Warzone: New Shotgun for loadout idea.

So, I am a fan of shotguns, and I have wanted one for my default loadout for a while, but, the current shotgun is waaay to good for that, so here is my lousy idea for a new one:
Combat Shotgun
Requires Req 2.
Holds 8 rounds with the reload of the default shotgun.
250% increased range from default shotgun, 325% when aiming
Firing speed remain the same as default shotgun(Buff ROF if it fails to compete with other loadout weapons).
Takes 3 direct hits to kill at any range it is effective in, headshots gets no benefits.
1 shot + melee to kill(If possible, cannot melee a until new round has been loaded into the chamber)

So yeah, I really like shotguns, but the req system doesn’t allow me to run with one all the time, and even if I could, the range on it is way to short for normal warzone play, so I thought of this new one.

Let me know how much you hate the idea =)

I don’t see that as a good idea. I rather just have the Blaze of Glory.

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> So, I am a fan of shotguns, and I have wanted one for my default loadout for a while, but, the current shotgun is waaay to good for that, so here is my lousy idea for a new one:
> Combat Shotgun
> Requires Req 2.
> Holds 8 rounds with the reload of the default shotgun.
> 250% increased range from default shotgun, 325% when aiming
> Firing speed remain the same as default shotgun.
> Takes 3 direct hits to kill at any range it is effective in, headshots gets no benefits.
> 1 shot + melee to kill(If possible, cannot melee a until new round has been loaded into the chamber)
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> So yeah, I really like shotguns, but the req system doesn’t allow me to run with one all the time, and even if I could, the range on it is way to short for normal warzone play, so I thought of this new one.
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> Let me know how much you hate the idea =)

I don’t think you understand how much range that actually is.

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> I don’t see that as a good idea. I rather just have the Blaze of Glory.

The Blaze of Glory is like the god among shotguns, the one I am suggesting wouldn’t be anywhere near that good =P

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> > So, I am a fan of shotguns, and I have wanted one for my default loadout for a while, but, the current shotgun is waaay to good for that, so here is my lousy idea for a new one:
> > Combat Shotgun
> > Requires Req 2.
> > Holds 8 rounds with the reload of the default shotgun.
> > 250% increased range from default shotgun, 325% when aiming
> > Firing speed remain the same as default shotgun.
> > Takes 3 direct hits to kill at any range it is effective in, headshots gets no benefits.
> > 1 shot + melee to kill(If possible, cannot melee a until new round has been loaded into the chamber)
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> > So yeah, I really like shotguns, but the req system doesn’t allow me to run with one all the time, and even if I could, the range on it is way to short for normal warzone play, so I thought of this new one.
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> > Let me know how much you hate the idea =)
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> I don’t think you understand how much range that actually is.

It is pretty much from one side of an Armory to the other, after that, the damage would fall off into worthlessness after that.

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> > I don’t see that as a good idea. I rather just have the Blaze of Glory.
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> The Blaze of Glory is like the god among shotguns, the one I am suggesting wouldn’t be anywhere near that good =P

Yeah it it is. But why would it be 3 would it make sense it would be 2 shot.

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> > The Blaze of Glory is like the god among shotguns, the one I am suggesting wouldn’t be anywhere near that good =P
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> Yeah it it is. But why would it be 3 would it make sense it would be 2 shot.

Only if he lowers the range. We don’t need a 2 shot shotgun with more range than Blaze of Glory.

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> > > > I don’t see that as a good idea. I rather just have the Blaze of Glory.
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> > > The Blaze of Glory is like the god among shotguns, the one I am suggesting wouldn’t be anywhere near that good =P
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> > Yeah it it is. But why would it be 3 would it make sense it would be 2 shot.
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> Only if he lowers the range. We don’t need a 2 shot shotgun with more range than Blaze of Glory.

What if there like projection like takes a half a second. Or something.

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> Yeah it it is. But why would it be 3 would it make sense it would be 2 shot.

I didn’t want it to be at the line where it could cross into being OP, and 2 shots would make it a 1.7 sec ttk(ish) with 3 shots being about 2.4(ish) or something. Which would be more on par with the other weapons. I don’t want it dominating in CQB. No, 3 shots would be a good number.

