something that players universally hate in their game? Wouldn’t that scare away many players who 343 want to become paying customers?

Yes, and it does.
Companies are however extremely good at pushing the envelope as well as walking on the border.
They’ve been patient with normalising things that years ago would have not worked, not only that, but it’s also their game, or no game.

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> It doesn’t make sense for them to do that. They’ll be far more successful if they make the game with the players in mind.

And that’s why they’re careful not to overstep what they do. The games are not bad enough to turn too many away, but they still utilise monetization methods which aren’t for the player.
Care to share which monetization methods are for the players?

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> That’s what they’ve done here. They’ve come to the conclusion that armor coatings are better in the long run. But, because people can’t fathom the possibility of 343 doing something that’s good, you assume they’re being greedy.

And as far as I’m concerned, they’ve made that decision on behalf of us without any sort of input from our part.
Have they maybe said why they think it is “better” for “us”? I was under the impression they said it made some stuff better for them, without going into detail what exactly that entails.

Let’s see, Halo 5 jumped on the Loot Box train, forced.
Halo Wars 2 was on the Card-Game train, forced.
Skins is by far the most monetized aspect of games, especially free-to-play games.
Pretty sure it was close to universally applauded when i343 delayed Infinite, as a good thing.
People can fathom i343 doing good things, they’re just not giving any sort of indication that this is a good thing, and with their track record, there’s little trust.

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> Maybe wait until you actually get your hands on the game and see how it works for yourself before deciding that it’s the worst thing humanity has ever done.

So, trying to apply hyperbole to downplay someone else’s critisism, does it feel like you’re properly engaging the points you’re trying to argue?
With the information given, I can use my experience from other games with similar mechanics to this, and come to a conclusion on the subject.
The idea is to provide feedback now, and maybe if there are enough people who voice their concern, i343 can revert or change their approach so that when I finally get the game in my hands, it’s something I enjoy from the start.

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> > > > > > > > > > > Ya know what? If this is what we get instead of REQ packs . . . I will just have to live with it. Because at least its only the textures that are being affected. You never know, maybe 343 will explain the system and people will suddenly love it. Because lets get real, would you rather have every armor locked behind a pay-wall? Or would you prefer to have colors behind a pay-wall? I personally would prefer for colors to be locked behind a pay-wall.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I’d rather unlock armor/colors by simply playing like I used for a game I ALREADY PAID FOR. Anything else is exorbitant greed.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Who says you can’t?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sure hope that the color scheme you like isn’t behind a massive grind wall designed to frustrate you into just buying it for $5.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Come on people, use your heads, we’ve all seen how this F2P crap works.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Personally, I’m just more excited about the potential of armor coatings than mourning the loss of having primary colors. The potential of unique patterns, designs, effects, equipment, and more on your armor excites me too much to care about simple color schemes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > “The Prophets are liars, but you are fools to do their bidding.”
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --Arbiter
> > > > >
> > > > > Meh, to me it seems more productive to be excited about the potential of a new direction than complain pointlessly online about a topic we don’t fully understand yet. Because remember, all this whining is from a paragraph and some screenshots.
> > > >
> > > > Why is blind support and hype “more productive” then being critical? Enjoying a product doesn’t mean you accept anything that is given to you simply because it has the name of that product on it.
> > >
> > > Where’s the blind support? It points to reason to wait to hear the full information before losing your mind over partial information and jumping to conclusions :slight_smile:
> >
> > But it’s not us jumping to conclusions that they took out classic customization in favor for shaders, many of which are confirmed to be paywalled, even if temporarily. There’s no speculation in those facts, and that is what we’re mad about.
>
> Fair enough, but while they did confirm coatings would replace primary/secondary color options, we don’t know the full extent of what WILL be available. It could be better than what we had, it could be worse. We truly don’t know and I personally want to see what it is before panicking.

In my opinion the matter of having to unlock our colors, free or paid, is objectively worse in almost every way. I can see about 3 options with how it’s gonna go:

