We don't need ranks in Halo 4?

This video is a perfect example of why we need ranks in Halo 4. I’m sick of getting hate messages because my skill greatly exceeds other players. Although I do laugh at them it is very irritating. The guys in the vidoe at the end went as far as to call me a cheater. This PROVES that we need ranks. So anyway enjoy. :slight_smile: http://youtu.be/UchweAlo-xM

How does this have anything to do with ranks? This just shows some butthurt players.

> How does this have anything to do with ranks? This just shows some butthurt players.

Exactly! They’re mad because i did like 20x better then them. I want to play players of my skill. Not people who aren’t that good like these guys. If you watch the video all they did was use Active Camo the ENTIRE game. I’m sick of not having any challenge when I play playlist other than MLG. Still in MLG I get bad players on my team. The current ranking system doesn’t work at all.

> > How does this have anything to do with ranks? This just shows some butthurt players.
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> Exactly! They’re mad because i did like 20x better then them. I want to play players of my skill. Not people who aren’t that good like these guys. If you watch the video all they did was use Active Camo the ENTIRE game. I’m sick of not having any challenge when I play playlist other than MLG. Still in MLG I get bad players on my team. The current ranking system doesn’t work at all.

Oh, you mean being matched up with players of similar skill. Yeah, it gets kind of annoying when I have to play against people that are 10x more skilled than me, or 0.01x more skilled.

Just gonna throw this out there. I never had this problem in H3.

> This video is a perfect example of why we need ranks in Halo 4. I’m sick of getting hate messages because my skill greatly exceeds other players. Although I do laugh at them it is very irritating. The guys in the vidoe at the end went as far as to call me a cheater. This PROVES that we need ranks. So anyway enjoy. :slight_smile: http://youtu.be/UchweAlo-xM

No, it only proves we need trueskill matchmaking (something Halo Reach lacks). You do not need a visible skill rating for accurate matchmaking.

at this point of time i’m sure ranking will be in every halo game that will ever exist

343 would never get rid of ranks, ever.

> > This video is a perfect example of why we need ranks in Halo 4. I’m sick of getting hate messages because my skill greatly exceeds other players. Although I do laugh at them it is very irritating. The guys in the vidoe at the end went as far as to call me a cheater. This PROVES that we need ranks. So anyway enjoy. :slight_smile: http://youtu.be/UchweAlo-xM
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> No, it only proves we need trueskill matchmaking (something Halo Reach lacks). You do not need a visible skill rating for accurate matchmaking.

Yeah the Halo Reachranking system is what they said a true-skll ranking system is. It turned out to be an absolute disaster. An improved H2 or H3 ranking system would be the best solution.

> > > This video is a perfect example of why we need ranks in Halo 4. I’m sick of getting hate messages because my skill greatly exceeds other players. Although I do laugh at them it is very irritating. The guys in the vidoe at the end went as far as to call me a cheater. This PROVES that we need ranks. So anyway enjoy. :slight_smile: http://youtu.be/UchweAlo-xM
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> > No, it only proves we need trueskill matchmaking (something Halo Reach lacks). You do not need a visible skill rating for accurate matchmaking.
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> Yeah the Halo Reachranking system is what they said a true-skll ranking system is. It turned out to be an absolute disaster. An improved H2 or H3 ranking system would be the best solution.

They said Arena would use an un-tampered trueskill, but low populations have made that utterly useless. Try turning on the “skill” search restriction in high population playlists.

Halo 2 used ELO, and that will never return. Halo 3 used a watered down and horrible version of trueskill that should never return.

You didn’t even try to win the game, just keep the sniper. You’re a good sniper, but you didn’t try to capture the flag, which is the point of the game. The other team was pretty bad too. You obviously don’t cheat, you just camp with the sniper and use rockets when they get close. I know people who are better than you with th sniper, but you don’t ever die which is good. Also, this had absolutley nothing to do with ranks.

> > > > This video is a perfect example of why we need ranks in Halo 4. I’m sick of getting hate messages because my skill greatly exceeds other players. Although I do laugh at them it is very irritating. The guys in the vidoe at the end went as far as to call me a cheater. This PROVES that we need ranks. So anyway enjoy. :slight_smile: http://youtu.be/UchweAlo-xM
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> > > No, it only proves we need trueskill matchmaking (something Halo Reach lacks). You do not need a visible skill rating for accurate matchmaking.
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> > Yeah the Halo Reachranking system is what they said a true-skll ranking system is. It turned out to be an absolute disaster. An improved H2 or H3 ranking system would be the best solution.
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> They said Arena would use an un-tampered trueskill, but low populations have made that utterly useless. Try turning on the “skill” search restriction in high population playlists.
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> Halo 2 used ELO, and that will never return. Halo 3 used a watered down and horrible version of trueskill that should never return.

Well why dont they work on adding arena o more playlist? No one wants to constantly play teamslayer. Thats why i quit playing Arena. A majority of the community want 1-50 ranks back. Why not give it to us?

> > > > > This video is a perfect example of why we need ranks in Halo 4. I’m sick of getting hate messages because my skill greatly exceeds other players. Although I do laugh at them it is very irritating. The guys in the vidoe at the end went as far as to call me a cheater. This PROVES that we need ranks. So anyway enjoy. :slight_smile: http://youtu.be/UchweAlo-xM
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> > > > No, it only proves we need trueskill matchmaking (something Halo Reach lacks). You do not need a visible skill rating for accurate matchmaking.
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> > > Yeah the Halo Reachranking system is what they said a true-skll ranking system is. It turned out to be an absolute disaster. An improved H2 or H3 ranking system would be the best solution.
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> > They said Arena would use an un-tampered trueskill, but low populations have made that utterly useless. Try turning on the “skill” search restriction in high population playlists.
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> > Halo 2 used ELO, and that will never return. Halo 3 used a watered down and horrible version of trueskill that should never return.
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> Well why dont they work on adding arena o more playlist? No one wants to constantly play teamslayer. Thats why i quit playing Arena. <mark>A majority of the community want 1-50 ranks back. Why not give it to us?</mark>

There is not solid proof of this. The outcry for a return to that horrid system is not dissimilar from the outcry against it during Reach’s development.

