Lets get this out of the way first. This ISN’T a hate post. Yelling and crying won’t change anything. I’m not even sure 343 will see this and I don’t blame them not coming on to there own forums with everyone acting like so.
Now that’s over, time to get into this.
Halo 5 is good at being competitive but what if I want to lay back and play for lolz? You can’t… Well I can’t. BTB to weekly playlist are so sweaty I can’t find myself to play layed back and still enjoy the game. My highest CSR is onyx in Social Fiesta.
Social. Fiesta.
S o c i a l.
Not sure how I got onyx but I can say one thing, onyx players are not layed back players hah.
And to the few that will say “Just play warzone!”, I do and I enjoy it but even that gets hype to a point where I want to get competitive and can’t lay back and goof around.
So how can we go forward to make this better for the players? If possible, make it so there is no rank. Not just hide the rank, don’t add it. Add BTB maps into the mix. Make sure OBJ is there too! Make it fun, add team snipers/splasers/rockets/railguns you get the point. If reading that didn’t excite you then maybe SS isn’t for you
The only problem I can see is team size. I would have it at 5v5 but most arena maps are way small imo to hold that.
I don’t see this being an overnight thing and tomorrow we’ll wake up to a true social playlist but the acknowledgment from 343i saying the future we can expect something like this would be awesome.
So that being said, what else can we add/do to make this even better? Just remember that saying “343 is incompetent” or “H5 is trash” won’t make it better, the only way we can make it better is giving constructive feedback!
Ranking system is flawed and inconsistent and the aim assist/magnetism makes this game less challenging, and in doing so, less competitive to me. I often go back to MCC.
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> Ranking system is flawed and inconsistent and the aim assist/magnetism makes this game less challenging, and in doing so, less competitive to me. I often go back to MCC.
its very competitive if its easy for you then you would be champ 1 in everything
The whole point of playing a game… not just Halo, but EVERY game… is to try and win. You can still have fun and relax regardless, its all in your mindset. No matter if its a ranked or a social playlist, people are always going to complete the objective of the game and that is to win.
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> > Ranking system is flawed and inconsistent and the aim assist/magnetism makes this game less challenging, and in doing so, less competitive to me. I often go back to MCC.
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> its very competitive if its easy for you then you would be champ 1 in everything
“Inconsistent ranking.” Went 11-112 over 10 games in slayer, just to see, and got onyx. Having kills handed to you when you clearly miss isn’t competitive.
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> The whole point of playing a game… not just Halo, but EVERY game… is to try and win. You can still have fun and relax regardless, its all in your mindset. No matter if its a ranked or a social playlist, people are always going to complete the objective of the game and that is to win.
Of course! It’s honestly hard to explain this. Jump back to H3. Two slayer playlist but I could 100% go to social slayer for layed back fun. Winning wasn’t number one thing to me. Skill levels varied from n00b to pro but it was still fun for everyone.
I just feel it wouldn’t hurt to have a separate social playlist with a vast amount of slayer types(CE Magnum/shotty snipes/stickies/Melees etc) or OBJ(Sniper flag/rocket strong holds/Magnum Ball) you get the idea. Kinda like a action sack playlist.
Yeah sadly this is the reason I don’t play this game as much as past Halo’s. Being a " good player " means I’m not allowed to relax and have fun apparently
The best way I could describe Halo 5’s matchmaking for me personally would be like if Halo 3 didn’t have any social playlists and only had 6-7 ranked ones, and you were a high 47-50 In all of them, and that’s the only thing you could play, Nothing but stressful and competitive games. If that was the way it was back in H3 I wouldn’t be the Halo fan I am today
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> “Inconsistent ranking.” Went 11-112 over 10 games in slayer, just to see, and got onyx. Having kills handed to you when you clearly miss isn’t competitive.