  • Destiny 1 shaders that color the entire set - Destiny 2 shaders where we can color individual pieces where shaders are unlimited use - Destiny 2 shaders where we color individual pieces but the coatings are single use, like Destiny 2I just want the ability to choose my colors without hoping for RNJesus to grace me with a steel and sage coating, if it even exists that is. Because now the colors that people have used for years have a decent chance of not even being in the game. So I personally will not wait for more to come out before stating my immense dissatisfaction with this objectively worse system.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Ya know what? If this is what we get instead of REQ packs . . . I will just have to live with it. Because at least its only the textures that are being affected. You never know, maybe 343 will explain the system and people will suddenly love it. Because lets get real, would you rather have every armor locked behind a pay-wall? Or would you prefer to have colors behind a pay-wall? I personally would prefer for colors to be locked behind a pay-wall.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I’d rather unlock armor/colors by simply playing like I used for a game I ALREADY PAID FOR. Anything else is exorbitant greed.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Who says you can’t?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sure hope that the color scheme you like isn’t behind a massive grind wall designed to frustrate you into just buying it for $5.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Come on people, use your heads, we’ve all seen how this F2P crap works.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Personally, I’m just more excited about the potential of armor coatings than mourning the loss of having primary colors. The potential of unique patterns, designs, effects, equipment, and more on your armor excites me too much to care about simple color schemes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > “The Prophets are liars, but you are fools to do their bidding.”
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --Arbiter
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Meh, to me it seems more productive to be excited about the potential of a new direction than complain pointlessly online about a topic we don’t fully understand yet. Because remember, all this whining is from a paragraph and some screenshots.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why is blind support and hype “more productive” then being critical? Enjoying a product doesn’t mean you accept anything that is given to you simply because it has the name of that product on it.
> > > >
> > > > Where’s the blind support? It points to reason to wait to hear the full information before losing your mind over partial information and jumping to conclusions :slight_smile:
> > >
> > > But it’s not us jumping to conclusions that they took out classic customization in favor for shaders, many of which are confirmed to be paywalled, even if temporarily. There’s no speculation in those facts, and that is what we’re mad about.
> >
> > Fair enough, but while they did confirm coatings would replace primary/secondary color options, we don’t know the full extent of what WILL be available. It could be better than what we had, it could be worse. We truly don’t know and I personally want to see what it is before panicking.
>
> In my opinion the matter of having to unlock our colors, free or paid, is objectively worse in almost every way. I can see about 3 options with how it’s gonna go:
> - Destiny 1 shaders that color the entire set - Destiny 2 shaders where we can color individual pieces where shaders are unlimited use - Destiny 2 shaders where we color individual pieces but the coatings are single use, like Destiny 2I just want the ability to choose my colors without hoping for RNJesus to grace me with a steel and sage coating, if it even exists that is. Because now the colors that people have used for years have a decent chance of not even being in the game. So I personally will not wait for more to come out before stating my immense dissatisfaction with this objectively worse system.

TBH I never played Destiny and I don’t know what a shader is, but I will say to the RNG point that I believe 343i confirmed no loot boxes or REQ packs in Infinite. That said, I don’t know if they have to only follow the three options like in Destiny or if they have their own unique approach, but I’ll wait before getting too upset.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ya know what? If this is what we get instead of REQ packs . . . I will just have to live with it. Because at least its only the textures that are being affected. You never know, maybe 343 will explain the system and people will suddenly love it. Because lets get real, would you rather have every armor locked behind a pay-wall? Or would you prefer to have colors behind a pay-wall? I personally would prefer for colors to be locked behind a pay-wall.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I’d rather unlock armor/colors by simply playing like I used for a game I ALREADY PAID FOR. Anything else is exorbitant greed.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Who says you can’t?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Sure hope that the color scheme you like isn’t behind a massive grind wall designed to frustrate you into just buying it for $5.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Come on people, use your heads, we’ve all seen how this F2P crap works.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Personally, I’m just more excited about the potential of armor coatings than mourning the loss of having primary colors. The potential of unique patterns, designs, effects, equipment, and more on your armor excites me too much to care about simple color schemes.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > “The Prophets are liars, but you are fools to do their bidding.”
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --Arbiter
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Meh, to me it seems more productive to be excited about the potential of a new direction than complain pointlessly online about a topic we don’t fully understand yet. Because remember, all this whining is from a paragraph and some screenshots.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why is blind support and hype “more productive” then being critical? Enjoying a product doesn’t mean you accept anything that is given to you simply because it has the name of that product on it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Where’s the blind support? It points to reason to wait to hear the full information before losing your mind over partial information and jumping to conclusions :slight_smile:
> > > >
> > > > But it’s not us jumping to conclusions that they took out classic customization in favor for shaders, many of which are confirmed to be paywalled, even if temporarily. There’s no speculation in those facts, and that is what we’re mad about.
>
> TBH I never played Destiny and I don’t know what a shader is, but I will say to the RNG point that I believe 343i confirmed no loot boxes or REQ packs in Infinite. That said, I don’t know if they have to only follow the three options like in Destiny or if they have their own unique approach, but I’ll wait before getting too upset.

They said no paid loot boxes. They did not say no loot boxes. You’ve got to read between the lines when they say things like that, because companies like 343 talk in marketing speak. They don’t really confirm or deny anything, they misdirect and avoid confirmation if they can.

Oh man, I can only imagine the lengths of monetization that 343 will go to. Maybe players who don’t purchase skins directly can only unlock them by lootboxes that can only be purchased for in-game currency that can’t be purchased, only earned. And then these lootboxes can sometimes give duplicates that are automatically turned into in-game currency. And it takes 5 hours to get the equivalent of a Silver REQ Pack and 10 hours to get the equivalent of a Gold REQ Pack. Of course it’s just speculation, but 343 has done nothing to reassure or address these concerns.

Hey 343, you’ve had almost a week to confirm or deny community suspicions and to reassure us that our concerns are overblown. Why haven’t you yet? Why haven’t you shown us what the system will be?

