I’m pretty sure I heard that Waypoint is having the file share, but no rendering. Do you think they will let you be able to render videos or atleast have something to let you get your clips from Halo onto the computer? If not, I’ll be stuck then. I would have to get Roxio game recorder or something then. 
All former clips before March 31st that are rendered will be viewable on Bungie for a while, however, no way to render or download new ones.
dang, thats a major bummer! Im hoping they figure out some rendering options soon. I think i only have like 5 render points. Idk what to use them on.
> I’m pretty sure I heard that Waypoint is having the file share, but no rendering. Do you think they will let you be able to render videos or atleast have something to let you get your clips from Halo onto the computer? If not, I’ll be stuck then. I would have to get Roxio game recorder or something then.
As far as capture devices go I would recommend the Hauppauge HD PVR, and to use Sony Vegas Movie Studio HD Platinum 11.
I ended up getting both to get clips from CE Anniversary campaign. Seeing the news about no in-game / in-website rendering I’m even more glad I did.
Thanks, I guess I’ll look into those. Shame they won’t let you render clips.
> dang, thats a major bummer! Im hoping they figure out some rendering options soon. I think i only have like 5 render points. Idk what to use them on.
I advise you spend them before March 31st or they will go to waste, all render points will be removed on March 31st.
They will never add it. For the same reason their Service Records are trash compared to Bungie’s (B.net records are far more detailed, I always use Bnet over Waypoint). They either don’t care or are too lazy to do it.
343’s mission statement as of late seems to be “Disregard community, acquire currency”
> They will never add it. For the same reason their Service Records are trash compared to Bungie’s (B.net records are far more detailed, I always use Bnet over Waypoint). They either don’t care or are too lazy to do it.
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> 343’s mission statement as of late seems to be “Disregard community, acquire currency”
> We know the features being discussed in this thread are important to many of you, and making the decisions we did were incredibly difficult.
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> Adding new features, even ones that seem small, take a significant amount of time and resources. Our main priorities at this time are supporting Reach, building out Halo Waypoint, and making Halo 4.
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> I know it’s hard to see the positives right now, but because we’re prioritizing those things, you get new Halo: Reach game types and regular playlist updates, you get File Share access on Halo Waypoint this summer, and you get an amazing new game in Holiday 2012.
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> Again, I don’t expect any of you to be excited about some of the particulars of the transition. Hopefully we can come together, though, and make things a bit easier through some of the ideas listed in this thread (such as community members with capture cards rendering films for their friends). If I can help out with organizing things like that in absolutely any way, please just ask. I’m willing to do whatever I can to assist in making the best of this situation.
> > They will never add it. For the same reason their Service Records are trash compared to Bungie’s (B.net records are far more detailed, I always use Bnet over Waypoint). They either don’t care or are too lazy to do it.
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> > 343’s mission statement as of late seems to be “Disregard community, acquire currency”
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> > We know the features being discussed in this thread are important to many of you, and making the decisions we did were incredibly difficult.
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> > Adding new features, even ones that seem small, take a significant amount of time and resources. Our main priorities at this time are supporting Reach, building out Halo Waypoint, and making Halo 4.
> >
> > I know it’s hard to see the positives right now, but because we’re prioritizing those things, you get new Halo: Reach game types and regular playlist updates, you get File Share access on Halo Waypoint this summer, and you get an amazing new game in Holiday 2012.
> >
> > Again, I don’t expect any of you to be excited about some of the particulars of the transition. Hopefully we can come together, though, and make things a bit easier through some of the ideas listed in this thread (such as community members with capture cards rendering films for their friends). If I can help out with organizing things like that in absolutely any way, please just ask. I’m willing to do whatever I can to assist in making the best of this situation.
Glad to see this, really glad to see this.
Even if they can’t “fix” the current situation, at least they care about us! 
I completely agree, Eshka. That’s great to hear!
> > They will never add it. For the same reason their Service Records are trash compared to Bungie’s (B.net records are far more detailed, I always use Bnet over Waypoint). They either don’t care or are too lazy to do it.
> >
> > 343’s mission statement as of late seems to be “Disregard community, acquire currency”
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> > We know the features being discussed in this thread are important to many of you, and making the decisions we did were incredibly difficult.
