Ways that noble six could have survived

Hello everyone

We all know that noble 6 died on reach, possibly, but I want to hear your idea(s) on how he could have survived reach. This is purely fictional and intended for entertainment. without further adieu, here’s my idea:

after being knocked to the ground in lone wolf, 6 sees that the elite zealot on his right is about to lunge at him with his energy dagger (or whatever its called) not having any alternative, he spins around and kicks the elite ultra on his left, making it fall where he once was, being stabbed in his place. 6 then jumps and grabs the zealots dropped energy sword and uses it to kill the zealot. he then sees a second zealot who was watching this entire battle as it happened, then grabs his knife and throws it at the last standing elite, hitting it in the leg, allowing 6 to walk over and finish it off. after this, he checks his surroundings. seeing that he is, once again, alone, he starts walking towards his objective, the old Saber launch site. once there, he finds a seraph in working condition, but its surrounded by a squad of elites. he uses a grenade to clear out most of them and uses a DMR to finish them off. he then takes the seraph and escapes reach.

Honestly there is no way Six could have survived. Yes, I know this is

> purely fictional and intended for entertainment

But, there is simply no way. And here’s the reasons.

  • The Planet is baved on radiation from the glassing. Now, cannonicaly, the Spartan’s armor can guarantee survival on radio-active areas, and the cold, dark space for about 30 minutes (If you’re wonderring, the space is about negative 500º degrees Celsius), but the amount of radiation, made it impossible for Six to be extracted by any UNSC personnel. Even if it was another Spartan. They would most likely die by the Covenant or by radiation.

> old Saber launch site. once there, he finds a seraph in working condition

Why would the Covenant use a human launch facility that is most likely baved in radiation, if they can build one in their own ships? - The Covenant swore to kill EVERY human in the planet. And so they did. Six was no exception. That’s why they still try to kill you in Lone Wolf. - Six fought the Covenant for hours non-stop, until the point of being extremely tired. You can see that he’s struggling to stand on his feet after he takes off his helmet in Lone Wolf. Tiredness makes you weaker. And after the Elite Zealot stabs Six with an overheated plasma blade, I don’t see how he could have survived that. Sure, he was stabbed once in the middle cutscene of Winter Contigency, however he wasn’t tired, hence why he was able to get up after being stabbed. - Six was being bombarded with anything, including Elite Generals, Elites wielding Energy Swords, Wraiths that are outside your playable space, Banshee’s that ignore you at first, but then they see that you mean business and start firing at you. How would you expect to survive that? It’s nearly impossible. - Keyes’ last words to Noble Six (face-to-face) are “Good luck to you too, Spartan”, indicating that he knows that Six, after his decision to sacrifice himself, would die.

> he then sees the field marshal who was watching this entire battle as it happened

According to lore, that Field Marshall you’re talking about was killed earlier, before Six used the MAC Gun to destroy the Covenant Cruiser. In one of the video of GameCheat13, Playable Cutscenes, it is shown to be an Elite Zealot.
EDIT: GameCheat13’s video I talked about does NOT show the ending cutscene for Lone Wolf. Instead he made a separate video about it. However it looks like he deleted the video. In Halo Nation’s article Lone Wolf (mission), it is described that it was a Spec-Ops Elite. I don’t know if it’s a Zealot or Spec-Ops, but it cannot be another class.

As much as it pains me to say it, I hope Noble Six died. He doesn’t deserve the awful fate of being turned into a novelty character like Buck who is only still around to remind us of when Halo was in it’s prime.

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> As much as it pains me to say it, I hope Noble Six died. He doesn’t deserve the awful fate of being turned into a novelty character like Buck who is only still around to remind us of when Halo was in it’s prime.

I agree with you, more than everything. His sacrifice made a major difference in the story, now let him rest as a hero.

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> But, there is simply no way. And here’s the reasons.
> - The Planet is baved on radiation from the glassing. Now, cannonicaly, the Spartan’s armor can guarantee survival on radio-active areas, and the cold, dark space for about 30 minutes (If you’re wonderring, the space is about negative 500º degrees Celsius), but the amount of radiation, made it impossible for Six to be extracted by any UNSC personnel. Even if it was another Spartan. They would most likely die by the Covenant or by radiation.
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> Why would the Covenant use a human launch facility that is most likely baved in radiation, if they can build one in their own ships? - The Covenant swore to kill EVERY human in the planet. And so they did. Six was no exception. That’s why they still try to kill you in Lone Wolf. - Six fought the Covenant for hours non-stop, until the point of being extremely tired. You can see that he’s struggling to stand on his feet after he takes off his helmet in Lone Wolf. Tiredness makes you weaker. And after the Elite Zealot stabs Six with an overheated plasma blade, I don’t see how he could have survived that. Sure, he was stabbed once in the middle cutscene of Winter Contigency, however he wasn’t tired, hence why he was able to get up after being stabbed. - Six was being bombarded with anything, including Elite Generals, Elites wielding Energy Swords, Wraiths that are outside your playable space, Banshee’s that ignore you at first, but then they see that you mean business and start firing at you. How would you expect to survive that? It’s nearly impossible. - Keyes’ last words to Noble Six (face-to-face) are “Good luck to you too, Spartan”, indicating that he knows that Six, after his decision to sacrifice himself, would die.
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> According to lore, that Field Marshall you’re talking about was killed earlier, before Six used the MAC Gun to destroy the Covenant Cruiser. In one of the video of GameCheat13, Playable Cutscenes, it is shown to be an Elite Zealot.
> EDIT: GameCheat13’s video I talked about does NOT show the ending cutscene for Lone Wolf. Instead he made a separate video about it. However it looks like he deleted the video. In Halo Nation’s article Lone Wolf (mission), it is described that it was a Spec-Ops Elite. I don’t know if it’s a Zealot or Spec-Ops, but it cannot be another class.