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The people defending 343i right now are the whales who spend thousands of dollars on req packs and are trying to justify it by dying on 343i’s hill. Who knows, maybe this blind loyalty will get them a discount on their purchase of the rainbow. Jokes aside, as of today i found out that not only is it colors that have been monetized, but emblems and challenges, if you still think you won’t be aggressively hounded by micro-transactions at this point, i don’t know what to say. I bet some of you people would be fine getting charged money for the bullets in your Battle rifle.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ya know what? If this is what we get instead of REQ packs . . . I will just have to live with it. Because at least its only the textures that are being affected. You never know, maybe 343 will explain the system and people will suddenly love it. Because lets get real, would you rather have every armor locked behind a pay-wall? Or would you prefer to have colors behind a pay-wall? I personally would prefer for colors to be locked behind a pay-wall.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I’d rather unlock armor/colors by simply playing like I used for a game I ALREADY PAID FOR. Anything else is exorbitant greed.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Who says you can’t?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Sure hope that the color scheme you like isn’t behind a massive grind wall designed to frustrate you into just buying it for $5.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Come on people, use your heads, we’ve all seen how this F2P crap works.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Personally, I’m just more excited about the potential of armor coatings than mourning the loss of having primary colors. The potential of unique patterns, designs, effects, equipment, and more on your armor excites me too much to care about simple color schemes.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > “The Prophets are liars, but you are fools to do their bidding.”
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --Arbiter
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Meh, to me it seems more productive to be excited about the potential of a new direction than complain pointlessly online about a topic we don’t fully understand yet. Because remember, all this whining is from a paragraph and some screenshots.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why is blind support and hype “more productive” then being critical? Enjoying a product doesn’t mean you accept anything that is given to you simply because it has the name of that product on it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Where’s the blind support? It points to reason to wait to hear the full information before losing your mind over partial information and jumping to conclusions :slight_smile:
> > > > >
> > > > > But it’s not us jumping to conclusions that they took out classic customization in favor for shaders, many of which are confirmed to be paywalled, even if temporarily. There’s no speculation in those facts, and that is what we’re mad about.
> >
> > TBH I never played Destiny and I don’t know what a shader is, but I will say to the RNG point that I believe 343i confirmed no loot boxes or REQ packs in Infinite. That said, I don’t know if they have to only follow the three options like in Destiny or if they have their own unique approach, but I’ll wait before getting too upset.
>
> They said no paid loot boxes. They did not say no loot boxes. You’ve got to read between the lines when they say things like that, because companies like 343 talk in marketing speak. They don’t really confirm or deny anything, they misdirect and avoid confirmation if they can.
>
> Oh man, I can only imagine the lengths of monetization that 343 will go to. Maybe players who don’t purchase skins directly can only unlock them by lootboxes that can only be purchased for in-game currency that can’t be purchased, only earned. And then these lootboxes can sometimes give duplicates that are automatically turned into in-game currency.
>
> Hey 343, you’ve had almost a week to confirm or deny community suspicions and to reassure us that our concerns are overblown. Why haven’t you yet? Why haven’t you shown us what the system will be?

You’re right, the full quote was “Halo Infinite will not have real-money microtransactions or loot boxes as part of its gameplay mechanics” so make of that what you will. I suspect with how poorly received REQ packs were that they won’t go in that direction, but that’s pure speculation on my part. Have to think without a big official response outside of some Uny tweets that 343i is cooking up some real content to tide us over. But that content could take days, or weeks… who knows anymore.

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> The people defending 343i right now are the whales who spend thousands of dollars on req packs and are trying to justify it by dying on 343i’s hill. Who knows, maybe this blind loyalty will get them a discount on their purchase of the rainbow. Jokes aside, as of today i found out that not only is it colors that have been monetized, but emblems and challenges, if you still think you won’t be aggressively hounded by micro-transactions at this point, i don’t know what to say. I bet some of you people would be fine getting charged money for the bullets in your Battle rifle.

Its sad but true this is clearly a dark year.

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> The people defending 343i right now are the whales who spend thousands of dollars on req packs and are trying to justify it by dying on 343i’s hill. Who knows, maybe this blind loyalty will get them a discount on their purchase of the rainbow. Jokes aside, as of today i found out that not only is it colors that have been monetized, but emblems and challenges, if you still think you won’t be aggressively hounded by micro-transactions at this point, i don’t know what to say. I bet some of you people would be fine getting charged money for the bullets in your Battle rifle.

Are you sure the people defending 343I aren’t the people that have played a varied more games and understand a direction the developer is trying to come across?

you would call anyone with an objective/mindset regarding this as a blind loyal fan I’d say to you have you played a game with a similar system? was there much concern within that game and you do know that Free to play multiplayer’s need a source of income as money doesn’t grow on trees and like most people who have played either a MMO or games as a service would see this kind of micro-transaction appearing along with other similar ideas.