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> > > > I don’t see that as a good idea. I rather just have the Blaze of Glory.
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> > > The Blaze of Glory is like the god among shotguns, the one I am suggesting wouldn’t be anywhere near that good =P
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> > Yeah it it is. But why would it be 3 would it make sense it would be 2 shot.
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> Only if he lowers the range. We don’t need a 2 shot shotgun with more range than Blaze of Glory.

Again, I don’t want this to be a power weapon, but a standard loadout weapon, and the suggestion would put it into the power weapon area.

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> > > Yeah it it is. But why would it be 3 would it make sense it would be 2 shot.
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> Again, I don’t want this to be a power weapon, but a standard loadout weapon, and the suggestion would put it into the power weapon area.

But it seems like a DMR can win a fight or a SMG.

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> > > > > > I don’t see that as a good idea. I rather just have the Blaze of Glory.
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> > > > > The Blaze of Glory is like the god among shotguns, the one I am suggesting wouldn’t be anywhere near that good =P
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> > > > Yeah it it is. But why would it be 3 would it make sense it would be 2 shot.
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> > > Only if he lowers the range. We don’t need a 2 shot shotgun with more range than Blaze of Glory.
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> > Again, I don’t want this to be a power weapon, but a standard loadout weapon, and the suggestion would put it into the power weapon area.
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> But it seems like a DMR can win a fight or a SMG.

Exactly!

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> > > Yeah it it is. But why would it be 3 would it make sense it would be 2 shot.
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> Again, I don’t want this to be a power weapon, but a standard loadout weapon, and the suggestion would put it into the power weapon area.

Have you checked the time it takes to get 3 shots off a shotgun? Any other loadout weapon would easily win.

Sound a lot like the scatter shot in terms of effectiveness.

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> > > > > > The Blaze of Glory is like the god among shotguns, the one I am suggesting wouldn’t be anywhere near that good =P
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> > > > > Yeah it it is. But why would it be 3 would it make sense it would be 2 shot.
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> Exactly!

But would it make it sense just have a regular shot gun?

A few suggestions for the OP:
Make shotgun 2 shot to kill
Reduce ROF by 10%-15%
Reduce range by a lot
Raise req level by 1 or 2

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> A few suggestions for the OP:
> Make shotgun 2 shot to kill
> Reduce ROF by 10%-15%
> Reduce range by a lot
> Raise req level by 1 or 2

The whole point was longer range…
Which where is the extra shot comes into play.

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> > > > > Only if he lowers the range. We don’t need a 2 shot shotgun with more range than Blaze of Glory.
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> > > > Again, I don’t want this to be a power weapon, but a standard loadout weapon, and the suggestion would put it into the power weapon area.
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> > > But it seems like a DMR can win a fight or a SMG.
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> > Exactly!
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> But would it make it sense just have a regular shot gun?

That’s the point where it fits into the regular loadout screen.

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> A few suggestions for the OP:
> Make shotgun 2 shot to kill
> Reduce ROF by 10%-15%
> Reduce range by a lot
> Raise req level by 1 or 2

Yeah I think we have a shot gun like that the Lawgivers it’s called I think. I still think its a bad idea.

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> > A few suggestions for the OP:
> > Make shotgun 2 shot to kill
> > Reduce ROF by 10%-15%
> > Reduce range by a lot
> > Raise req level by 1 or 2
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> Yeah I think we have a shot gun like that the Lawgivers it’s called I think. I still think its a bad idea.

Lawgiver is the opposite of that…My point Im trying to get across to the OP is that in its current state his weapon is pretty much useless. Every other loadout weapon easily beats it.

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> > > Make shotgun 2 shot to kill
> > > Reduce ROF by 10%-15%
> > > Reduce range by a lot
> > > Raise req level by 1 or 2
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> > Yeah I think we have a shot gun like that the Lawgivers it’s called I think. I still think its a bad idea.
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> Lawgiver is the opposite of that…My point Im trying to get across to the OP is that in its current state his weapon is pretty much useless. Every other loadout weapon easily beats it.

Yeah, even the Brute Plasma can win or the Plasma Pistol.