thanks for the info on the field Marshall, good to know that “the assassin of noble team” as I always called him didn’t actually survive reach
as for the radiation, im not sure if there was actually enough radiation to actually kill a human, yet alone a spartan:

  • if you look at the background details of lone wolf, you can see the launch site of the pillar of autumn, which looks to be about a mile, maybe two miles from the location of lone wolf, wish would take a spartan a minimum of 4.5 minutes to run (I did a quick google search, not the most accurate source, but its what im using atm, stating that spartans can run 34.2 MPH), so taking that, and adding the time it takes to down the covenant cruiser, Noble six was shaking hand with keyes on the ground around 20 minutes before lone wolf (based on my estimate) showing that there was not dangerous amounts of radiation at that time and it would be unlikely that that would change in 20 minutes.
  • in game, you can survive as long as you like in lone wolf if you find a glitch spot where you can’t be shot at
    So radiation doesn’t seem to be a large threat during the events of lone wolf. Also, they did not kill every human on reach, there are many notable survivors such as sgt. Johnson, spartan blue team, jun and keyes

my reasoning behind the covenant being at the saber launch site is that they were searching for relics, much like the zealots in winter contigency and the seraph is because seraphs were the main assault force on the station in “long night of solace” so after taking the station they may have had the seraphs holding the station. also I would have used Sabers in my idea but they aren’t capable of slip space.

my idea (and my response for that matter) may not be perfect since I don’t know every bit of halo lore but I’ll be willing to edit it every time you point out one of my mistakes, thank you very much

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> As much as it pains me to say it, I hope Noble Six died. He doesn’t deserve the awful fate of being turned into a novelty character like Buck who is only still around to remind us of when Halo was in it’s prime.

you know what, I agree, halo was great when bungie worked on it, 343 tainted that greatness to cater to “the new generation”

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That is mainly because the Covenant Cruiser that was going to glass the area was destroyed by Noble Six. Even if radiation was present, it would be very minimal. Radiation also takes time to spread, but is very long-lasting. The cities of Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Pripyat (the city that suffered from the disaster of Chernobyl) are all still full of radiation to this day. Also, I think the Covenant really only glassed parts of the planet that contained human life.

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> So radiation doesn’t seem to be a large threat during the events of lone wolf. Also, they did not kill every human on reach, there are many notable survivors such as sgt. Johnson, spartan blue team, jun and keyes

You know that there is actually a limit in Lone Wolf? Most of the community don’t know, but if you survive long enough in the level, it will end automatically. It’s not really much, since it shows the same cutscene when you “die”, but at least you do accomplish the objective of surviving.
No, in fact, radiation is no threat at all in Lone Wolf. I said they swore to kill every human life in Reach. And I mean leave no life behind in the planet. This doesn’t necessaily mean that everyone that stepped on the planet has to die, no. Everyone can escape if possible, but the Covenant simply wanted to wipe human life out of the planet.

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> > my idea (and my response for that matter) may not be perfect since I don’t know every bit of halo lore but I’ll be willing to edit it every time you point out one of my mistakes, thank you very much

That’s actually not a bad idea, however one of the reasons that the Covenant attacked the base was to capture or destroy the experimental Sabres, all according to Halo Nation. Sabre Program Launch/Research Range | Halo Alpha | Fandom

All 6 Members of Noble Team are Listed as M.I.A. Spartans Never Die!

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> All 6 Members of Noble Team are Listed as M.I.A. Spartans Never Die!

Except Jun. Jun is the only survivor of Noble Team. He retired and became a recruiter of Spartan-IVs. He’s also the reason why Buck and Alpha Nine are Spartan IVs.