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> > Adding new features, even ones that seem small, take a significant amount of time and resources. Our main priorities at this time are supporting Reach, building out Halo Waypoint, and making Halo 4.
> >
> > I know it’s hard to see the positives right now, but because we’re prioritizing those things, you get new Halo: Reach game types and regular playlist updates, you get File Share access on Halo Waypoint this summer, and you get an amazing new game in Holiday 2012.
> >
> > Again, I don’t expect any of you to be excited about some of the particulars of the transition. Hopefully we can come together, though, and make things a bit easier through some of the ideas listed in this thread (such as community members with capture cards rendering films for their friends). If I can help out with organizing things like that in absolutely any way, please just ask. I’m willing to do whatever I can to assist in making the best of this situation.
I can be added to any list of those who will render videos with a capture device for those who have not.
I bought render minutes for Bungie from Amazon, and any time I saw someone asking for a render I’d do it, and in Hi-Def (you can check my profile over there - my rendered films - to see).
I think as a community we can live with the loss of the API and film rendering for Reach for the summer ONLY IF those features are reinstated by 343 for Halo 4.
If Halo 4 will not have a stat API or the ability to make and render film clips Halo is going to lose most of us.
Just FYI.
Not me. I would never stop playing Halo because of something like that.
You may not, but those of us who have been involved in the Halo universe longer than you most likely will.
They need to get this right, or us experienced folk are going to get enough.
I’m the founder of a private group, and our members have a hard enough time buying all the dang DLC.
Then Anniversary came out, and you had to have a dang Kinect to see all of it. I spent over two weeks capturing and rendering 90 clips to make a montage of the analyze mode items so my members could see them. I bought a Hauppauge HD PVR and Sony Vegas to do it.
I can already see the writing on the wall. We’ll probably get an API , our detailed stats, and the abilty to render clips for H4 but will probably have to pay ANOTHER monthly fee to do it, as if buying a $60 game and paying for XBL isn’t enough money.
Our group is less than a hundred people. But if I start getting pee on my back while someone tries to tell me it’s a spring shower I think I’ll find another game for us to play.
> We know the features being discussed in this thread are important to many of you, and making the decisions we did were incredibly difficult.
>
> Adding new features, even ones that seem small, take a significant amount of time and resources. Our main priorities at this time are supporting Reach, building out Halo Waypoint, and making Halo 4.
>
> I know it’s hard to see the positives right now, but because we’re prioritizing those things, you get new Halo: Reach game types and regular playlist updates, you get File Share access on Halo Waypoint this summer, and you get an amazing new game in Holiday 2012.
>
> Again, I don’t expect any of you to be excited about some of the particulars of the transition. Hopefully we can come together, though, and make things a bit easier through some of the ideas listed in this thread (such as community members with capture cards rendering films for their friends). If I can help out with organizing things like that in absolutely any way, please just ask. I’m willing to do whatever I can to assist in making the best of this situation.
As long as Halo 4 has something like that, I will be happy, I rarely render any video from Halo Reach, mostly ones I want to stick on my YouTube channel, but even then, lately it’s been mostly PC stuff.
But if they give Halo 4 the ability to render videos, and/or upload them onto YouTube, I’ll be happy. Most of the extra features every one is asking for, video renders and name plates, I think those should be left up to 343i to work out, and maybe they’ll surprise us and include them into Halo 4.
As for monthly fees, I kind of both see Microsoft pulling that off, and I can’t see 343i pulling that trick. But if 343i does something like “If you pay X amount a month, we’ll donate the total money we make off of the monthly thing to some charity group.” That I would gladly spend extra money for. Bungie I was okay with paying a monthly fee, because Bungie was just a partner with Microsoft when it came to Halo, so things like their web site, and funds for future projects, I don’t mind paying a monthly fee.
> You may not, but those of us who have been involved in the Halo universe longer than you most likely will.
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> They need to get this right, or us experienced folk are going to get enough.
>
> I’m the founder of a private group, and our members have a hard enough time buying all the dang DLC.
>
> Then Anniversary came out, and you had to have a dang Kinect to see all of it. I spent over two weeks capturing and rendering 90 clips to make a montage of the analyze mode items so my members could see them. I bought a Hauppauge HD PVR and Sony Vegas to do it.
