warzone firefight needs a tweek

i have played a lot of WF since the update and i have noticed that the round objectives are random every time. some maps are alright, they are difficult but doable. like the new sanctum map, hard map but definitely doable. but then there are some maps like noctus and darkstar, that if you are unlucky enough, u will get the early round objective to defend! for example on noctus, you sometimes get an objective to defend the forerunner core. which sounds simple right? the only problem is you have to do it on round 2 usually, and the highest level of reqs you will have by then is probably level 2 or level 3 (if your lucky) and the round is full of soldiers, crawlers and a TON of knights. the round seems pretty easy until the knights come in, and they dont just come in one by one. about 12 of them come in at once and you and your team really don’t stand a chance. so then you end up failing at round 2, which will always be frustrating. and then there’s darkstar, which if your unlucky enough you will fail on round 1, this is also a defend objective. where you have to defend the armory from prometheans. the problem with this objective is that the armory is such a small room. and you have to be inside it or on top to defend it. so for the first 30 seconds its fine. but then a knight with a scatter shot and hundreds of crawlers spawn downstairs, and like 15 soldiers spawn on the roof. so then you get demolished by the soldiers on top, and by the knight on the bottom. you don’t really get a chance to enter the base after a minute. especially the bottom. because the knight downstairs has a scattershot, and in a small room like the armory, there isn’t anywhere you can really hide where the knight can’t shoot you. plus there is also like 50 crawlers with the knight. and you only have a pistol and assault rifle to defend yourself (keep in mind you only have level 1 reqs on round 1) my point it… some objectives on WF are just too unfair to get at such a low round. i wouldn’t mind if the objective came at round 3 or 4 (when we actually have higher level reqs) but sadly, they never do…

So you get a hard objective, lose and start another game? At least here, you haven’t wasted any REQs, get some points and start again within 10 minutes. It’s fine the way it is… you could go play regular Warzone and risk getting farmed for 20 minutes and wasting REQs trying to get out of it, or WZ Assault and risk getting paired against an organized team that core’s you in the first ten minutes. Random is fun, you shouldn’t be able to win EVERY game of FF.

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> So you get a hard objective, lose and start another game? At least here, you haven’t wasted any REQs, get some points and start again within 10 minutes. It’s fine the way it is… you could go play regular Warzone and risk getting farmed for 20 minutes and wasting REQs trying to get out of it, or WZ Assault and risk getting paired against an organized team that core’s you in the first ten minutes. Random is fun, you shouldn’t be able to win EVERY game of FF.

but you should be able to get a chance to win in any circumstance. but at the moment, you dont

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> > So you get a hard objective, lose and start another game? At least here, you haven’t wasted any REQs, get some points and start again within 10 minutes. It’s fine the way it is… you could go play regular Warzone and risk getting farmed for 20 minutes and wasting REQs trying to get out of it, or WZ Assault and risk getting paired against an organized team that core’s you in the first ten minutes. Random is fun, you shouldn’t be able to win EVERY game of FF.
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> but you should be able to get a chance to win in any circumstance. but at the moment, you dont

I won a game that had defend as the very first objective yesterday… it’s possible if you are organized and have a decent team with you, so yes you do.

I also won a game on darkstar with defend as the first round. I see too many people complaining that the mode is “too hard” yet they refuse to work as a team with randos. WZFF should be very difficult likes its predecessor. -Yoink- kids are going to ruin this mode.

defend objectives are a pretty winnable one i think. you don’t HAVE to be inside, and its actually easier to work from outside. just have to watch the new enemy spawns.

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> i have played a lot of WF since the update and i have noticed that the round objectives are random every time. some maps are alright, they are difficult but doable. like the new sanctum map, hard map but definitely doable. but then there are some maps like noctus and darkstar, that if you are unlucky enough, u will get the early round objective to defend! for example on noctus, you sometimes get an objective to defend the forerunner core. which sounds simple right? the only problem is you have to do it on round 2 usually, and the highest level of reqs you will have by then is probably level 2 or level 3 (if your lucky) and the round is full of soldiers, crawlers and a TON of knights. the round seems pretty easy until the knights come in, and they dont just come in one by one. about 12 of them come in at once and you and your team really don’t stand a chance. so then you end up failing at round 2, which will always be frustrating. and then there’s darkstar, which if your unlucky enough you will fail on round 1, this is also a defend objective. where you have to defend the armory from prometheans. the problem with this objective is that the armory is such a small room. and you have to be inside it or on top to defend it. so for the first 30 seconds its fine. but then a knight with a scatter shot and hundreds of crawlers spawn downstairs, and like 15 soldiers spawn on the roof. so then you get demolished by the soldiers on top, and by the knight on the bottom. you don’t really get a chance to enter the base after a minute. especially the bottom. because the knight downstairs has a scattershot, and in a small room like the armory, there isn’t anywhere you can really hide where the knight can’t shoot you. plus there is also like 50 crawlers with the knight. and you only have a pistol and assault rifle to defend yourself (keep in mind you only have level 1 reqs on round 1) my point it… some objectives on WF are just too unfair to get at such a low round. i wouldn’t mind if the objective came at round 3 or 4 (when we actually have higher level reqs) but sadly, they never do…

Did the armory one yesterday on round 1 with randoms, was fine?

Kill one and use their own weapons, they seem massively more effective.

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> I also won a game on darkstar with defend as the first round. I see too many people complaining that the mode is “too hard” yet they refuse to work as a team with randos. WZFF should be very difficult likes its predecessor. -Yoink- kids are going to ruin this mode.

Right, we’ll just work as a hive mind even though not a single person has mics.

There’s no strategizing that needs to be done here, so no need to get on your high horse. The fact is that it is just not possible to kill thirty knights when all you have are battle rifles and Ghosts.

Just because you “Can do it” doesn’t excuse the fact its just poor game design and in doing so alienates a huge section of the gaming population who just want to have fun in the game mode.

I’ll repeat this on every firefight thread, nerf the current version and make a harder version as a featured playlist like turbo.

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> Just because you “Can do it” doesn’t excuse the fact its just poor game design and in doing so alienates a huge section of the gaming population who just want to have fun in the game mode.
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> I’ll repeat this on every firefight thread, nerf the current version and make a harder version as a featured playlist like turbo.

perfect solution to keep everyone happy. Also needed in my opinion, I can see myself quitting halo again because of being thrown in with ransoms’ who seemingly have never even seen a controller before, let alone know how to use one. FF as it stands is not possible to lone wolf, and that’s what 90% of the teams I get matched with try to do.