also the idea that halo infinite would be some sort of farmineville cash grab and you’d be paying for each and every bullet like GTA 5 online for example is ridiculous as features and mechanics for it wouldn’t make any sense.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ya know what? If this is what we get instead of REQ packs . . . I will just have to live with it. Because at least its only the textures that are being affected. You never know, maybe 343 will explain the system and people will suddenly love it. Because lets get real, would you rather have every armor locked behind a pay-wall? Or would you prefer to have colors behind a pay-wall? I personally would prefer for colors to be locked behind a pay-wall.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I’d rather unlock armor/colors by simply playing like I used for a game I ALREADY PAID FOR. Anything else is exorbitant greed.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Who says you can’t?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Sure hope that the color scheme you like isn’t behind a massive grind wall designed to frustrate you into just buying it for $5.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Come on people, use your heads, we’ve all seen how this F2P crap works.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Personally, I’m just more excited about the potential of armor coatings than mourning the loss of having primary colors. The potential of unique patterns, designs, effects, equipment, and more on your armor excites me too much to care about simple color schemes.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > “The Prophets are liars, but you are fools to do their bidding.”
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --Arbiter
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Meh, to me it seems more productive to be excited about the potential of a new direction than complain pointlessly online about a topic we don’t fully understand yet. Because remember, all this whining is from a paragraph and some screenshots.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why is blind support and hype “more productive” then being critical? Enjoying a product doesn’t mean you accept anything that is given to you simply because it has the name of that product on it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Where’s the blind support? It points to reason to wait to hear the full information before losing your mind over partial information and jumping to conclusions :slight_smile:
> > > >
> > > > But it’s not us jumping to conclusions that they took out classic customization in favor for shaders, many of which are confirmed to be paywalled, even if temporarily. There’s no speculation in those facts, and that is what we’re mad about.
> > >
> > > Fair enough, but while they did confirm coatings would replace primary/secondary color options, we don’t know the full extent of what WILL be available. It could be better than what we had, it could be worse. We truly don’t know and I personally want to see what it is before panicking.
> >
> > Still pushing that, even though literally no one who isn’t a 343 stan is buying it?
> >
> > They’ve had a week now. If we’re wrong, they could say so. They haven’t said anything even as everything caught on fire, which only makes sense if we’re right, and they’re scrambling to come up with a way to address the community.
> >
> > Armor colors are going to be aggressively monetized. Period.
>
> This is where you’re misguided. If “we’re” wrong as if there is one, cohesive argument from people complaining. There isn’t. That is why often times companies don’t even address concerns from their fanbase, as they’re often scattered and baseless (as a lot of speculation in this thread is). Uny responded, and addressed some concerns along with saying more is coming soon. We’ll see what they say, but I suspect they don’t exactly want to jeopardize their marketing layout for panicking fans with no cohesive complaint apart from “I don’t like change”.
>
> As for “Armor colors are going to be aggressively monetized. Period”… this is basically only making the point I made above.

Liar.

Uny didn’t respond to -yoink-. Given the opportunity to clarify the system, to ad any details at all, he said “there will be non-purchase options available”, the hybrid system was off the table, and that they were “excited” about the new system.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ya know what? If this is what we get instead of REQ packs . . . I will just have to live with it. Because at least its only the textures that are being affected. You never know, maybe 343 will explain the system and people will suddenly love it. Because lets get real, would you rather have every armor locked behind a pay-wall? Or would you prefer to have colors behind a pay-wall? I personally would prefer for colors to be locked behind a pay-wall.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I’d rather unlock armor/colors by simply playing like I used for a game I ALREADY PAID FOR. Anything else is exorbitant greed.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Who says you can’t?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Sure hope that the color scheme you like isn’t behind a massive grind wall designed to frustrate you into just buying it for $5.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Come on people, use your heads, we’ve all seen how this F2P crap works.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Personally, I’m just more excited about the potential of armor coatings than mourning the loss of having primary colors. The potential of unique patterns, designs, effects, equipment, and more on your armor excites me too much to care about simple color schemes.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > “The Prophets are liars, but you are fools to do their bidding.”
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --Arbiter
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Meh, to me it seems more productive to be excited about the potential of a new direction than complain pointlessly online about a topic we don’t fully understand yet. Because remember, all this whining is from a paragraph and some screenshots.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why is blind support and hype “more productive” then being critical? Enjoying a product doesn’t mean you accept anything that is given to you simply because it has the name of that product on it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Where’s the blind support? It points to reason to wait to hear the full information before losing your mind over partial information and jumping to conclusions :slight_smile:
> > > > >
> > > > > But it’s not us jumping to conclusions that they took out classic customization in favor for shaders, many of which are confirmed to be paywalled, even if temporarily. There’s no speculation in those facts, and that is what we’re mad about.
> > > >
> > > > Fair enough, but while they did confirm coatings would replace primary/secondary color options, we don’t know the full extent of what WILL be available. It could be better than what we had, it could be worse. We truly don’t know and I personally want to see what it is before panicking.
> > >
> > > Still pushing that, even though literally no one who isn’t a 343 stan is buying it?
> > >
> > > They’ve had a week now. If we’re wrong, they could say so. They haven’t said anything even as everything caught on fire, which only makes sense if we’re right, and they’re scrambling to come up with a way to address the community.
> > >
> > > Armor colors are going to be aggressively monetized. Period.
> >
> > This is where you’re misguided. If “we’re” wrong as if there is one, cohesive argument from people complaining. There isn’t. That is why often times companies don’t even address concerns from their fanbase, as they’re often scattered and baseless (as a lot of speculation in this thread is). Uny responded, and addressed some concerns along with saying more is coming soon. We’ll see what they say, but I suspect they don’t exactly want to jeopardize their marketing layout for panicking fans with no cohesive complaint apart from “I don’t like change”.
> >
> > As for “Armor colors are going to be aggressively monetized. Period”… this is basically only making the point I made above.
>
> Liar.
>
> Uny didn’t respond to -yoink-. Given the opportunity to clarify the system, to ad any details at all, he said “there will be non-purchase options available”, the hybrid system was off the table, and that they were “excited” about the new system.