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actually (and Im just stating my theory, i could be very wrong) Jorge may still be alive, just teleported into deep unknown space, like 117 after halo 3 (i don’t know much about the slip space “bomb” that was detonated but it could have just teleported the ship segment that he was in)

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> You know that there is actually a limit in Lone Wolf? Most of the community don’t know, but if you survive long enough in the level, it will end automatically. It’s not really much, since it shows the same cutscene when you “die”, but at least you do accomplish the objective of surviving.
> No, in fact, radiation is no threat at all in Lone Wolf. I said they swore to kill every human life in Reach. And I mean leave no life behind in the planet. This doesn’t necessaily mean that everyone that stepped on the planet has to die, no. Everyone can escape if possible, but the Covenant simply wanted to wipe human life out of the planet.
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> That’s actually not a bad idea, however one of the reasons that the Covenant attacked the base was to capture or destroy the experimental Sabres, all according to Halo Nation. Sabre Program Launch/Research Range | Halo Alpha | Fandom

  • first off, conversations like this are what make me come back to the forums, The knowledge, the communication, its all great, thank you for helping me learn about my favorite series so much.

  • second: the ship breaking yard wouldn’t be high on the covenants glassing list because, A: it contained technology that they could later study to help them get the upper hand, B: it isn’t a massive population center or major military base like sword base or New Alexandria, C: the only reason they sent a cruiser there, the pillar of autumn, is now gone and they sent a chunk of their ships, not a major chunk but a few ships in the area, after it and the ships that remained were elsewhere and D: (wow that looks like a shocked face…) its pretty much a dry abandoned wasteland as it is, why glass a deserted wasteland? even if it is to kill a spartan, seems like a major waste of resources…

third: there’s a grenade launcher in lone wolf, as well as the hundreds of plasma pistols lying around, six could just grab one, take down a banshee, hijack (or skyjack) it and be on his marry way to the saber launch site with added protection from the radiation bombardment, which for the most part, would be close to the ground (since the ship which is the source of radiation is on the ground),

*forth: I’d wager that there’s atleast one seraph, maybe even a phantom on board that crashed ship that noble 6 could steal, (I don’t know why I didn’t think of this before, corvettes have seraphs on them, maybe there’s a functioning one of the cruiser…)

*fifth: im sure that if I could clear out a corvette on legendary, alone, then N6 would be able to clear one out again, maybe even a cruiser, he could find one, board it, take it over (somehow) and once again be off of reach with a slipspace capable ship.

I hope that this proves that it is possible for some “1% scenario” for 6 to survive, and if 343 is reading this? make it happen, Johnson survived the pillar out autumns detonation (I know that there’s some special piece of lure that allows Johnson to survive through the all mighty power of space magic, but the only halo book I’ve read so far is contact harvest), im sure that 6 could have gotten off reach.

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> > You know that there is actually a limit in Lone Wolf? Most of the community don’t know, but if you survive long enough in the level, it will end automatically. It’s not really much, since it shows the same cutscene when you “die”, but at least you do accomplish the objective of surviving.
> > No, in fact, radiation is no threat at all in Lone Wolf. I said they swore to kill every human life in Reach. And I mean leave no life behind in the planet. This doesn’t necessaily mean that everyone that stepped on the planet has to die, no. Everyone can escape if possible, but the Covenant simply wanted to wipe human life out of the planet.
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> > > > my reasoning behind the covenant being at the saber launch site is that they were searching for relics, much like the zealots in winter contigency and the seraph is because seraphs were the main assault force on the station in “long night of solace” so after taking the station they may have had the seraphs holding the station. also I would have used Sabers in my idea but they aren’t capable of slip space.
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> > > > my idea (and my response for that matter) may not be perfect since I don’t know every bit of halo lore but I’ll be willing to edit it every time you point out one of my mistakes, thank you very much
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> > That’s actually not a bad idea, however one of the reasons that the Covenant attacked the base was to capture or destroy the experimental Sabres, all according to Halo Nation. Sabre Program Launch/Research Range | Halo Alpha | Fandom
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> * first off, conversations like this are what make me come back to the forums, The knowledge, the communication, its all great, thank you for helping me learn about my favorite series so much.
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> * second: the ship breaking yard wouldn’t be high on the covenants glassing list because, A: it contained technology that they could later study to help them get the upper hand, B: it isn’t a massive population center or major military base like sword base or New Alexandria, C: the only reason they sent a cruiser there, the pillar of autumn, is now gone and they sent a chunk of their ships, not a major chunk but a few ships in the area, after it and the ships that remained were elsewhere and D: (wow that looks like a shocked face…) its pretty much a dry abandoned wasteland as it is, why glass a deserted wasteland? even if it is to kill a spartan, seems like a major waste of resources…
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> third: there’s a grenade launcher in lone wolf, as well as the hundreds of plasma pistols lying around, six could just grab one, take down a banshee, hijack (or skyjack) it and be on his marry way to the saber launch site with added protection from the radiation bombardment, which for the most part, would be close to the ground (since the ship which is the source of radiation is on the ground),
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> *forth: I’d wager that there’s atleast one seraph, maybe even a phantom on board that crashed ship that noble 6 could steal, (I don’t know why I didn’t think of this before, corvettes have seraphs on them, maybe there’s a functioning one of the cruiser…)
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> *fifth: im sure that if I could clear out a corvette on legendary, alone, then N6 would be able to clear one out again, maybe even a cruiser, he could find one, board it, take it over (somehow) and once again be off of reach with a slipspace capable ship.
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> I hope that this proves that it is possible for some “1% scenario” for 6 to survive, and if 343 is reading this? make it happen, Johnson survived the pillar out autumns detonation (I know that there’s some special piece of lure that allows Johnson to survive through the all mighty power of space magic, but the only halo book I’ve read so far is contact harvest), im sure that 6 could have gotten off reach.

