Warzone is the new BTB?

I loved BTB in Halo 4, but haven’t really enjoyed the games I’ve played on Halo 5 for a couple of reasons. One is most of the games are objective-based, and I love slayer. Plain and simple. The other is the maps are cluttered and difficult to navigate with vehicles as a whole, but that also doesn’t matter much because there…aren’t vehicles. At least not many.

But I’m okay with all that because Warzone gives me my BTB slayer-type fix. I can use cool weapons and vehicles, the maps are pretty good for vehicles, and I can just focus on the enemy team if I want. Is it like that for anyone else? Is Warzone the new BTB for you, or no?

I hope not.

Warzone is the baby of H4 and MOBAs.

And it’s ugly.

Not exactly.

Typically, I only play Warzone to warm up for Arena, which contains the playlists that I enjoy the most. I haven’t played BTB in a very long amount of time, but I know that Warzone isn’t it’s replacement (for me, at least) as when I play BTB, I do it for enjoyment; however, when I play Warzone, I simply do it just to warm up for other, better gametypes.

What blasphemy is this?!? How dare you speak such sacrilege to a playlist that used to stand amongst the best?!? Warzone is nothing but a ripoff, designed to feed off those poor souls who can’t find the once greatly enjoyed vehicle combat of previous BTB iterations.

Translation: Warzone will never replace BTB for me, though there may occasionally be cool vehicle oriented fights, it is a rarity, and most of the time you get killed within 2 minutes of spawning it unless you’re farming. BTB is different, or was until it got hit with a vehicle famine in halo 5. Everyone could access the same vehicles, and you normally wouldn’t have to fear 6 lasers, 4 plasma pistols, 2 hungry hijackers, and 12 battle rifles.

P.S. A guy on the forum previously said 343 don’t take maps with many vehicles on them normally for BTB or at all which in my opinion, is them attempting to move those hungry for vehicle combat to warzone.

I don’t know if I’d call it the new BTB, but it’s a solid 50% of my multiplayer time. Regular Warzone really is a fun combination of all the things I like about Halo, but Warzone Assault has surprised and become one of my favorite multiplayer experiences in all of Halo. It condenses and focuses a ton of action into pretty tight spaces and has some quality progression elements to it. I think Warzone Assault has tons of promise.

And Warzone Firefight is a solid addition for me by bringing us wave based AI combat in a format conducive to matchmaking.

Overall, if Warzone were present in prior Halos I’d likely have spent the majority of my time there (Halo 5’s overall sandbox is my favorite for 4v4 gametypes now).

When in comes to BTB… H4 BTB MCC version is better than BTB in H5. But I wouldn’t call warzone the new btb… It is its own thing. IMO

No, no it is not. Also I like that BTB is also has objective based game modes instead of straight slayer adds variety.

I think 343 knew that a very good btb with lots of vehicles, dev maps, and no reqs required would undermine warzone. Halo 5 is largely built around warzone and the req system, so I think 343 had no intention of having btb take away from that. So we got forge btb.

For me, as much as I like Warzone, No it is not a replacement for BTB. It never will be. I could rant all day about how BTB is now a shell of its former self. If they had done BTB right, it would not have taken me from Warzone. It would have just been something great to play when I get frustrated with WZ. Which will happen to most people. I’m still very resentful of what they have done with BTB. between that and having to fight organized teams in Warzone, if that is what I can expect in H6, I will not be buying it.

I don’t really think I could call the two the same. Although similar the purchasing of reqs and the ai enemies changes it. I prefer a proper BTB but like you said Halo 5’s rendition of the gamemode is not the best but not terrible. I expect very different things from warzone and BTB, each have their own merits and styles.

I kind of miss Big Team Duels XTRA. Small maps, 8v8, no vehicles, action packed. Those were the days.

You can’t farm in BTB like WZ…

343 tries to keep BTB down in H5 to promote their microtransaction farm fest (no maps, very few vehicles and those are made out of paper, too many power weapons)

Sad to see this happening as btb is my favorite Halo gametype (reach had the best btb imo), but as it looks now it won’t see any love from 343 in the near future… If they pull the same thing with btb in H6 as they did in H5 and don’t have it at launch H6 will be my first Halo I don’t buy.

PS: Seriously why is 343 against vehicles? They made them super easy to kill, removed cover, put sneaky paths on all maps, cut vehicle routes and made small arms super effective against them (a br shouldn’t even scratch a tanks health)