First off, relax. Second, you’re wrong. Unyshek made a thread on Twitter. Some of which you addressed:

  1. There will be many types of customizable options which can be earned in-game and as special rewards, some purchasable, othersnot.
  2. Hybrid system is not possible due to the technology behind how they are implementing coatings, saying he will try to give more info on this aspect soon
  3. He elaborated that coatings will enable them to “greater detail and variation with armor color, materials, patterns, etc”

Tell me again how Unyshek didn’t respond on Twitter to address some concerns? :slight_smile:

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> So the main thread was locked then redirected to another locked thread (this thread) because previous thread was redirected to the original locked thread. now redirected thread has been unlocked so im reposting to keep the discussion going on this new locked/unlocked thread.
>
> Just a theory but if you “read between the lines” I think it may have some merit to it:With the armor coating scandal out of the bag, I saw a few posts on whether this could implicate the removal of the traditional Red v Blue teams. Now from my understanding of Destiny 2, multiplayer for that game is kept with whatever custom armor you choose across the board. Now with these armor coatings being closely similar to the Destiny shader system, I think it would only be fair to say this might possibly be the end of Red v Blue teams as well and here is why.
>
> -343i latest update to the community said that these armor coatings are in fact replacing the traditional color your Spartan method
> -It has been proposed/brought up that you should be able to color your spartans based on the specific armor coating however since the marketing and layout of these are pretty much guaranteed; i came to the conclusion that if you “cant” choose your colors then the color system would be out of the window. IF the color system is out of the window and you cannot change the color of Armor Coatings then there wouldnt be an option in the game to do so THEREFORE if the option isnt there then 343i wouldnt have the ability to take armor coatings and make them into the traditional Red v Blue for team matchups (IE throwing red or blue over top of the coating to represent the team in team games). This would then fall in line with the theory of copying what Destiny has done with its multiplayer system. Hate to say it folks but the logic is there and pretty easy to follow…we might be saying RIP to the Red v Blue teams as well as personalizing Spartan color choices.

Crazy analysis. I did not expect this kind of drama coming on to the site tonight.

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> > So the main thread was locked then redirected to another locked thread (this thread) because previous thread was redirected to the original locked thread. now redirected thread has been unlocked so im reposting to keep the discussion going on this new locked/unlocked thread.
> >
> > Just a theory but if you “read between the lines” I think it may have some merit to it:With the armor coating scandal out of the bag, I saw a few posts on whether this could implicate the removal of the traditional Red v Blue teams. Now from my understanding of Destiny 2, multiplayer for that game is kept with whatever custom armor you choose across the board. Now with these armor coatings being closely similar to the Destiny shader system, I think it would only be fair to say this might possibly be the end of Red v Blue teams as well and here is why.
> >
> > -343i latest update to the community said that these armor coatings are in fact replacing the traditional color your Spartan method
> > -It has been proposed/brought up that you should be able to color your spartans based on the specific armor coating however since the marketing and layout of these are pretty much guaranteed; i came to the conclusion that if you “cant” choose your colors then the color system would be out of the window. IF the color system is out of the window and you cannot change the color of Armor Coatings then there wouldnt be an option in the game to do so THEREFORE if the option isnt there then 343i wouldnt have the ability to take armor coatings and make them into the traditional Red v Blue for team matchups (IE throwing red or blue over top of the coating to represent the team in team games). This would then fall in line with the theory of copying what Destiny has done with its multiplayer system. Hate to say it folks but the logic is there and pretty easy to follow…we might be saying RIP to the Red v Blue teams as well as personalizing Spartan color choices.
>
> Crazy analysis. I did not expect this kind of drama coming on to the site tonight.

not sure how much “drama” can be derived from a post clearly announced as speculation and theory??? especially with how many of these other posts ‘explode’