Sounds cool and all… But the OPENING for Reach shows the Entire area where 6’s Helmet is, is COMPLETELY Obliterated.
Johnson Survived Alpha Halo, Simply because Halo 2 Originally, Wasnt going to be Made (some of us had the Original Game Play Beta on our Original Halo). But, a bunch of the Details people are Missing, are inn the Halo Books.

I Must Note that Noble 6 is the Only Spartan, that we are Never given an Identification Number for.
I always Assumed this was to Represent Us (the Player) from beginning to End. So, in my Opinion, if YOU think 6 Survived, that is up to You.

Master chief should’ve come out of crio earlier to help him on that last mission so he could make it to the pillar of autum on time…imagine noble six and chief working together? That would’ve been so cool to see.

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> I Must Note that Noble 6 is the Only Spartan, that we are Never given an Identification Number for.
> I always Assumed this was to Represent Us (the Player) from beginning to End. So, in my Opinion, if YOU think 6 Survived, that is up to You.

Actually, his identification tag is B-312. Noble Six is meant to be us, to a degree. He is a character with dialogue.

I think Rookie from ODST was meant to be us completely.

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> > You know that there is actually a limit in Lone Wolf? Most of the community don’t know, but if you survive long enough in the level, it will end automatically. It’s not really much, since it shows the same cutscene when you “die”, but at least you do accomplish the objective of surviving.
> > No, in fact, radiation is no threat at all in Lone Wolf. I said they swore to kill every human life in Reach. And I mean leave no life behind in the planet. This doesn’t necessaily mean that everyone that stepped on the planet has to die, no. Everyone can escape if possible, but the Covenant simply wanted to wipe human life out of the planet.
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> > > > my reasoning behind the covenant being at the saber launch site is that they were searching for relics, much like the zealots in winter contigency and the seraph is because seraphs were the main assault force on the station in “long night of solace” so after taking the station they may have had the seraphs holding the station. also I would have used Sabers in my idea but they aren’t capable of slip space.
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> > > > my idea (and my response for that matter) may not be perfect since I don’t know every bit of halo lore but I’ll be willing to edit it every time you point out one of my mistakes, thank you very much
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> > That’s actually not a bad idea, however one of the reasons that the Covenant attacked the base was to capture or destroy the experimental Sabres, all according to Halo Nation. Sabre Program Launch/Research Range | Halo Alpha | Fandom
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> * first off, conversations like this are what make me come back to the forums, The knowledge, the communication, its all great, thank you for helping me learn about my favorite series so much.
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> * second: the ship breaking yard wouldn’t be high on the covenants glassing list because, A: it contained technology that they could later study to help them get the upper hand, B: it isn’t a massive population center or major military base like sword base or New Alexandria, C: the only reason they sent a cruiser there, the pillar of autumn, is now gone and they sent a chunk of their ships, not a major chunk but a few ships in the area, after it and the ships that remained were elsewhere and D: (wow that looks like a shocked face…) its pretty much a dry abandoned wasteland as it is, why glass a deserted wasteland? even if it is to kill a spartan, seems like a major waste of resources…
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> third: there’s a grenade launcher in lone wolf, as well as the hundreds of plasma pistols lying around, six could just grab one, take down a banshee, hijack (or skyjack) it and be on his marry way to the saber launch site with added protection from the radiation bombardment, which for the most part, would be close to the ground (since the ship which is the source of radiation is on the ground),
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> *forth: I’d wager that there’s atleast one seraph, maybe even a phantom on board that crashed ship that noble 6 could steal, (I don’t know why I didn’t think of this before, corvettes have seraphs on them, maybe there’s a functioning one of the cruiser…)
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> *fifth: im sure that if I could clear out a corvette on legendary, alone, then N6 would be able to clear one out again, maybe even a cruiser, he could find one, board it, take it over (somehow) and once again be off of reach with a slipspace capable ship.
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> I hope that this proves that it is possible for some “1% scenario” for 6 to survive, and if 343 is reading this? make it happen, Johnson survived the pillar out autumns detonation (I know that there’s some special piece of lure that allows Johnson to survive through the all mighty power of space magic, but the only halo book I’ve read so far is contact harvest), im sure that 6 could have gotten off reach.

