> > > > Well its a good thing 343 listens to there community…
> > >
> > > Hopefully fame and success doesn’t get to their head like it did with Bungie.
> >
> > Yeah. I mean, you got to love Bungie, but they got such a big ego at the end. They said Reach was perfect and refused to fix it even though most of the community disagreed with them. They acted so smug because they were on the top of the world, then it all came crashing down on them.
> >
> > Oh well, maybe Bungie will learn from it and 343i won’t make the same mistake.
>
> They also got lazy with the multiplayer maps in my opinion… They took most of the them right out of the campaign. No maps were fresh or new… 343 made all the fresh maps with the dlc… Yea they did a good job with all the other halos but when they were at there peek… They started to lack… Grenades for example… never fixed…
But if it wasn’t for Microsoft, Halo3 or perhaps ODSt would have been Bungies last Halo game. Bungie is not all to blame, they were forced to create 2 more Halo games even though they wanted to move on from halo.
> > > > > Well its a good thing 343 listens to there community…
> > > >
> > > > Hopefully fame and success doesn’t get to their head like it did with Bungie.
> > >
> > > Yeah. I mean, you got to love Bungie, but they got such a big ego at the end. They said Reach was perfect and refused to fix it even though most of the community disagreed with them. They acted so smug because they were on the top of the world, then it all came crashing down on them.
> > >
> > > Oh well, maybe Bungie will learn from it and 343i won’t make the same mistake.
> >
> > They also got lazy with the multiplayer maps in my opinion… They took most of the them right out of the campaign. No maps were fresh or new… 343 made all the fresh maps with the dlc… Yea they did a good job with all the other halos but when they were at there peek… They started to lack… Grenades for example… never fixed…
>
> But if it wasn’t for Microsoft, Halo3 or perhaps ODSt would have been Bungies last Halo game. Bungie is not all to blame, they were forced to create 2 more Halo games even though they wanted to move on from halo.
microsoft pushed them to make more games? why though?
> > > > > > Well its a good thing 343 listens to there community…
> > > > >
> > > > > Hopefully fame and success doesn’t get to their head like it did with Bungie.
> > > >
> > > > Yeah. I mean, you got to love Bungie, but they got such a big ego at the end. They said Reach was perfect and refused to fix it even though most of the community disagreed with them. They acted so smug because they were on the top of the world, then it all came crashing down on them.
> > > >
> > > > Oh well, maybe Bungie will learn from it and 343i won’t make the same mistake.
> > >
> > > They also got lazy with the multiplayer maps in my opinion… They took most of the them right out of the campaign. No maps were fresh or new… 343 made all the fresh maps with the dlc… Yea they did a good job with all the other halos but when they were at there peek… They started to lack… Grenades for example… never fixed…
> >
> > But if it wasn’t for Microsoft, Halo3 or perhaps ODSt would have been Bungies last Halo game. Bungie is not all to blame, they were forced to create 2 more Halo games even though they wanted to move on from halo.
>
> microsoft pushed them to make more games? why though?
It was part of the deal. Two more Halo games and they could become independent.
> > > > > > > Well its a good thing 343 listens to there community…
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hopefully fame and success doesn’t get to their head like it did with Bungie.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah. I mean, you got to love Bungie, but they got such a big ego at the end. They said Reach was perfect and refused to fix it even though most of the community disagreed with them. They acted so smug because they were on the top of the world, then it all came crashing down on them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh well, maybe Bungie will learn from it and 343i won’t make the same mistake.
> > > >
> > > > They also got lazy with the multiplayer maps in my opinion… They took most of the them right out of the campaign. No maps were fresh or new… 343 made all the fresh maps with the dlc… Yea they did a good job with all the other halos but when they were at there peek… They started to lack… Grenades for example… never fixed…
> > >
> > > But if it wasn’t for Microsoft, Halo3 or perhaps ODSt would have been Bungies last Halo game. Bungie is not all to blame, they were forced to create 2 more Halo games even though they wanted to move on from halo.
> >
> > microsoft pushed them to make more games? why though?
>
> It was part of the deal. Two more Halo games and they could become independent.
aren’t they owned by activitsion now… sorry for my spelling
> > > > > > > > Well its a good thing 343 listens to there community…
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hopefully fame and success doesn’t get to their head like it did with Bungie.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah. I mean, you got to love Bungie, but they got such a big ego at the end. They said Reach was perfect and refused to fix it even though most of the community disagreed with them. They acted so smug because they were on the top of the world, then it all came crashing down on them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh well, maybe Bungie will learn from it and 343i won’t make the same mistake.
