Disclaimer I know this isn’t the final build that is being shown and I know things could always change.
One thing I keep noticing with the ai in war zone especially when it comes to the bosses is that they seem too easy to kill and they are not nearly as aggressive as they should be. Just saw a video of warden eternal in war zone and instead of going crazy and swinging that sword at people he stood and walked. He isn’t the only boss that has behaved that way either. I find that downright disappointing and I hope thats changes either in the final build or sometime after it.
I feel like war zone could also use more ai enemies as the maps are big and from watching there doesn’t seem to be that much action when you are not near a base. I hope that changes also.
Yeah I’ve watched some of the new gameplays, and the Hunters seem to be more than boss-worthy, but the Elite Assassin sat staring at a cave wall while he got shredded by the players. The boss AI seem a bit inconsistent, to say the least.
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> 1) bosses should not have health bars, nor should those health bars give away their positions
> 2) an Elite assassin should be invisible and should run rampant around the map with an energy sword, the only way to see him coming is motion tracker
> 3) Hunters seem alright
> 4) Haven’t seen the warden eternal yet…I’m guessing he is a bullet sponge
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> warzone looks fun but it is not even close to reaching its full potential
Looks can be very deceiving, if Warzone drops in population because of Btb I wouldn’t be surprised.
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> > 1) bosses should not have health bars, nor should those health bars give away their positions
> > 2) an Elite assassin should be invisible and should run rampant around the map with an energy sword, the only way to see him coming is motion tracker
> > 3) Hunters seem alright
> > 4) Haven’t seen the warden eternal yet…I’m guessing he is a bullet sponge
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> > warzone looks fun but it is not even close to reaching its full potential
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> Looks can be very deceiving, if Warzone drops in population because of Btb I wouldn’t be surprised.
Agreed, if these AI are not fun to fight and just stand around with a target on their head waiting to be killed then all they really are is a distraction, and know what will probably have 12 v 12 with no distractions? Big team Battle
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> > 1) bosses should not have health bars, nor should those health bars give away their positions
> > 2) an Elite assassin should be invisible and should run rampant around the map with an energy sword, the only way to see him coming is motion tracker
> > 3) Hunters seem alright
> > 4) Haven’t seen the warden eternal yet…I’m guessing he is a bullet sponge
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> > warzone looks fun but it is not even close to reaching its full potential
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> Looks can be very deceiving, if Warzone drops in population because of Btb I wouldn’t be surprised.
Darn… Now that is something I would hate to see.
If you asked me a month ago, I probably wouldn’t have cared, but the Raid on Apex 7 gameplay (even just so far) is pure gold. I’ve found myself laughing at the enemy dialogue a few times as well…
If all else fails, Warzone will most definitely gather the Planetside and MOBA crowd. But it’s up to 343 to advertise that to them.
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> > > 1) bosses should not have health bars, nor should those health bars give away their positions
> > > 2) an Elite assassin should be invisible and should run rampant around the map with an energy sword, the only way to see him coming is motion tracker
> > > 3) Hunters seem alright
> > > 4) Haven’t seen the warden eternal yet…I’m guessing he is a bullet sponge
> > > warzone looks fun but it is not even close to reaching its full potential
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> > Looks can be very deceiving, if Warzone drops in population because of Btb I wouldn’t be surprised.
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> Darn… Now that is something I would hate to see.
> If you asked me a month ago, I probably wouldn’t have cared, but the Raid on Apex 7 gameplay (even just so far) is pure gold. I’ve found myself laughing at the enemy dialogue a few times as well…
> If all else fails, Warzone will most definitely gather the Plantside and MOBA crowd. But it’s up to 343 to advertise that to them.
Not sure I agree with the MOBA part but definitely can see it appealing to the following:
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> > > > 2684064956505966;6:
> > > > 1) bosses should not have health bars, nor should those health bars give away their positions
> > > > 2) an Elite assassin should be invisible and should run rampant around the map with an energy sword, the only way to see him coming is motion tracker
> > > > 3) Hunters seem alright
> > > > 4) Haven’t seen the warden eternal yet…I’m guessing he is a bullet sponge
> > > > warzone looks fun but it is not even close to reaching its full potential
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> > >
> > > Looks can be very deceiving, if Warzone drops in population because of Btb I wouldn’t be surprised.
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> > Darn… Now that is something I would hate to see.