1: We’re 2 then :slight_smile:
2: A: The Covenant’s technology is way more advanced than the Humans, being at like Tier 2, all mainly because of the Elites. Excluding the Ancient Humans, Forerunners and Precursors, they we’re the first specie to develop slip-space technology, near invisibility, plasma-based weaponry, weapons that can react to their target (like the Needler), etc. Halo: Fall of Reach animated series Spoilers…

They’re also smart enough to develop a shield so strong that it can withstand a nuclear warhead, and have no scratches at all.You can also see how the UNSC Savannah was easily destroyed by the Corvette in Long Night of Solace.
B\C: Yes, it might be deserted, but remember that there was a Halcyon-class cruiser docked there, and many UNSC Marines. In my opinion, if I we’re a Sangheili, I would glass that area, to quickly dispatch of the humans, with extreme ease.
D: Explained
3: Yes, many weapons we’re scattered throughout the battlefield, however, there we’re way too many enemies. Even if Six could kill those Elites in the ending cutscene for Lone Wolf, more would appear, and kill him. Six was also too tired to even stand on his feet (noticeable after “dying” in Lone Wolf), so skyjacking a Banshee would be near impossible.
4: Explained in 3.
5: The cannon difficulty is Heroic. You do know that a CCS-class cruiser is way bigger than a SDV-class Corvette, right? Six was able to clear out the Corvette’s crew during Operation: Upper Cut, because he had back-up, and could prepare himself for the next engagement. Taking a Corvette by himself is way harder. Also, how would he even be able to board one?

That “1%” scenario might be right. Also, please don’t beg for 343 to read it, please.
SPOILER ALERT FOR JOHNSON’S SURVIVAL ON ALPHA HALO

The cutscene that plays when you complete the Maw on Legendary is non-cannon, it’s just an easter-egg. He actually escaped the ring in a Pelican with other marines. Didn’t read the books, had to search on the Internet. (Can’t find Halo novels here on portugal because everyone here is PS fanboy lmao).

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> > > > showing that there was not dangerous amounts of radiation at that time and it would be unlikely that that would change in 20 minutes.
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> > > That is mainly because the Covenant Cruiser that was going to glass the area was destroyed by Noble Six. Even if radiation was present, it would be very minimal. Radiation also takes time to spread, but is very long-lasting. The cities of Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Pripyat (the city that suffered from the disaster of Chernobyl) are all still full of radiation to this day. Also, I think the Covenant really only glassed parts of the planet that contained human life.
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> > > > - in game, you can survive as long as you like in lone wolf if you find a glitch spot where you can’t be shot at
> > > > So radiation doesn’t seem to be a large threat during the events of lone wolf. Also, they did not kill every human on reach, there are many notable survivors such as sgt. Johnson, spartan blue team, jun and keyes
> > >
> > > You know that there is actually a limit in Lone Wolf? Most of the community don’t know, but if you survive long enough in the level, it will end automatically. It’s not really much, since it shows the same cutscene when you “die”, but at least you do accomplish the objective of surviving.
> > > No, in fact, radiation is no threat at all in Lone Wolf. I said they swore to kill every human life in Reach. And I mean leave no life behind in the planet. This doesn’t necessaily mean that everyone that stepped on the planet has to die, no. Everyone can escape if possible, but the Covenant simply wanted to wipe human life out of the planet.
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> > > > > (I didn’ wrote this lol)
> > > > > my reasoning behind the covenant being at the saber launch site is that they were searching for relics, much like the zealots in winter contigency and the seraph is because seraphs were the main assault force on the station in “long night of solace” so after taking the station they may have had the seraphs holding the station. also I would have used Sabers in my idea but they aren’t capable of slip space.
> > > > >
> > > > > my idea (and my response for that matter) may not be perfect since I don’t know every bit of halo lore but I’ll be willing to edit it every time you point out one of my mistakes, thank you very much