I’m okay with a visual skill rating system returning, but it shouldn’t be 1-50, and it shouldn’t be tied to the player’s global rank.

I’m pretty sure slaying the other team and keeping them dead most of the time is helping out my team. Its not my fault that 3 other players can’t converge on a flag cap when I’m dominating the other team single handedly. And it does show why we need ranks. If I got match up with players of my skill level I wouldn’t have went 41-2 and the game would’ve been closer. Also I was jst trying to go for montage clips at the same time.

> I’m pretty sure slaying the other team and keeping them dead most of the time is helping out my team. Its not my fault that 3 other players can’t converge on a flag cap when I’m dominating the other team single handedly. And it does show why we need ranks. If I got match up with players of my skill level I wouldn’t have went 41-2 and the game would’ve been closer. Also I was jst trying to go for montage clips at the same time.

Again, you can easily have even matches without a visible skill rating. Almost every online game does this.

> > > > > > This video is a perfect example of why we need ranks in Halo 4. I’m sick of getting hate messages because my skill greatly exceeds other players. Although I do laugh at them it is very irritating. The guys in the vidoe at the end went as far as to call me a cheater. This PROVES that we need ranks. So anyway enjoy. :slight_smile: http://youtu.be/UchweAlo-xM
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> > > > > No, it only proves we need trueskill matchmaking (something Halo Reach lacks). You do not need a visible skill rating for accurate matchmaking.
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> > > > Yeah the Halo Reachranking system is what they said a true-skll ranking system is. It turned out to be an absolute disaster. An improved H2 or H3 ranking system would be the best solution.
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> > > They said Arena would use an un-tampered trueskill, but low populations have made that utterly useless. Try turning on the “skill” search restriction in high population playlists.
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> > > Halo 2 used ELO, and that will never return. Halo 3 used a watered down and horrible version of trueskill that should never return.
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> > Well why dont they work on adding arena o more playlist? No one wants to constantly play teamslayer. Thats why i quit playing Arena. <mark>A majority of the community want 1-50 ranks back. Why not give it to us?</mark>
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> There is not solid proof of this. The outcry for a return to that horrid system is not dissimilar from the outcry against it during Reach’s development.
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> I’m okay with a visual skill rating system returning, but it shouldn’t be 1-50, and it shouldn’t be tied to the player’s global rank.

I just want something that will help put me in better games so I can actually have competition. I started playing the multiplayer for its competetiveness. That has since been long gone with Reach. I pretty much play now just for fun and to get montage clips. Then get called a cheater for doing good.

> > I’m pretty sure slaying the other team and keeping them dead most of the time is helping out my team. Its not my fault that 3 other players can’t converge on a flag cap when I’m dominating the other team single handedly. And it does show why we need ranks. If I got match up with players of my skill level I wouldn’t have went 41-2 and the game would’ve been closer. Also I was jst trying to go for montage clips at the same time.
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> Again, you can easily have even matches without a visible skill rating. Almost every online game does this.

Thats the point Im trying to get to.

> > > > > > > This video is a perfect example of why we need ranks in Halo 4. I’m sick of getting hate messages because my skill greatly exceeds other players. Although I do laugh at them it is very irritating. The guys in the vidoe at the end went as far as to call me a cheater. This PROVES that we need ranks. So anyway enjoy. :slight_smile: http://youtu.be/UchweAlo-xM
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> > > > > > No, it only proves we need trueskill matchmaking (something Halo Reach lacks). You do not need a visible skill rating for accurate matchmaking.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah the Halo Reachranking system is what they said a true-skll ranking system is. It turned out to be an absolute disaster. An improved H2 or H3 ranking system would be the best solution.
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> > > > They said Arena would use an un-tampered trueskill, but low populations have made that utterly useless. Try turning on the “skill” search restriction in high population playlists.
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> > > > Halo 2 used ELO, and that will never return. Halo 3 used a watered down and horrible version of trueskill that should never return.
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> > > Well why dont they work on adding arena o more playlist? No one wants to constantly play teamslayer. Thats why i quit playing Arena. <mark>A majority of the community want 1-50 ranks back. Why not give it to us?</mark>
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> > There is not solid proof of this. The outcry for a return to that horrid system is not dissimilar from the outcry against it during Reach’s development.
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> > I’m okay with a visual skill rating system returning, but it shouldn’t be 1-50, and it shouldn’t be tied to the player’s global rank.
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> I just want something that will help put me in better games so I can actually have competition. I started playing the multiplayer for its competetiveness. That has since been long gone with Reach. I pretty much play now just for fun and to get montage clips. Then get called a cheater for doing good.

I understand your issues, and never believe the same isn’t true for less skilled players. I do not find it fun to be matches with players who can dominate me, or the reverse.

However, I have plenty of bad memories from Halo 3, and I remember plenty of players crying out against the 1-50 system during Halo 3 and during Reach’s development. For these reasons, either a new system should be implemented, on that does not link itself to a player’s rank, or visible skill rating should be phased out entirely. Most games with online multiplayer are able to match like-skilled players without the need of a visible skill rating, and Halo can do this, too.

As much as I would like to contribute to what looks like an interesting discussion, I simply couldn’t get past “my skill greatly exceeds other players”. Arrogance becomes no one, Mudkip Effect.

How is it arrogant if its true? My skill does exceed that of most of the players i get matched up with. It qite annoying.