Warzone mode for players only (no AI)

Warzone looks fun but I personally don’t like AI in Halo multiplayer such as Spartan Ops and Fire Fight. This isn’t an insult to 343 as Bungie had this error as well (in my opinion at least). Fighting AI in campaign has always been fun, but when it came to Fire Fight or Spartan Ops, it felt as if the AI and level design had much less effort. The AI are just randomly plopped around the battlefield with no sandbox thought behind them. It gets boring and tedious. Thats why I’m not a fan of fire fight and spartan ops, yet I looove campaign. AI placement, level design, and everything is colossally better in campaign.

Warzone is basically a bigger BTB with AI. I like that, but could 343i maybe make a sub mode of Warzone with just 12 v 12 players and no AI? Just players having a big war without AI’s interfering? Traditional warzone can still stay (I do want to try it out), but I would like a sub mode of Warzone that is just players only fighting BTB style with 12 v 12.

Playlists like Griffball and BTB have multiple sub modes like “Vanillla Griffball” or “BTB heavies”

Can a sub mode of Warzone please be “Warzone (no AI)”? Please 343 :smiley:

Base Assault is Warzone that plays like Invasion or Rush-style game types without AI.

Does everything 12v12 count as Warzone, or just gametypes with Requisition? I’m hoping 24 players is the new max for all gametypes, and not just Warzone. I would really like a large 24-person Infection game.

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> Does everything 12v12 count as Warzone, or just gametypes with Requisition? I’m hoping 24 players is the new max for all gametypes, and not just Warzone. I would really like a large 24-person Infection game.

It’s doubtful since classic BTB has been confirmed to not be in game. Due to the map size required for Warzone, it appears that other game modes are getting the axe.

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> Base Assault is Warzone that plays like Invasion or Rush-style game types without AI.

This. That’s what you’re looking for.

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> It’s doubtful since classic BTB has been confirmed to not be in game. Due to the map size required for Warzone, it appears that other game modes are getting the axe.

WHAT! Where did you hear this, and links? I have read more than once classic BTB will be in halo 5

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> WHAT! Where did you hear this, and links? I have read more than once classic BTB will be in halo 5

He’s lying, BTB is confirmed but only after a short while after H5’s release. They have to optimize map sizes for BTB. Just like H4 where BTB came after release

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> He’s lying, BTB is confirmed but only after a short while after H5’s release. They have to optimize map sizes for BTB. Just like H4 where BTB came after release

Ok cool well that’s more like it. BTB is great for the casual gamer such as myself

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> Warzone looks fun but I personally don’t like AI in Halo multiplayer such as Spartan Ops and Fire Fight. This isn’t an insult to 343 as Bungie had this error as well (in my opinion at least). Fighting AI in campaign has always been fun, but when it came to Fire Fight or Spartan Ops, it felt as if the AI and level design had much less effort. The AI are just randomly plopped around the battlefield with no sandbox thought behind them. It gets boring and tedious. Thats why I’m not a fan of fire fight and spartan ops, yet I looove campaign. AI placement, level design, and everything is colossally better in campaign.
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> Warzone is basically a bigger BTB with AI. I like that, but could 343i maybe make a sub mode of Warzone with just 12 v 12 players and no AI? Just players having a big war without AI’s interfering? Traditional warzone can still stay (I do want to try it out), but I would like a sub mode of Warzone that is just players only fighting BTB style with 12 v 12.

Scarlet Stab, you are totally correct! The idea of Warzone being 12 v 12 with AI reminds me an awful lot of Titanfall, and we all know how well Titanfall did . . . I really like the idea of Warzone literally being just a Bigger Big Team Battle with the weapon and vehicle spawns, but the AI is no fun to play against when playing multiplayer, in my opinion. Multiplayer is called multiplayer for a reason, that reason being because it is multiple (multi) players playing against each other. It’ not called multiAI for a reason. The fun with any online game is that when you are fighting against another player you know that they are sitting on their couch with a controller in their hand and that they have reactions to everything that you do during the game, and that goes both ways. It’s totally awesome when I get a triple kill with rockets or some other power weapon and know that those 3 players were like “son of a b@&$#”. That is what playing against other players is all about, trying to outsmart them on the battlefield, which is really fun! Whenever I killed an AI in Titanfall it just felt like work and I didn’t get any enjoyment out of killing the computer (especially when there are actual people playing elsewhere on the battlefield which I would prefer to pursue, but was forced to take out the AI first because they were simply in the way).

Also 343i, it seems like you guys wanted to do away with the Halo 4 ordinance drop, which I am totally for and it seems you did, but in the Warzone gameplay that I have seen it looks like the better you do as a player the more/better weapons and vehicles you have to choose from when you go to the garage and select which one you want from the weapon/vehicle vendor. This is even worse then the Halo 4 ordinance drop, in my opinion, because now you can literally choose anything you want once you have leveled up enough in the game versus in Halo 4 where you had only a random choice of 3 options in the ordinance. Not really seeing how Warzone did away with the Halo 4 ordinance drop type of system here.

Also I read that BTB will not be an available playlist on the launch date for Halo 5 Guardians, but will be available at some time after the game has been released. WHAT!!?? BTB has been and is currently still the most played playlist in all of the Halo multiplayer games, so why would you (343i) not include this playlist from the start when it has been your most successful playlist??? I know your thinking in that you want to get the players to try and out, and hopefully love, playing Warzone because it’s your new idea and you are really excited about how the fans will react. Well how about giving the fans what they have always loved and continue to love, BTB? The numbers don’t lie, BTB always has the most amount of players, normally doubling Team Slayer at least! You should not fix something that isn’t broken. Please give the player what they want, especially since they have paid the money well in advance in most cases in order to play your game. In my opinion, you should start out with every playlist you have and see where the fans love to play. Then knock out the lowest ranking playlists to help with matchmaking speed, and then shortly after add the new map packs for free (which I think is what is going to happen) before any fans potentially leave due to playing on the same maps. It’s always awesome to get something for “free.”

This is no hate whatsoever on 343i, just some constructive criticism from a long time player of Halo who wants to see the franchise become even more successful. You guys have already listened to the fans asking for the original rocket launcher to be put back into the game, and you guys did which was AWESOME, so THANK YOU for that! It seems like Halo 5 is on the right track to being one of the best, if not the best, Halo games in the franchise. So keep up the good work, and I’ll see you on the battlefield.

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> Warzone looks fun but I personally don’t like AI in Halo multiplayer such as Spartan Ops and Fire Fight. This isn’t an insult to 343 as Bungie had this error as well (in my opinion at least). Fighting AI in campaign has always been fun, but when it came to Fire Fight or Spartan Ops, it felt as if the AI and level design had much less effort. The AI are just randomly plopped around the battlefield with no sandbox thought behind them. It gets boring and tedious. Thats why I’m not a fan of fire fight and spartan ops, yet I looove campaign. AI placement, level design, and everything is colossally better in campaign.
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> Warzone is basically a bigger BTB with AI. I like that, but could 343i maybe make a sub mode of Warzone with just 12 v 12 players and no AI? Just players having a big war without AI’s interfering? Traditional warzone can still stay (I do want to try it out), but I would like a sub mode of Warzone that is just players only fighting BTB style with 12 v 12.

Josh Holmes confirmed the workings of PvP only war zone. Although he did say if there is an outcry for an AI only war zone variant, it could be a possibility.

I’m having an issue with Warzone. When I try playing it, I get kicked out of the game after 5-10 minutes and go to the main menu. I do not know why. Anyone else have this problem or know why it is happening to me?