> > >
> > > That’s actually not a bad idea, however one of the reasons that the Covenant attacked the base was to capture or destroy the experimental Sabres, all according to Halo Nation. Sabre Program Launch/Research Range | Halo Alpha | Fandom
> >
> > * first off, conversations like this are what make me come back to the forums, The knowledge, the communication, its all great, thank you for helping me learn about my favorite series so much.
> >
> > * second: the ship breaking yard wouldn’t be high on the covenants glassing list because, A: it contained technology that they could later study to help them get the upper hand, B: it isn’t a massive population center or major military base like sword base or New Alexandria, C: the only reason they sent a cruiser there, the pillar of autumn, is now gone and they sent a chunk of their ships, not a major chunk but a few ships in the area, after it and the ships that remained were elsewhere and D: (wow that looks like a shocked face…) its pretty much a dry abandoned wasteland as it is, why glass a deserted wasteland? even if it is to kill a spartan, seems like a major waste of resources…
> >
> > third: there’s a grenade launcher in lone wolf, as well as the hundreds of plasma pistols lying around, six could just grab one, take down a banshee, hijack (or skyjack) it and be on his marry way to the saber launch site with added protection from the radiation bombardment, which for the most part, would be close to the ground (since the ship which is the source of radiation is on the ground),
> >
> > *forth: I’d wager that there’s atleast one seraph, maybe even a phantom on board that crashed ship that noble 6 could steal, (I don’t know why I didn’t think of this before, corvettes have seraphs on them, maybe there’s a functioning one of the cruiser…)
> >
> > *fifth: im sure that if I could clear out a corvette on legendary, alone, then N6 would be able to clear one out again, maybe even a cruiser, he could find one, board it, take it over (somehow) and once again be off of reach with a slipspace capable ship.
> >
> > I hope that this proves that it is possible for some “1% scenario” for 6 to survive, and if 343 is reading this? make it happen, Johnson survived the pillar out autumns detonation (I know that there’s some special piece of lure that allows Johnson to survive through the all mighty power of space magic, but the only halo book I’ve read so far is contact harvest), im sure that 6 could have gotten off reach.
>
> 1: We’re 2 then :slight_smile:
> 2: A: The Covenant’s technology is way more advanced than the Humans, being at like Tier 2, all mainly because of the Elites. Excluding the Ancient Humans, Forerunners and Precursors, they we’re the first specie to develop slip-space technology, near invisibility, plasma-based weaponry, weapons that can react to their target (like the Needler), etc. Halo: Fall of Reach animated series Spoilers…
> They’re also smart enough to develop a shield so strong that it can withstand a nuclear warhead, and have no scratches at all.You can also see how the UNSC Savannah was easily destroyed by the Corvette in Long Night of Solace.
> B\C: Yes, it might be deserted, but remember that there was a Halcyon-class cruiser docked there, and many UNSC Marines. In my opinion, if I we’re a Sangheili, I would glass that area, to quickly dispatch of the humans, with extreme ease.
> D: Explained
> 3: Yes, many weapons we’re scattered throughout the battlefield, however, there we’re way too many enemies. Even if Six could kill those Elites in the ending cutscene for Lone Wolf, more would appear, and kill him. Six was also too tired to even stand on his feet (noticeable after “dying” in Lone Wolf), so skyjacking a Banshee would be near impossible.
> 4: Explained in 3.
> 5: The cannon difficulty is Heroic. You do know that a CCS-class cruiser is way bigger than a SDV-class Corvette, right? Six was able to clear out the Corvette’s crew during Operation: Upper Cut, because he had back-up, and could prepare himself for the next engagement. Taking a Corvette by himself is way harder. Also, how would he even be able to board one?
>
> That “1%” scenario might be right. Also, please don’t beg for 343 to read it, please.
> SPOILER ALERT FOR JOHNSON’S SURVIVAL ON ALPHA HALO
> The cutscene that plays when you complete the Maw on Legendary is non-cannon, it’s just an easter-egg. He actually escaped the ring in a Pelican with other marines. Didn’t read the books, had to search on the Internet. (Can’t find Halo novels here on portugal because everyone here is PS fanboy lmao).