> > > > >
> > > > > They also got lazy with the multiplayer maps in my opinion… They took most of the them right out of the campaign. No maps were fresh or new… 343 made all the fresh maps with the dlc… Yea they did a good job with all the other halos but when they were at there peek… They started to lack… Grenades for example… never fixed…
> > > >
> > > > But if it wasn’t for Microsoft, Halo3 or perhaps ODSt would have been Bungies last Halo game. Bungie is not all to blame, they were forced to create 2 more Halo games even though they wanted to move on from halo.
> > >
> > > microsoft pushed them to make more games? why though?
> >
> > It was part of the deal. Two more Halo games and they could become independent.
>
> aren’t they owned by activitsion now… sorry for my spelling
Sadly yes
But that was after Halo:Reach, the 2nd game of their deal with Microsoft.
> > > > > > > > > Well its a good thing 343 listens to there community…
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hopefully fame and success doesn’t get to their head like it did with Bungie.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yeah. I mean, you got to love Bungie, but they got such a big ego at the end. They said Reach was perfect and refused to fix it even though most of the community disagreed with them. They acted so smug because they were on the top of the world, then it all came crashing down on them.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Oh well, maybe Bungie will learn from it and 343i won’t make the same mistake.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They also got lazy with the multiplayer maps in my opinion… They took most of the them right out of the campaign. No maps were fresh or new… 343 made all the fresh maps with the dlc… Yea they did a good job with all the other halos but when they were at there peek… They started to lack… Grenades for example… never fixed…
> > > > >
> > > > > But if it wasn’t for Microsoft, Halo3 or perhaps ODSt would have been Bungies last Halo game. Bungie is not all to blame, they were forced to create 2 more Halo games even though they wanted to move on from halo.
> > > >
> > > > microsoft pushed them to make more games? why though?
> > >
> > > It was part of the deal. Two more Halo games and they could become independent.
> >
> > aren’t they owned by activitsion now… sorry for my spelling
>
> Sadly yes
>
> But that was after Halo:Reach, the 2nd game of their deal with Microsoft.
I could see them being attached to a call of duty game… which would be bad…
> Sorry kiddies, this is the real world. You don’t get a gold star for participation and a pink flower for trying your best.
>
> If you do stupid Yoink!, you deserve to be berated endlessly for it. It’s the only way you’re not going to do the same crap again.
I’ve taken a few seminars here and that say though your first statement is very true, your second statement would indicate you feel negative reinforcement is more effective than positive.
> Sorry kiddies, this is the real world. You don’t get a gold star for participation and a pink flower for trying your best.
>
> If you do stupid Yoink!, you deserve to be berated endlessly for it. It’s the only way you’re not going to do the same crap again.
when ever i see a post from you… your always hating on something… If your soo keen why don’t you make a good game?
> > > > > > > > > > Well its a good thing 343 listens to there community…
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hopefully fame and success doesn’t get to their head like it did with Bungie.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yeah. I mean, you got to love Bungie, but they got such a big ego at the end. They said Reach was perfect and refused to fix it even though most of the community disagreed with them. They acted so smug because they were on the top of the world, then it all came crashing down on them.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Oh well, maybe Bungie will learn from it and 343i won’t make the same mistake.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > They also got lazy with the multiplayer maps in my opinion… They took most of the them right out of the campaign. No maps were fresh or new… 343 made all the fresh maps with the dlc… Yea they did a good job with all the other halos but when they were at there peek… They started to lack… Grenades for example… never fixed…
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But if it wasn’t for Microsoft, Halo3 or perhaps ODSt would have been Bungies last Halo game. Bungie is not all to blame, they were forced to create 2 more Halo games even though they wanted to move on from halo.
> > > > >
> > > > > microsoft pushed them to make more games? why though?
> > > >
> > > > It was part of the deal. Two more Halo games and they could become independent.
> > >
> > > aren’t they owned by activitsion now… sorry for my spelling
> >
> > Sadly yes
> >
> > But that was after Halo:Reach, the 2nd game of their deal with Microsoft.
>
> I could see them being attached to a call of duty game… which would be bad…
First of all please do not hurt my -Yoink!- ears by saying that.
But yeah that would be bad, however I am 100% sure that will not happen. Have you ever seen the details they showed about their next game? It was a picture with a turbine thingy and an emblem.
