Its pretty impossible for red to win when it’s 2 competitive teams against each other. Blue gets the same cover on pelican as they did in H3, but red has no cover on pelican. Pelican controls that map and sadly 343 removed the only spot red could be on to not get shot at by tree side…
TLDR: 343 -Yoinked!- this map up and gave blue an almost always auto win… GREAT JOB
How about everyone just stops voting for that -Yoink!- map in the first place? Every game Ragnarok Ragnarok Ragnarok. For Christ’s sake.
I’ve won almost every game I’ve had on Ragnarok, and I’ve only been blue once while playing on it.
the maps pretty much identical i dont know wth youre talking about. red and blue can get to the pelican just as fast as one another
I’ve won as both the blue and red team in that map so, I don’t know what you’re talking about.
What? Red team has a significant advantage. The entire centre hill is designed to give red team a large advantage. Pelican is every bit as useful for Red as it is for blue while the centre hill is significantly better for Red than blue…
Since all 343 did is make a carbon copy of it, all of these problems are ones that Bungie made then, since they…you know…CREATED THE MAP! Blame the creators of the maps, not the people who remade it.
I would’nt notice, because it’s not like I ever win any matchs anyway :P.
The only things I don’t like about Ragnarok is how it’s missing those floodlights and how you can’t get the teleporter above the waterfall.
It was a great map to test some of the vehicles on.
Don’t even try to defend that stupid map. It’s blatantly unfair and unbalanced. That doesn’t mean you will lose all the time though, there is that whole team factor you know…
> What? Red team has a significant advantage. The entire centre hill is designed to give red team a large advantage. Pelican is every bit as useful for Red as it is for blue while the centre hill is significantly better for Red than blue…
People actually go to center hill? Ragnarok has been nothing but a DMR pot shot fight on the sides of the map for me. 
Sounds like someone got beat down badly here. I’m sorry for your loss.
It’s even worse when playing CTF (5v5)
-2 Mantis
-2 Banshee
-2 Snipes
-Laser
All it takes is a bad matchup and before you know it, you’re getting spawn camped.
Valhalla was hardly a good map in the first place.
the rock above pelican was able to shield red side from blues tree line… however, 343 removed that rock and spot… carbon copy my -Yoink-, and please try playing against actual btb teams, not randoms
> Sounds like someone got beat down badly here. I’m sorry for your losses.
FYP seeing as this is probably the case
They screwed it up another way as well. In forge, when trying to place objective ordinance for dominion, it literally does not let you set it as a resupply zone. It’s an objective ordinance but with no objective to pick from. I checked several other maps and they all let you set the objective for when the ordinance spawns. Just not Valhalla/Ragnorok
> What? Red team has a significant advantage. The entire centre hill is designed to give red team a large advantage. Pelican is every bit as useful for Red as it is for blue while the centre hill is significantly better for Red than blue…
The hill? You mean the death zone more like it.
If I’m red, I’ll stick to either of the left or right tunnels thank you very much.