Also, to add to this… The Original plan for the Master Chief after leaving Reach SPOILER Was to Steal a Covenant Cruiser and Dock at High Charity. This was Put Off when the Pillar of Autumn makes the Random Slipspace Jump, that landed then at. alpha Halo (installation 3).
So, when we end Up in Halo 2, finally on High Charity (thanks to the Gravemind) the Chief finds the Perfect opportunity to Finally Fulfill his MAIN Mission. So, Without 6’s SACRIFICE… Humanity wouldn’t have Survived.

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> > I Must Note that Noble 6 is the Only Spartan, that we are Never given an Identification Number for.
> > I always Assumed this was to Represent Us (the Player) from beginning to End. So, in my Opinion, if YOU think 6 Survived, that is up to You.
>
> Actually, his identification tag is B-312. Noble Six is meant to be us, to a degree. He is a character with dialogue.
> I think Rookie from ODST was meant to be us completely.

Good to Know.

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> > > > > showing that there was not dangerous amounts of radiation at that time and it would be unlikely that that would change in 20 minutes.
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> > > > That is mainly because the Covenant Cruiser that was going to glass the area was destroyed by Noble Six. Even if radiation was present, it would be very minimal. Radiation also takes time to spread, but is very long-lasting. The cities of Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Pripyat (the city that suffered from the disaster of Chernobyl) are all still full of radiation to this day. Also, I think the Covenant really only glassed parts of the planet that contained human life.
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> > > > > - in game, you can survive as long as you like in lone wolf if you find a glitch spot where you can’t be shot at
> > > > > So radiation doesn’t seem to be a large threat during the events of lone wolf. Also, they did not kill every human on reach, there are many notable survivors such as sgt. Johnson, spartan blue team, jun and keyes
> > > >
> > > > You know that there is actually a limit in Lone Wolf? Most of the community don’t know, but if you survive long enough in the level, it will end automatically. It’s not really much, since it shows the same cutscene when you “die”, but at least you do accomplish the objective of surviving.
> > > > No, in fact, radiation is no threat at all in Lone Wolf. I said they swore to kill every human life in Reach. And I mean leave no life behind in the planet. This doesn’t necessaily mean that everyone that stepped on the planet has to die, no. Everyone can escape if possible, but the Covenant simply wanted to wipe human life out of the planet.
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> > > > > > (I didn’ wrote this lol)
> > > > > > my reasoning behind the covenant being at the saber launch site is that they were searching for relics, much like the zealots in winter contigency and the seraph is because seraphs were the main assault force on the station in “long night of solace” so after taking the station they may have had the seraphs holding the station. also I would have used Sabers in my idea but they aren’t capable of slip space.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > my idea (and my response for that matter) may not be perfect since I don’t know every bit of halo lore but I’ll be willing to edit it every time you point out one of my mistakes, thank you very much
> > > >
> > > > That’s actually not a bad idea, however one of the reasons that the Covenant attacked the base was to capture or destroy the experimental Sabres, all according to Halo Nation. Sabre Program Launch/Research Range | Halo Alpha | Fandom
> > >
> > > * first off, conversations like this are what make me come back to the forums, The knowledge, the communication, its all great, thank you for helping me learn about my favorite series so much.
> > >
> > > * second: the ship breaking yard wouldn’t be high on the covenants glassing list because, A: it contained technology that they could later study to help them get the upper hand, B: it isn’t a massive population center or major military base like sword base or New Alexandria, C: the only reason they sent a cruiser there, the pillar of autumn, is now gone and they sent a chunk of their ships, not a major chunk but a few ships in the area, after it and the ships that remained were elsewhere and D: (wow that looks like a shocked face…) its pretty much a dry abandoned wasteland as it is, why glass a deserted wasteland? even if it is to kill a spartan, seems like a major waste of resources…
> > >
> > > third: there’s a grenade launcher in lone wolf, as well as the hundreds of plasma pistols lying around, six could just grab one, take down a banshee, hijack (or skyjack) it and be on his marry way to the saber launch site with added protection from the radiation bombardment, which for the most part, would be close to the ground (since the ship which is the source of radiation is on the ground),
> > >
> > > *forth: I’d wager that there’s atleast one seraph, maybe even a phantom on board that crashed ship that noble 6 could steal, (I don’t know why I didn’t think of this before, corvettes have seraphs on them, maybe there’s a functioning one of the cruiser…)
> > >
> > > *fifth: im sure that if I could clear out a corvette on legendary, alone, then N6 would be able to clear one out again, maybe even a cruiser, he could find one, board it, take it over (somehow) and once again be off of reach with a slipspace capable ship.
> > >
> > > I hope that this proves that it is possible for some “1% scenario” for 6 to survive, and if 343 is reading this? make it happen, Johnson survived the pillar out autumns detonation (I know that there’s some special piece of lure that allows Johnson to survive through the all mighty power of space magic, but the only halo book I’ve read so far is contact harvest), im sure that 6 could have gotten off reach.
> >
> > 1: We’re 2 then :slight_smile:
> > 2: A: The Covenant’s technology is way more advanced than the Humans, being at like Tier 2, all mainly because of the Elites. Excluding the Ancient Humans, Forerunners and Precursors, they we’re the first specie to develop slip-space technology, near invisibility, plasma-based weaponry, weapons that can react to their target (like the Needler), etc. Halo: Fall of Reach animated series Spoilers…
> > They’re also smart enough to develop a shield so strong that it can withstand a nuclear warhead, and have no scratches at all.You can also see how the UNSC Savannah was easily destroyed by the Corvette in Long Night of Solace.
> > B\C: Yes, it might be deserted, but remember that there was a Halcyon-class cruiser docked there, and many UNSC Marines. In my opinion, if I we’re a Sangheili, I would glass that area, to quickly dispatch of the humans, with extreme ease.
> > D: Explained
> > 3: Yes, many weapons we’re scattered throughout the battlefield, however, there we’re way too many enemies. Even if Six could kill those Elites in the ending cutscene for Lone Wolf, more would appear, and kill him. Six was also too tired to even stand on his feet (noticeable after “dying” in Lone Wolf), so skyjacking a Banshee would be near impossible.
> > 4: Explained in 3.
> > 5: The cannon difficulty is Heroic. You do know that a CCS-class cruiser is way bigger than a SDV-class Corvette, right? Six was able to clear out the Corvette’s crew during Operation: Upper Cut, because he had back-up, and could prepare himself for the next engagement. Taking a Corvette by himself is way harder. Also, how would he even be able to board one?
> >
> > That “1%” scenario might be right. Also, please don’t beg for 343 to read it, please.
> > SPOILER ALERT FOR JOHNSON’S SURVIVAL ON ALPHA HALO
> > The cutscene that plays when you complete the Maw on Legendary is non-cannon, it’s just an easter-egg. He actually escaped the ring in a Pelican with other marines. Didn’t read the books, had to search on the Internet. (Can’t find Halo novels here on portugal because everyone here is PS fanboy lmao).
>
> Also, to add to this… The Original plan for the Master Chief after leaving Reach SPOILER Was to Steal a Covenant Cruiser and Dock at High Charity. This was Put Off when the Pillar of Autumn makes the Random Slipspace Jump, that landed then at. alpha Halo (installation 3).
> So, when we end Up in Halo 2, finally on High Charity (thanks to the Gravemind) the Chief finds the Perfect opportunity to Finally Fulfill his MAIN Mission. So, Without 6’s SACRIFICE… Humanity wouldn’t have Survived.