> > > > > > > > > > > Well its a good thing 343 listens to there community…
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hopefully fame and success doesn’t get to their head like it did with Bungie.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yeah. I mean, you got to love Bungie, but they got such a big ego at the end. They said Reach was perfect and refused to fix it even though most of the community disagreed with them. They acted so smug because they were on the top of the world, then it all came crashing down on them.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Oh well, maybe Bungie will learn from it and 343i won’t make the same mistake.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > They also got lazy with the multiplayer maps in my opinion… They took most of the them right out of the campaign. No maps were fresh or new… 343 made all the fresh maps with the dlc… Yea they did a good job with all the other halos but when they were at there peek… They started to lack… Grenades for example… never fixed…
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But if it wasn’t for Microsoft, Halo3 or perhaps ODSt would have been Bungies last Halo game. Bungie is not all to blame, they were forced to create 2 more Halo games even though they wanted to move on from halo.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > microsoft pushed them to make more games? why though?
> > > > >
> > > > > It was part of the deal. Two more Halo games and they could become independent.
> > > >
> > > > aren’t they owned by activitsion now… sorry for my spelling
> > >
> > > Sadly yes
> > >
> > > But that was after Halo:Reach, the 2nd game of their deal with Microsoft.
> >
> > I could see them being attached to a call of duty game… which would be bad…
>
> First of all please do not hurt my -Yoink!- ears by saying that.
>
> But yeah that would be bad, however I am 100% sure that will not happen. Have you ever seen the details they showed about their next game? It was a picture with a turbine thingy and an emblem.
lol sorry… No i have not, can you please send link to me?
> > Sorry kiddies, this is the real world. You don’t get a gold star for participation and a pink flower for trying your best.
> >
> > If you do stupid Yoink!, you deserve to be berated endlessly for it. It’s the only way you’re not going to do the same crap again.
>
> when ever i see a post from you… your always hating on something… If your soo keen why don’t you make a good game?
Oh look, it’s that response again.
I don’t need to know how to code a game to know how to make a good game.
I don’t need to jump off a bridge to know it’s a bad idea.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Well its a good thing 343 listens to there community…
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hopefully fame and success doesn’t get to their head like it did with Bungie.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Yeah. I mean, you got to love Bungie, but they got such a big ego at the end. They said Reach was perfect and refused to fix it even though most of the community disagreed with them. They acted so smug because they were on the top of the world, then it all came crashing down on them.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Oh well, maybe Bungie will learn from it and 343i won’t make the same mistake.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > They also got lazy with the multiplayer maps in my opinion… They took most of the them right out of the campaign. No maps were fresh or new… 343 made all the fresh maps with the dlc… Yea they did a good job with all the other halos but when they were at there peek… They started to lack… Grenades for example… never fixed…
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But if it wasn’t for Microsoft, Halo3 or perhaps ODSt would have been Bungies last Halo game. Bungie is not all to blame, they were forced to create 2 more Halo games even though they wanted to move on from halo.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > microsoft pushed them to make more games? why though?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It was part of the deal. Two more Halo games and they could become independent.
> > > > >
> > > > > aren’t they owned by activitsion now… sorry for my spelling
> > > >
> > > > Sadly yes
> > > >
> > > > But that was after Halo:Reach, the 2nd game of their deal with Microsoft.
> > >
> > > I could see them being attached to a call of duty game… which would be bad…
> >
> > First of all please do not hurt my -Yoink!- ears by saying that.
> >
> > But yeah that would be bad, however I am 100% sure that will not happen. Have you ever seen the details they showed about their next game? It was a picture with a turbine thingy and an emblem.
>
> lol sorry… No i have not, can you please send link to me?
> > Yep play nice, these people work really hard to make these games and we just complain
> > and troll and not be thankful.
>
> LOL.
>
> Last time I checked we didn’t get games for free , we owe them nothing.
If I understood you correctly, you wouldn’t care if we didn’t have these games at all, right? I mean, that’s exactly why we owe them everything, withoutgame developers we would have no games to play.
The fact that you dislike something, or know someone is wrong, doesn’t mean you have to be disrespectful to them. If you were in school, got an F from a mathematics exam, wouldn’t it feel depressing if your teacher came to tell you how badly you suck at mathematics and that you can’t even do the simplest calculations? You’d probably think the teacher is a total jerk, so would everyone else who aren’t even part of the whole situation. Now apply this to the current situation where you are the teacher and 343i is the pupil.
So instead of telling 343i how bad they are at game design if they make a few bad decisions, why wouldn’t you tell why their decisions were bad in a civilized tone? At the moment, no one would honestly take your opinion seriously seeing how much of a jerk you try to be.
On topic: it’s sad, but I’m rather sure that there are some people who feel like that towards Sage Merril, the sandbox designer of Reach. Luckily, they seem to be few in numbers. But indeed, we should never bash game developers for their mistakes but encourage them to become better at their job. There is no reason to be disrespectful, especially when you haven’t even made a single game yourself.
