We get it... now time for some real CTF!!!

We tried the new CTF. It has its pros and cons. The way point over the flag carrier is a joke. So when do we get classic CTF options? When will the way point over flag carrier option be fixed so we can actually turn it off?

Will we get any form of Assault?
Will we get any form of Single Flag?

Objectives feel very weak. The new CTF is far too simple to hold my interest. Just wondering when 343i plans to over up some more challenging and hardcore objective game types.

They need to reorganize CTF in general.

Have you played it 5v5 on Ragnarok yet?

2 Banshees, 2 Mantis, 2 Snipes, lasers/rockets, etc…

If the teams aren’t balanced it turns into a spawn camp fest real quick.

Did you happen to read the bulletin? It stated that the will have weekly updates, I’m sure eventually they will employment them. It hasn’t even been a week cool your jets.

You say that you want some more hardcore objective game types. Any game type has the potential to be competitive as long as you are matched against equally skilled players. I feel that the carrier beacon actually adds to the difficulty since you can’t simply sneak your way back. It encourages teamwork in the form of defending the carrier. It also leads to more frequent encounters which is always nice. I never liked those objective games that ended really quickly since nobody could find the carrier. But it was nice having the choice to use stealth when your team were all lone wolves running around like headless chickens.

> Did you happen to read the bulletin? It stated that the will have weekly updates, I’m sure eventually they will employment them. It hasn’t even been a week cool your jets.

Normally I would. But CTF options were intentionally held back to limit our choices when playing CTF. Maybe the most critical option of all, way point over flag carrier, doesn’t even work.

> They need to reorganize CTF in general.
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> Have you played it 5v5 on Ragnarok yet?
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> 2 Banshees, 2 Mantis, 2 Snipes, lasers/rockets, etc…
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> If the teams aren’t balanced it turns into a spawn camp fest real quick.

To me the biggest problem is there are too many vehicles and not enough power weapons to balance them out. Sure you have the laser but if you pick it up and it gets dropped it almost instantly disappears even if the ammo is full and the timer for it to respawn is way too long. Just my two cents.

> You say that you want some more hardcore objective game types. Any game type has the potential to be competitive as long as you are matched against equally skilled players. I feel that the carrier beacon actually adds to the difficulty since you can’t simply sneak your way back. It encourages teamwork in the form of defending the carrier. It also leads to more frequent encounters which is always nice. I never liked those objective games that ended really quickly since nobody could find the carrier. But it was nice having the choice to use stealth when your team were all lone wolves running around like headless chickens.

It removes options and limits the thought process. It feels far too simple to me. Grab the flag and take the shortest path or the path with the shortest lines of sight. Two entire options.

It hasn’t held my interest very long. For MM it may be okay. But custom game options are a must. And the options available should function properly.

> > They need to reorganize CTF in general.
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> > Have you played it 5v5 on Ragnarok yet?
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> > 2 Banshees, 2 Mantis, 2 Snipes, lasers/rockets, etc…
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> > If the teams aren’t balanced it turns into a spawn camp fest real quick.
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> To me the biggest problem is there are too many vehicles and not enough power weapons to balance them out. Sure you have the laser but if you pick it up and it gets dropped it almost instantly disappears even if the ammo is full and the timer for it to respawn is way too long. Just my two cents.

Dropped weapons seem to vanish very quickly. Too quickly.

I like the new CTF, it’d be perfect if you ask me. As long as you didn’t automatically pick up the flag that is…

Capture the flag is fine, along with automatic pick up. I actually find automatic pick up and defence with the pistol so much better.

> Capture the flag is fine, along with automatic pick up. I actually find automatic pick up and defence with the pistol so much better.

But very simple. And wanting options isn’t too much to ask… is it?

I would even be fine with the simple style being the main MM option. I just want custom games with traditional, deep, thoughtful CTF.

So I guess I must be simple-minded, because the CTF games I’ve played have been some of the most fun CTF games I’ve ever played

> So I guess I must be simple-minded, because the CTF games I’ve played have been some of the most fun CTF games I’ve ever played

I wouldn’t say that. Some people seem to really enjoy this streamlined version. But having play an embarrassing amount of great CTF in Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, and Reach(customs only) this version just doesn’t hold my interest.

It seems people don’t actually read OP’s anymore, since OP is asking for more custom options for CTF, and everyone is defending the current CTF, which has nothing to do with the topic…

OT: I agree. And in general, the custom options we got at launch certainly left much to be desired IMO.

> > Capture the flag is fine, along with automatic pick up. I actually find automatic pick up and defence with the pistol so much better.
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> But very simple. And wanting options isn’t too much to ask… is it?
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> I would even be fine with the simple style being the main MM option. I just want custom games with traditional, deep, thoughtful CTF.

Hey, I’m cool with that. I’m sure one day I’d love to play some classic CTF in customs.

I like the new CTF but the icon above you head that scream: “I’M OVER HERE!” is a little much. Also, being able to drop the flag would be nice.

I figure the reason for not dropping the flag is because of flag juggler’s but that is just how the game goes…

> > Did you happen to read the bulletin? It stated that the will have weekly updates, I’m sure eventually they will employment them. It hasn’t even been a week cool your jets.
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> Normally I would. But CTF options were intentionally held back to limit our choices when playing CTF. Maybe the most critical option of all, way point over flag carrier, doesn’t even work.

I’m not flaming you just saying some people have yet to experience it, not everyone loves it and not everyone hates it we just gotta wait it out and hope for the best, but everybody should at least get to try it before it gets thrown in an Objective playlist.

Id be fine if they put that stuff in for custom games. Love the way the new CTF plays. It actually requires effort now because I can’t just juggle the flag annoying every one in the game and use power weapons to take out the foes chasing me.

> Id be fine if they put that stuff in for custom games. Love the way the new CTF plays. It actually requires effort now because I can’t just juggle the flag annoying every one in the game and use power weapons to take out the foes chasing me.

Controlling the weapons is one of the layers that has been stripped away, adding to the simplicity.

I’m all for adding the options for customs. But i think the new CTF should be the only one for online play (not counting the MLG playlist assuming one gets made)