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’d rather unlock armor/colors by simply playing like I used for a game I ALREADY PAID FOR. Anything else is exorbitant greed.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Who says you can’t?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sure hope that the color scheme you like isn’t behind a massive grind wall designed to frustrate you into just buying it for $5.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Come on people, use your heads, we’ve all seen how this F2P crap works.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I’m just more excited about the potential of armor coatings than mourning the loss of having primary colors. The potential of unique patterns, designs, effects, equipment, and more on your armor excites me too much to care about simple color schemes.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > “The Prophets are liars, but you are fools to do their bidding.”
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --Arbiter
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Meh, to me it seems more productive to be excited about the potential of a new direction than complain pointlessly online about a topic we don’t fully understand yet. Because remember, all this whining is from a paragraph and some screenshots.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why is blind support and hype “more productive” then being critical? Enjoying a product doesn’t mean you accept anything that is given to you simply because it has the name of that product on it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Where’s the blind support? It points to reason to wait to hear the full information before losing your mind over partial information and jumping to conclusions :slight_smile:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But it’s not us jumping to conclusions that they took out classic customization in favor for shaders, many of which are confirmed to be paywalled, even if temporarily. There’s no speculation in those facts, and that is what we’re mad about.
> > > > >
> > > > > Fair enough, but while they did confirm coatings would replace primary/secondary color options, we don’t know the full extent of what WILL be available. It could be better than what we had, it could be worse. We truly don’t know and I personally want to see what it is before panicking.
> > > >
> > > > Still pushing that, even though literally no one who isn’t a 343 stan is buying it?
> > > >
> > > > They’ve had a week now. If we’re wrong, they could say so. They haven’t said anything even as everything caught on fire, which only makes sense if we’re right, and they’re scrambling to come up with a way to address the community.
> > > >
> > > > Armor colors are going to be aggressively monetized. Period.
> > >
> > > This is where you’re misguided. If “we’re” wrong as if there is one, cohesive argument from people complaining. There isn’t. That is why often times companies don’t even address concerns from their fanbase, as they’re often scattered and baseless (as a lot of speculation in this thread is). Uny responded, and addressed some concerns along with saying more is coming soon. We’ll see what they say, but I suspect they don’t exactly want to jeopardize their marketing layout for panicking fans with no cohesive complaint apart from “I don’t like change”.
> > >
> > > As for “Armor colors are going to be aggressively monetized. Period”… this is basically only making the point I made above.
> >
> > Liar.
> >
> > Uny didn’t respond to -yoink-. Given the opportunity to clarify the system, to ad any details at all, he said “there will be non-purchase options available”, the hybrid system was off the table, and that they were “excited” about the new system.
>
> First off, relax. Second, you’re wrong. Unyshek made a thread on Twitter. Some of which you addressed:
>
> 1. There will be many types of customizable options which can be earned in-game and as special rewards, some purchasable, othersnot.
> 2. Hybrid system is not possible due to the technology behind how they are implementing coatings, saying he will try to give more info on this aspect soon
> 3. He elaborated that coatings will enable them to “greater detail and variation with armor color, materials, patterns, etc”
>
> Tell me again how Unyshek didn’t respond on Twitter to address some concerns? :slight_smile:

Did… Did you just rephrase everything I said and imply that the meaning is somehow different?

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’d rather unlock armor/colors by simply playing like I used for a game I ALREADY PAID FOR. Anything else is exorbitant greed.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who says you can’t?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure hope that the color scheme you like isn’t behind a massive grind wall designed to frustrate you into just buying it for $5.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Come on people, use your heads, we’ve all seen how this F2P crap works.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I’m just more excited about the potential of armor coatings than mourning the loss of having primary colors. The potential of unique patterns, designs, effects, equipment, and more on your armor excites me too much to care about simple color schemes.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > “The Prophets are liars, but you are fools to do their bidding.”
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --Arbiter
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Meh, to me it seems more productive to be excited about the potential of a new direction than complain pointlessly online about a topic we don’t fully understand yet. Because remember, all this whining is from a paragraph and some screenshots.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Why is blind support and hype “more productive” then being critical? Enjoying a product doesn’t mean you accept anything that is given to you simply because it has the name of that product on it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Where’s the blind support? It points to reason to wait to hear the full information before losing your mind over partial information and jumping to conclusions :slight_smile:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But it’s not us jumping to conclusions that they took out classic customization in favor for shaders, many of which are confirmed to be paywalled, even if temporarily. There’s no speculation in those facts, and that is what we’re mad about.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fair enough, but while they did confirm coatings would replace primary/secondary color options, we don’t know the full extent of what WILL be available. It could be better than what we had, it could be worse. We truly don’t know and I personally want to see what it is before panicking.
> > > > >
> > > > > Still pushing that, even though literally no one who isn’t a 343 stan is buying it?
> > > > >
> > > > > They’ve had a week now. If we’re wrong, they could say so. They haven’t said anything even as everything caught on fire, which only makes sense if we’re right, and they’re scrambling to come up with a way to address the community.
> > > > >
> > > > > Armor colors are going to be aggressively monetized. Period.
> > > >
> > > > This is where you’re misguided. If “we’re” wrong as if there is one, cohesive argument from people complaining. There isn’t. That is why often times companies don’t even address concerns from their fanbase, as they’re often scattered and baseless (as a lot of speculation in this thread is). Uny responded, and addressed some concerns along with saying more is coming soon. We’ll see what they say, but I suspect they don’t exactly want to jeopardize their marketing layout for panicking fans with no cohesive complaint apart from “I don’t like change”.
> > > >
> > > > As for “Armor colors are going to be aggressively monetized. Period”… this is basically only making the point I made above.
> > >
> > > Liar.
> > >
> > > Uny didn’t respond to -yoink-. Given the opportunity to clarify the system, to ad any details at all, he said “there will be non-purchase options available”, the hybrid system was off the table, and that they were “excited” about the new system.
> >
> > First off, relax. Second, you’re wrong. Unyshek made a thread on Twitter. Some of which you addressed:
> >
> > 1. There will be many types of customizable options which can be earned in-game and as special rewards, some purchasable, othersnot.
> > 2. Hybrid system is not possible due to the technology behind how they are implementing coatings, saying he will try to give more info on this aspect soon
> > 3. He elaborated that coatings will enable them to “greater detail and variation with armor color, materials, patterns, etc”
> >
> > Tell me again how Unyshek didn’t respond on Twitter to address some concerns? :slight_smile:
>
> Did… Did you just rephrase everything I said and imply that the meaning is somehow different?