Halo 4’s multiplayer had a reputation for ruining the competitive scene, so Halo 5 went all-out and pandered to the competitive scene entirely. It’s why they’re so adamantly pushing this E-sports thing when nobody really asked for it, and why every single Arena map is tiny and boring.
They gave us Warzone for the more average to casual playerbase, but that’s infected with tryhards too. Especially Warzone Assault.
I mean, when I think of non-competitive-focused or casual stuff, I don’t necessarily think of rockets and fiesta, but that’s what 343 seems to think it means. To me, it means mid-sized maps with the occasional light vehicle and a focus on fun gameplay instead of “competitive” gameplay that snubs creativity and variety in favor 100% fairness and watered-down simplicity.
Don’t get me wrong. Halo’s fun comes from the fact that it plays more competitively than all these CoD clones and has some actual depth of gameplay that allows people to utilize skills other than twitch reflexes. But Halo 5 is neglecting too much of the social side.
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> Actually the ranking system is incredibly balanced. This is a chart showing players highest rank attained for last season. So maybe your anecdotal evidence is misleading.
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Yeah that seems to be the only oddity in the ranks. I think it’s left over from season 1 when everyone was getting onyx in FFA, and has kept carrying over. Also, only having to finish in the top 3 to rank up makes is a bit easier in the chaos of FFA I think
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> So its too competitive because there’s a glitch that shows you your hidden rank on a social gametype?
It’s not a glitch, every playlist is ranked but some (BTB and Weekly playlist) are hidden because people asked for no rank. I may be wrong but I’m 99% sure I’m correct here. I just want a playlist I can go to that will 100% be layed back and enjoyable, so far H5 doesn’t have that playlist imo
If there’s no ranking system at all that means that if for some reason the planets align and the universe demands it, I can get 7 of my friends that I play in Onyx with and go match golds and less skilled people in BTB. Do you honestly that would be fair/fun for them? Honestly that wouldn’t even be fun for me. If I wanna go stomp on kids that can’t aim then I go play Warzone so for the love of god, the playlists are fine, leave it alone.
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> Yeah sadly this is the reason I don’t play this game as much as past Halo’s. Being a " good player " means I’m not allowed to relax and have fun apparently
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> The best way I could describe Halo 5’s matchmaking for me personally would be like if Halo 3 didn’t have any social playlists and only had 6-7 ranked ones, and you were a high 47-50 In all of them, and that’s the only thing you could play, Nothing but stressful and competitive games. If that was the way it was back in H3 I wouldn’t be the Halo fan I am today
Very well said. I feel this way too. Grifball BTB & Fiesta help me to relax a little bit and do more messing around with friends, but having an actual social playlist for Slayer called “Social Slayer” and “Social Objective” would make things better. I also loved Multi-Team from Halo 3. 2v2v2v2. I thought it was a blast. Idk how it would play on Halo 5 but either way it would just be a social screw around playlist.
Either way, we know they can’t implement ALL of the social playlists that we want. But having 5 or 6 ranked and then at least 4 or 5 social playlists would be nice.
My opinion- Drop fiesta and add it to social slayer.
Ranked:
Team Arena*
Team Slayer*
Team Snipers*
Breakout*
FFA*
SWAT* (Ranked…I guess)
**Social:**Social Slayer
Social Objective
BTB
Grifball
Infection (I don’t even want this one, but I know thousands are begging for it)
Onyx in Fiesta? I somehow got Diamond 2 in fiesta and I’ve only played maybe 5 games total including the last time it was out…? So I don’t know how that even works
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> It’s not a glitch, every playlist is ranked but some (BTB and Weekly playlist) are hidden because people asked for no rank. I may be wrong but I’m 99% sure I’m correct here. I just want a playlist I can go to that will 100% be layed back and enjoyable, so far H5 doesn’t have that playlist imo
Out of interest what does that actually mean? Genuine question.
For me, if i want to chillax and have fun, i go into custom games. There are a number of websites that advertise people setting up custom lobbies.
