I refuse this map, sorry but its just the worst map in the FF suite. When its picked i quit, i hate quitting but that map, GAAAAAHHHHH!!
I cringe every time it is displayed as one of the voting options.
“No no no NO NO NO!!!” is exclaimed from my mouth when votes are in favor of it.
I sit there in a gloomy state as I attempt to bare through the match, just for the other players to quit out.
It is quite the trial of patience and self control of not breaking my controller when playing on that map.
I think Waterfront is not that bad, Outpost is much worse. Well it’s not an easy map but still a good one. Yes, it’s a bit tough that there’s no bottleneck like on Holdout or Courtyard, but this makes it challenging. Anyway, that is your opinion, nobody is forced to like any of the maps, weapons, etc.
Actually, i like Waterfront. If there is one FF map i really hate, its Overlook.
Overlook was definitely better as an Invasion map.
And Waterfront might actually make a pretty good MM map.
> I think Waterfront is not that bad, <mark>Outpost is much worse</mark>. Well it’s not an easy map but still a good one. Yes, it’s a bit tough that there’s no bottleneck like on Holdout or Courtyard, but this makes it challenging. Anyway, that is your opinion, nobody is forced to like any of the maps, weapons, etc.
You know, Outpost, Installation 04, and Beachhead are by far the best FF Sniper Maps. I always end up in first place on all three maps. You can say, its an open map. However, i’m very disappointed that Reach didn’t have any ODST maps, like ONI: Alpha Site (Outside) and Uplift Reserve.
The only real annoying thing about that map is the two sniping Jackals. Plenty places to defend and to make a escape from. The central dais is perfect for catching the elites on, while attacking from the roof tops can be loads of fun especially with the grenade launcher, lots of bank shots and surfaces to use to get at your targets. Now in Limited I found that I could hold out against a main attacking force by using the backside of the the main building that has the hole inside it that leads to the sewer below. You can bottle neck them there by catching them on those two ramps that lead up to you with well placed grenades.
But yeah it’s not a map I play willingly.
> Actually, i like Waterfront. If there is one FF map i really hate, its Overlook.
Overlook? Really, that makes me sad. Thats one of my favorites to just wreck -Yoink- on.
I hold the killionaire as the highest level in firefight, getting them makes me smile. If any of you guys have some good ones post em up, i download and watch em
Edit: i guess linking a simple film is to hard for them to code around here, ugh! Anyways, look in the films section of my file share and youll see the two overlooks clips
Waterfront isn’t bad, IMHO. I haven’t played it in quite a while due to its general lack of popularity, I suspect. Overlook is probably my least favorite, but I think that’s because I tend to end up there too often. I can get sick of just about any map after a while, I suppose. My favorites are Instillation 04, and Courtyard.
God help you if I get a Fistfight on Courtyard.
usually if you veto Overlook you get Waterfront, i try to avoid it as much as i can but if i have to play it then l’ll just go somewhere were that annoying jackal on the ridge cant get me.
the map isnt that hard to hold, to me its just boring
> Waterfront isn’t bad, IMHO. I haven’t played it in quite a while due to its general lack of popularity, I suspect. Overlook is probably my least favorite, but I think that’s because I tend to end up there too often. I can get sick of just about any map after a while, I suppose. My favorites are Instillation 04, and Courtyard.
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> God help you if I get a Fistfight on Courtyard.
I love a fistfight on any map, holdout and corvette are fun ones too.
Courtyard even limited is a fun map.
Ridge snipers + no vehicle drops (for the Grounded commendation) + no drivable vehicles or turrets (for the Vehicular commendation) = worst FF map in the rotation.
Outpost and Overlook both have vehicles dropped occasionally and both have turrets.
I find Corvette plays the fastest, followed by Courtyard.
Beachhead, Holdout, and Installation 04 are the best for killing vehicles (though I wish we could hijack the Banshee).
If you know what you’re doing and how to play on the maps you should have no problem. If you’re playing solo it depends. I recommend sniper weapons(your preferable choice) and an Energy Sword and stay up on the first building with the sewer below. Its the best place to camp. Recommended armor ability: Armor Lock or Drop Shield.
For Firefight Arcade: Sniper weapon and an Energy Sword same as above. If you’re not caring about credits like my self, be a sniper and kill the Kig-yar snipers up on the ridge to protect your buddies. If you’re wanting credits I recommend heavy weapons such as Rocket Launcher or Fuel Rod. Let one of your team mates be a sniper and on the out look for those Kig-yar snipers. Beware of Heretics! Use Heavy Weapons against them at all costs! Use Armor Lock to protect yourself! For those that are snipers use Active Camo or Armor Lock to protect yourself. Stay in between the two tall structures on the roof to avoid being seen by the heretics. Wait for the heretics to come to you up on the roof and when they come, slice anyone that comes up with your sword! I recommend not using the Hammer because if there’s grenades on the ground and you hammer the enemies, the grenades will explode and kill you. Trust me it happened to me alot of times.
In the end both you and your team will earn a large amount of credits. Sniper will have some as well but the sniper on your team provides support to take out those Kig-yar snipers.
I get the same feeling when Boardwalk shows up in Team Slayer,
no, just no, it’s the worst map in the history of Reach and should be obliterated from history!!!
oh, actually, i really like this map.
though i really hate ‘glacier’.
all the other maps are just fine to me.
> > Actually, i like Waterfront. If there is one FF map i really hate, its Overlook.
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> <mark>Overlook? Really, that makes me sad. Thats one of my favorites to just wreck Yoink! on.</mark>
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> Check this out
> http://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/haloreach/deluca34/fileshare#!/?section=Film&MapId=&GameMode=0&SearchDate=0&SortBy=2&view-select=Tile&tags=&startIndex=0&details=29345375
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> And then this
> http://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/haloreach/deluca34/fileshare#!/?section=Film&MapId=&GameMode=0&SearchDate=0&SortBy=2&view-select=Tile&tags=&startIndex=0&details=29344891
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> I hold the killionaire as the highest level in firefight, getting them makes me smile. If any of you guys have some good ones post em up, i download and watch em
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> Edit: i guess linking a simple film is to hard for them to code around here, ugh! Anyways, look in the films section of my file share and youll see the two overlooks clips
Oh yes, i never liked Overlook.
Definitely the one I don’t want to get stuck with. Inheritor + Get Loud Maxed means I’m going in with Sniper load-out. I’ll take out the guys on the ridge, and the Phantom turrets, then DMR the snot out of everything I can in the early rounds. I take the first building rooftop, and duck behind the little cover on top and camo so that I can pick off the Jackals.
Once it gets to the later rounds, I drop the DMR for a needler as it is more effective against Jackals, and strong Elites. (This is due to my commendations)
But mostly avoid the map whenever possible - just making due with what is there.
I’m not a big fan of waterfront either. It’s just doesn’t have that fun factor for a FF map.
> This is due to my commendations
Make things go boom is how I treat firefight now. With 11/15 firefight commendations maxed I don’t bother trying to use the ‘skilled approach’ via the sniper rifle. The grounded, perfectionist, and vehicular commendations are not fun to work on so at this point I just do whatever I feel like even if it is using a frg. Because of NEP however I switch if I can get it a dmr or magnum for later rounds if I can. While the needler is effective against elites it is annoying as hell trying to kill skirmishers with it. It is a tough choice between the magnum and the dmr, walking around the map with a plasma pistol and magnum is a lot of fun. I’ve said this before but there have been games when everyone spammed frg and rockets and I just used my magnum/PP/needler combo and got more kills and points with fewer deaths.
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