>
> I can already see the writing on the wall. We’ll probably get an API , our detailed stats, and the abilty to render clips for H4 but will probably have to pay ANOTHER monthly fee to do it, as if buying a $60 game and paying for XBL isn’t enough money.
>
> Our group is less than a hundred people. But if I start getting pee on my back while someone tries to tell me it’s a spring shower I think I’ll find another game for us to play.
Well, I understand what you mean, but maybe think of it on 343’s side. They’re working hard to make Halo 4 for us, and by the looks of just one trailer, it looks awesome. I’m sure we all thought Halo was going to be the end after Halo 3/Reach. I know I did, and I was very disappointed. Even if the clip rendering is a little thing, they’re probably extremely busy with Halo 4 and the other stuff. I would appreciate Halo 4 just for the campaign, but they give us more like matchmaking and other stuff… Yet we want more. I’m sure they spend a lot of money and dedicated time on this game, so we should appreciate what they give us.
First please research 343 Industries. They were founded by Microsoft Game Studios and are a wholly owned subsidiary of Microsoft. They are essentially Microsoft going by another name.
Bungie is an independent company that started out as a few guys in a basement that made games prior to Halo and its involvement with Microsoft.
343 doesn’t have the luxury to do what it wants with Halo 4 in regard to features due to what Bungie did with the product line ahead of them.
Would you buy a computer slower than your current one? A smart phone that did less than your current one? I think not. If Apple released an iPhone 5 that made only phone calls and did nothing else would you say we should just be glad Apple gave us a new product and run and buy it? I think not.
Halo 4 at a minimum will have to offer everything Halo 3 and Reach did in the way of features or it will be a step backward in the product line not worth buying.
To say we should just be happy if all it has is campaign just doesn’t make sense. No product line in the world will succeed if new models offer less than previous ones. The same thing applies here.
Well to me campaigns are fun alone, but whatever. I see what you mean, also I had no idea that Bungie started out like that lol.
> First please research 343 Industries. They were founded by Microsoft Game Studios and are a wholly owned subsidiary of Microsoft. They are essentially Microsoft going by another name.
>
> Bungie is an independent company that started out as a few guys in a basement that made games prior to Halo and its involvement with Microsoft.
>
> 343 doesn’t have the luxury to do what it wants with Halo 4 in regard to features due to what Bungie did with the product line ahead of them.
>
> Would you buy a computer slower than your current one? A smart phone that did less than your current one? I think not. If Apple released an iPhone 5 that made only phone calls and did nothing else would you say we should just be glad Apple gave us a new product and run and buy it? I think not.
>
> Halo 4 at a minimum will have to offer everything Halo 3 and Reach did in the way of features or it will be a step backward in the product line not worth buying.
>
> To say we should just be happy if all it has is campaign just doesn’t make sense. No product line in the world will succeed if new models offer less than previous ones. The same thing applies here.
Nice and I agree, take Activision Blizzard they are floating the idea of actually charging a monthly fee to play MW online. I mean come one what do we have to pay now adays to enjoy a game. All I can say, if they didn’t raise the bar Bungie set, then they have failed already.
> Would you buy a computer slower than your current one? A smart phone that did less than your current one? I think not. If Apple released an iPhone 5 that made only phone calls and did nothing else would you say we should just be glad Apple gave us a new product and run and buy it? I think not.
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> Halo 4 at a minimum will have to offer everything Halo 3 and Reach did in the way of features or it will be a step backward in the product line not worth buying.
>
> To say we should just be happy if all it has is campaign just doesn’t make sense. No product line in the world will succeed if new models offer less than previous ones. The same thing applies here.
I’d prefer a stable 1GB RAM computer over a 4GB RAM computer that randomly replaces its own operating system with a program that does nothing but print various vulgarities to the screen.
Halo 4 doesn’t need rendering or a stats API to be an improvement over Reach. It just needs better and more-sustainable game mechanics.
Don’t get me wrong – I understand your opinion, and I can see how it would be frustrating to lose something that seemed like it’d go on forever, or at least for longer than it is. But it’s not illogical or irrational to want to buy Halo 4 even despite the possibility – remembering that this is all hypothetical for now – that it may have fewer side-features than Reach.