Wait… Chief’s main mission? Source plz? If it’s in a novel, then no way I can know. :frowning:
Also, you got some wrong info. Alpha Halo is Installation 04, 343 Guilty Spark’s original home (like how he said in the 2nd terminal of Halo CEA)

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> > > > > That is mainly because the Covenant Cruiser that was going to glass the area was destroyed by Noble Six. Even if radiation was present, it would be very minimal. Radiation also takes time to spread, but is very long-lasting. The cities of Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Pripyat (the city that suffered from the disaster of Chernobyl) are all still full of radiation to this day. Also, I think the Covenant really only glassed parts of the planet that contained human life.
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> > > > > > - in game, you can survive as long as you like in lone wolf if you find a glitch spot where you can’t be shot at
> > > > > > So radiation doesn’t seem to be a large threat during the events of lone wolf. Also, they did not kill every human on reach, there are many notable survivors such as sgt. Johnson, spartan blue team, jun and keyes
> > > > >
> > > > > You know that there is actually a limit in Lone Wolf? Most of the community don’t know, but if you survive long enough in the level, it will end automatically. It’s not really much, since it shows the same cutscene when you “die”, but at least you do accomplish the objective of surviving.
> > > > > No, in fact, radiation is no threat at all in Lone Wolf. I said they swore to kill every human life in Reach. And I mean leave no life behind in the planet. This doesn’t necessaily mean that everyone that stepped on the planet has to die, no. Everyone can escape if possible, but the Covenant simply wanted to wipe human life out of the planet.
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> > > > > > > (I didn’ wrote this lol)
> > > > > > > my reasoning behind the covenant being at the saber launch site is that they were searching for relics, much like the zealots in winter contigency and the seraph is because seraphs were the main assault force on the station in “long night of solace” so after taking the station they may have had the seraphs holding the station. also I would have used Sabers in my idea but they aren’t capable of slip space.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > my idea (and my response for that matter) may not be perfect since I don’t know every bit of halo lore but I’ll be willing to edit it every time you point out one of my mistakes, thank you very much
> > > > >
> > > > > That’s actually not a bad idea, however one of the reasons that the Covenant attacked the base was to capture or destroy the experimental Sabres, all according to Halo Nation. Sabre Program Launch/Research Range | Halo Alpha | Fandom
> > > >
> > > > * first off, conversations like this are what make me come back to the forums, The knowledge, the communication, its all great, thank you for helping me learn about my favorite series so much.
> > > >
> > > > * second: the ship breaking yard wouldn’t be high on the covenants glassing list because, A: it contained technology that they could later study to help them get the upper hand, B: it isn’t a massive population center or major military base like sword base or New Alexandria, C: the only reason they sent a cruiser there, the pillar of autumn, is now gone and they sent a chunk of their ships, not a major chunk but a few ships in the area, after it and the ships that remained were elsewhere and D: (wow that looks like a shocked face…) its pretty much a dry abandoned wasteland as it is, why glass a deserted wasteland? even if it is to kill a spartan, seems like a major waste of resources…
> > > >
> > > > third: there’s a grenade launcher in lone wolf, as well as the hundreds of plasma pistols lying around, six could just grab one, take down a banshee, hijack (or skyjack) it and be on his marry way to the saber launch site with added protection from the radiation bombardment, which for the most part, would be close to the ground (since the ship which is the source of radiation is on the ground),
> > > >
> > > > *forth: I’d wager that there’s atleast one seraph, maybe even a phantom on board that crashed ship that noble 6 could steal, (I don’t know why I didn’t think of this before, corvettes have seraphs on them, maybe there’s a functioning one of the cruiser…)
> > > >
> > > > *fifth: im sure that if I could clear out a corvette on legendary, alone, then N6 would be able to clear one out again, maybe even a cruiser, he could find one, board it, take it over (somehow) and once again be off of reach with a slipspace capable ship.
> > > >
> > > > I hope that this proves that it is possible for some “1% scenario” for 6 to survive, and if 343 is reading this? make it happen, Johnson survived the pillar out autumns detonation (I know that there’s some special piece of lure that allows Johnson to survive through the all mighty power of space magic, but the only halo book I’ve read so far is contact harvest), im sure that 6 could have gotten off reach.
>
> Wait… Chief’s main mission? Source plz? If it’s in a novel, then no way I can know. :frowning:
> Also, you got some wrong info. Alpha Halo is Installation 04, 343 Guilty Spark’s original home (like how he said in the 2nd terminal of Halo CEA)

I believe it was in Halo:the Fall of Reach NOVEL.