A constant complaint throughout the Halo Community is that 343i is trying to CODify the franchise. After receiving negative feedback from Halo4 about it, why digress even further by adding the left trigger iron sights? I’m glad 343i is trying to innovate the franchise, but that , imo, is not a good feature.
There is De-scope and it doesn’t affect movement
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Smart Scope changes how full autos function after 343 specifically told us it works the same way as regular scoping. It’s change for the sake of change, and many people have good reason to dislike it. It’s just another excuse for Halo to continue conforming to other generic FPS games.
Its just sn animation on top of the original scope. If you played the beta you would know it wasn’t that big of a deal.
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> Smart Scope changes how full autos function after 343 specifically told us it works the same way as regular scoping. It’s change for the sake of change, and many people have good reason to dislike it. It’s just another excuse for Halo to continue conforming to other generic FPS games.
Last I checked, the amount of time that said change lasts is extremely miniscule. Only a few seconds. And all it is is a slight increase in accuracy that then fades and doesn’t come back unless you scope back in. And even then, I think they said they were getting rid of that function. Now it’s just a zoom. There honestly is nothing wrong with Smart Scope and I remember reading that there will be a toggle so that you can have classic zoom.
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> Smart Scope changes how full autos function after 343 specifically told us it works the same way as regular scoping. It’s change for the sake of change, and many people have good reason to dislike it. It’s just another excuse for Halo to continue conforming to other generic FPS games.
No where near to the extent that normal ADS does. But since you are getting de-scoped constantly since the person will be shooting you too, its almost completely null unless you are shooting someone in the back in which case you should win anyways
It shouldn’t have been added.
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> A constant complaint throughout the Halo Community is that 343i is trying to CODify the franchise. After receiving negative feedback from Halo4 about it, why digress even further by adding the left trigger iron sights? I’m glad 343i is trying to innovate the franchise, but that , imo, is not a good feature.
I assume you’re talking about Ads? Not a lot of weapons in the Beta had Iron sights friend and its just a control scheme if you don’t want to be associated with aiming down sights with the left trigger then don’t. The default controls in the Beta were funky anyway I’ll stick to recon.
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> > Smart Scope changes how full autos function after 343 specifically told us it works the same way as regular scoping. It’s change for the sake of change, and many people have good reason to dislike it. It’s just another excuse for Halo to continue conforming to other generic FPS games.
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> No where near to the extent that normal ADS does. But since you are getting de-scoped constantly since the person will be shooting you too, its almost completely null unless you are shooting someone in the back in which case you should win anyways
In terms of who’s outputting more bullets, full autos will have an edge when descoping targets at range. More bullets and a faster ROF means more chances to descope the enemy and shut them out of range. Keep in mind that full autos are supposed to be close range oriented, not mid range oriented.
It was only implemented in the game to appeal to people who enjoy Military Shooters. It is really the most pointless change in Halo 5.
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> > > Smart Scope changes how full autos function after 343 specifically told us it works the same way as regular scoping. It’s change for the sake of change, and many people have good reason to dislike it. It’s just another excuse for Halo to continue conforming to other generic FPS games.
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Full autos could always de-scope at a medium range if a shot lands. They are not going to have an advantage at medium range on a BR since that person should be hip firing and destroying the AR person. This isn’t like an AR from Destiny or something where its extremely accurate at long ranges still. Just a slight burst of more accuracy and then it evens out (as far as we know this has been updated to not provide an accuracy boost at all)
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> It was only implemented in the game to appeal to people who enjoy Military Shooters. It is really the most pointless change in Halo 5.
Are Spartans not in the UNSC which is a military.
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Spartans do not need to aim down their sites because the aiming is already done for them.
Left trigger aim has been around in Halo since Halo 4 with the Fishstick button set. Youre a little late to the party there buddy.
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> Its just sn animation on top of the original scope. If you played the beta you would know it wasn’t that big of a deal.
Er, no, sir.
It’s not ‘just an animation’ with weapons that didn’t previously have a scoped firing mode. If SmartScope was just on stuff that could zoom and keep reticule [ IE: Snipers/Marksman Rifles ] in previous games, yes it would be merely an animation change.
Everyone I see making his argument conveniently ignores that every single weapon has a spread-tightening zoomed firing mode now. *This is a gameplay change at this point.*What remains to be seen is whether or not they scaled it back for automatics from the beta. If you didn’t think it was a big deal in beta, you were quite definitely not paying attention.
EDIT15: Why the hell doesn’t the < Return > function create proper paragraph breaks when I hit ‘Save’?
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> Smart Scope changes how full autos function after 343 specifically told us it works the same way as regular scoping. It’s change for the sake of change, and many people have good reason to dislike it. It’s just another excuse for Halo to continue conforming to other generic FPS games.
A penny for every comparison to a “generic” FPS and I’d be a millionaire. The most common complaints I here about it are ill-founded. Smart Scope does not hinder movement when zooming in. And the spread reduction when zoomed in has been in ever seems Halo Reach. While the older trilogy zoom didn’t out right offer accuracy bonuses ( jury is still out on that) the zoom did offer easier target acquisition through the 2x-10x zoom and more access to aim assist. The controversy over its inclusion was too reactionary. Brought on by players of all skill levels that didn’t do their research.
ADS doesn’t really add anything, it’s just change for the sake of change. The only problems I have with it is how much the gun blocks my view while scoped. Also I don’t like how the gun moves around as I move side to side and the reticule stays in the same spot, it’s just distracting.
Alot of people are ignorant to the fact that it only had an ever so slight increase in accuracy for the first few shots. Regardless if it helps accuracy or not, I find it much easier to aim with smart scope, then without it. I think it’s a wonderful change to Halo, and hope it sticks. It may have been a change for the sake of change, but alot of people like to complain for the sake of complaining 
I like it. It doesn’t make sense how you can’t aim with certain guns.
It just makes me sad how many people within in the community accepted it so readily with a bit of PR spin. Its not ADS, its smart scope, that’s totally different… Breaking news, sprint was removed from Halo 5 and was replaced with Spartan Speed, because it becomes a completely new mechanic with a few token tweaks right?
ADS used to be one of those impossibilities for the series. They may add x or why but there was no way they would add ADS, yet here we are. I just can’t imagine they did not know that it would create a backlash, scratch that, I can, which is why it is called smart scope instead of ADS. It also doesn’t look good on the back of the box as it were to tout ‘ADS’ as an innovation or ‘next gen’ addition.
If it was consistently implemented it would be one thing(at least from a lore perspective), but the rules seem to change based on the weapon. The AR doesn’t need to physically look down a sight to ‘smart scope’, so why does an SMG? Why look down your sniper/rocket/DMR scope when you supposedly have a direct link to the HUD?
The whole thing just leaves a foul taste in my mouth. Far too many people seem to treat 343’s decisions as if they were the only possible path they could have chosen. There are many other things they could have done and this change just feels particularly uninspired.