you may want to reread what you said when “Uny didn’t respond to -yoink-” quelly just gave you the exact details that were discussed rather than the very vague details you had said but also I’m sure uny did also say that they were hoping to share more information regarding the colouring system as and when they can.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ya know what? If this is what we get instead of REQ packs . . . I will just have to live with it. Because at least its only the textures that are being affected. You never know, maybe 343 will explain the system and people will suddenly love it. Because lets get real, would you rather have every armor locked behind a pay-wall? Or would you prefer to have colors behind a pay-wall? I personally would prefer for colors to be locked behind a pay-wall.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’d rather unlock armor/colors by simply playing like I used for a game I ALREADY PAID FOR. Anything else is exorbitant greed.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who says you can’t?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure hope that the color scheme you like isn’t behind a massive grind wall designed to frustrate you into just buying it for $5.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Come on people, use your heads, we’ve all seen how this F2P crap works.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I’m just more excited about the potential of armor coatings than mourning the loss of having primary colors. The potential of unique patterns, designs, effects, equipment, and more on your armor excites me too much to care about simple color schemes.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > “The Prophets are liars, but you are fools to do their bidding.”
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --Arbiter
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Meh, to me it seems more productive to be excited about the potential of a new direction than complain pointlessly online about a topic we don’t fully understand yet. Because remember, all this whining is from a paragraph and some screenshots.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Why is blind support and hype “more productive” then being critical? Enjoying a product doesn’t mean you accept anything that is given to you simply because it has the name of that product on it.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Where’s the blind support? It points to reason to wait to hear the full information before losing your mind over partial information and jumping to conclusions :slight_smile:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But it’s not us jumping to conclusions that they took out classic customization in favor for shaders, many of which are confirmed to be paywalled, even if temporarily. There’s no speculation in those facts, and that is what we’re mad about.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Fair enough, but while they did confirm coatings would replace primary/secondary color options, we don’t know the full extent of what WILL be available. It could be better than what we had, it could be worse. We truly don’t know and I personally want to see what it is before panicking.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Still pushing that, even though literally no one who isn’t a 343 stan is buying it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They’ve had a week now. If we’re wrong, they could say so. They haven’t said anything even as everything caught on fire, which only makes sense if we’re right, and they’re scrambling to come up with a way to address the community.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Armor colors are going to be aggressively monetized. Period.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is where you’re misguided. If “we’re” wrong as if there is one, cohesive argument from people complaining. There isn’t. That is why often times companies don’t even address concerns from their fanbase, as they’re often scattered and baseless (as a lot of speculation in this thread is). Uny responded, and addressed some concerns along with saying more is coming soon. We’ll see what they say, but I suspect they don’t exactly want to jeopardize their marketing layout for panicking fans with no cohesive complaint apart from “I don’t like change”.
> > > > >
> > > > > As for “Armor colors are going to be aggressively monetized. Period”… this is basically only making the point I made above.
> > > >
> > > > Liar.
> > > >
> > > > Uny didn’t respond to -yoink-. Given the opportunity to clarify the system, to ad any details at all, he said “there will be non-purchase options available”, the hybrid system was off the table, and that they were “excited” about the new system.
> > >
> > > First off, relax. Second, you’re wrong. Unyshek made a thread on Twitter. Some of which you addressed:
> > >
> > > 1. There will be many types of customizable options which can be earned in-game and as special rewards, some purchasable, othersnot.
> > > 2. Hybrid system is not possible due to the technology behind how they are implementing coatings, saying he will try to give more info on this aspect soon
> > > 3. He elaborated that coatings will enable them to “greater detail and variation with armor color, materials, patterns, etc”
> > >
> > > Tell me again how Unyshek didn’t respond on Twitter to address some concerns? :slight_smile:
> >
> > Did… Did you just rephrase everything I said and imply that the meaning is somehow different?
>
> you may want to reread what you said when “Uny didn’t respond to -yoink-” quelly just gave you the exact details that were discussed rather than the very vague details you had said but also I’m sure uny did also say that they were hoping to share more information regarding the colouring system as and when they can.

I can read twitter, quite well, thank you.
No official statement from 343 implies anything other than Infinite being mtx hell.

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> > > So the main thread was locked then redirected to another locked thread (this thread) because previous thread was redirected to the original locked thread. now redirected thread has been unlocked so im reposting to keep the discussion going on this new locked/unlocked thread.
> > >
> > > Just a theory but if you “read between the lines” I think it may have some merit to it:With the armor coating scandal out of the bag, I saw a few posts on whether this could implicate the removal of the traditional Red v Blue teams. Now from my understanding of Destiny 2, multiplayer for that game is kept with whatever custom armor you choose across the board. Now with these armor coatings being closely similar to the Destiny shader system, I think it would only be fair to say this might possibly be the end of Red v Blue teams as well and here is why.
> > >
> > > -343i latest update to the community said that these armor coatings are in fact replacing the traditional color your Spartan method
> > > -It has been proposed/brought up that you should be able to color your spartans based on the specific armor coating however since the marketing and layout of these are pretty much guaranteed; i came to the conclusion that if you “cant” choose your colors then the color system would be out of the window. IF the color system is out of the window and you cannot change the color of Armor Coatings then there wouldnt be an option in the game to do so THEREFORE if the option isnt there then 343i wouldnt have the ability to take armor coatings and make them into the traditional Red v Blue for team matchups (IE throwing red or blue over top of the coating to represent the team in team games). This would then fall in line with the theory of copying what Destiny has done with its multiplayer system. Hate to say it folks but the logic is there and pretty easy to follow…we might be saying RIP to the Red v Blue teams as well as personalizing Spartan color choices.
> >
> > Crazy analysis. I did not expect this kind of drama coming on to the site tonight.
>
> not sure how much “drama” can be derived from a post clearly announced as speculation and theory??? especially with how many of these other posts ‘explode’

The selective reading is what does it for me.

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> > > > So the main thread was locked then redirected to another locked thread (this thread) because previous thread was redirected to the original locked thread. now redirected thread has been unlocked so im reposting to keep the discussion going on this new locked/unlocked thread.
> > > >
> > > > Just a theory but if you “read between the lines” I think it may have some merit to it:With the armor coating scandal out of the bag, I saw a few posts on whether this could implicate the removal of the traditional Red v Blue teams. Now from my understanding of Destiny 2, multiplayer for that game is kept with whatever custom armor you choose across the board. Now with these armor coatings being closely similar to the Destiny shader system, I think it would only be fair to say this might possibly be the end of Red v Blue teams as well and here is why.
> > > >
> > > > -343i latest update to the community said that these armor coatings are in fact replacing the traditional color your Spartan method
> > > > -It has been proposed/brought up that you should be able to color your spartans based on the specific armor coating however since the marketing and layout of these are pretty much guaranteed; i came to the conclusion that if you “cant” choose your colors then the color system would be out of the window. IF the color system is out of the window and you cannot change the color of Armor Coatings then there wouldnt be an option in the game to do so THEREFORE if the option isnt there then 343i wouldnt have the ability to take armor coatings and make them into the traditional Red v Blue for team matchups (IE throwing red or blue over top of the coating to represent the team in team games). This would then fall in line with the theory of copying what Destiny has done with its multiplayer system. Hate to say it folks but the logic is there and pretty easy to follow…we might be saying RIP to the Red v Blue teams as well as personalizing Spartan color choices.
> > >
> > > Crazy analysis. I did not expect this kind of drama coming on to the site tonight.
> >
> > not sure how much “drama” can be derived from a post clearly announced as speculation and theory??? especially with how many of these other posts ‘explode’
>
> The selective reading is what does it for me.

Not sure if you’re implying ‘you’ have selective reading or what…troll along though

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> > > > > So the main thread was locked then redirected to another locked thread (this thread) because previous thread was redirected to the original locked thread. now redirected thread has been unlocked so im reposting to keep the discussion going on this new locked/unlocked thread.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just a theory but if you “read between the lines” I think it may have some merit to it:With the armor coating scandal out of the bag, I saw a few posts on whether this could implicate the removal of the traditional Red v Blue teams. Now from my understanding of Destiny 2, multiplayer for that game is kept with whatever custom armor you choose across the board. Now with these armor coatings being closely similar to the Destiny shader system, I think it would only be fair to say this might possibly be the end of Red v Blue teams as well and here is why.
> > > > >
> > > > > -343i latest update to the community said that these armor coatings are in fact replacing the traditional color your Spartan method
> > > > > -It has been proposed/brought up that you should be able to color your spartans based on the specific armor coating however since the marketing and layout of these are pretty much guaranteed; i came to the conclusion that if you “cant” choose your colors then the color system would be out of the window. IF the color system is out of the window and you cannot change the color of Armor Coatings then there wouldnt be an option in the game to do so THEREFORE if the option isnt there then 343i wouldnt have the ability to take armor coatings and make them into the traditional Red v Blue for team matchups (IE throwing red or blue over top of the coating to represent the team in team games). This would then fall in line with the theory of copying what Destiny has done with its multiplayer system. Hate to say it folks but the logic is there and pretty easy to follow…we might be saying RIP to the Red v Blue teams as well as personalizing Spartan color choices.
> > > >
> > > > Crazy analysis. I did not expect this kind of drama coming on to the site tonight.
> > >
> > > not sure how much “drama” can be derived from a post clearly announced as speculation and theory??? especially with how many of these other posts ‘explode’
> >
> > The selective reading is what does it for me.
>
> Not sure if you’re implying ‘you’ have selective reading or what…troll along though

No I’m just reading everyone else’s post and it seems to blow by any speculation or theory you announced.