> > If you asked me a month ago, I probably wouldn’t have cared, but the Raid on Apex 7 gameplay (even just so far) is pure gold. I’ve found myself laughing at the enemy dialogue a few times as well…
> > If all else fails, Warzone will most definitely gather the Plantside and MOBA crowd. But it’s up to 343 to advertise that to them.
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> Not sure I agree with the MOBA part but definitely can see it appealing to the following:
> 1) Planetside crowd, for sure
> 2) Battlefield crowd
> 3) Fans of Dominion from Halo 4.
Battlefield? I don’t think so they either are still playing BF4 not hardline( well most Bf4 players anyway) plus Bf4 has 16v16 and above. Plus Battlefront 3 with 20v20(this game hopefully fixes their stuff in time). Not sure why any actual BF4 player would leave to play Warzone when BF4 has way more to offer compared to Warzone.
Watch rul’s raid on apex and fast forward to 18:50 and watch from there. The warden’s behavior is really upsetting me, he targets vehicles but gives no -Yoinks!- about the players not in vehicles and he dies too quickly. The ai don’t seem nearly as aggressive as they need to be. Played mass effect 3s multiplayer a lot and the ai on that are aggressive and smart to their roles.
Love the aesthetics of the maps but what’s the point when there are very few ai creatures on it? I would up the player count to 18 vs 18 then add more ai around the maps.
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> Watch rul’s raid on apex and fast forward to 18:50 and watch from there. The warden’s behavior is really upsetting me, he targets vehicles but gives no -Yoinks!- about the players not in vehicles and he dies too quickly. The ai don’t seem nearly as aggressive as they need to be. Played mass effect 3s multiplayer a lot and the ai on that are aggressive and smart to their roles.
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> Love the aesthetics of the maps but what’s the point when there are very few ai creatures on it? I would add the player count to 18 vs 18 then add more ai around the maps.
Just seems sooo big with not enough population to fill in areas of the map.
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> > Watch rul’s raid on apex and fast forward to 18:50 and watch from there. The warden’s behavior is really upsetting me, he targets vehicles but gives no -Yoinks!- about the players not in vehicles and he dies too quickly. The ai don’t seem nearly as aggressive as they need to be. Played mass effect 3s multiplayer a lot and the ai on that are aggressive and smart to their roles.
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> > Love the aesthetics of the maps but what’s the point when there are very few ai creatures on it? I would add the player count to 18 vs 18 then add more ai around the maps.
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> Just seems sooo big with not enough population to fill in areas of the map.
First thing I would nix is the marine AI, they just seem to be a non factor, get them out of there and replace them with enemies
AI seems okay, like sure if you are good at Halo they are a bit easy but you have to think warzone is for everyone who just wants to have fun and kill things using the entire sandbox in one session. If the AI are like LASO difficulty then that would be no fun for the real casual players who just want to hop on and have a bit of fun. I think that is why for more hardcore players we can obviously fight each other nothing like fighting other human players.
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> AI seems okay, like sure if you are good at Halo they are a bit easy but you have to think warzone is for everyone who just wants to have fun and kill things using the entire sandbox in one session. If the AI are like LASO difficulty then that would be no fun for the real casual players who just want to hop on and have a bit of fun. I think that is why for more hardcore players we can obviously fight each other nothing like fighting other human players.
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> > AI seems okay, like sure if you are good at Halo they are a bit easy but you have to think warzone is for everyone who just wants to have fun and kill things using the entire sandbox in one session. If the AI are like LASO difficulty then that would be no fun for the real casual players who just want to hop on and have a bit of fun. I think that is why for more hardcore players we can obviously fight each other nothing like fighting other human players.
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> They seem too easy for even the causal people.n
I dunno the AI seems a bit random I’ve seen them kill some decent ish players so they are not super terrible. Difficult to balance though as casuals skill level varies tremendously I mean you have some guys who are level 50 in Halo 3 & 2 but would still be considered casual I guess as they don’t enter tourneys etc, then you have your other level 1 casuals who still enjoy playing Halo MP but struggle to hit a stationary target the size of a tank.
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> > > 1) bosses should not have health bars, nor should those health bars give away their positions
> > > 2) an Elite assassin should be invisible and should run rampant around the map with an energy sword, the only way to see him coming is motion tracker
> > > 3) Hunters seem alright
> > > 4) Haven’t seen the warden eternal yet…I’m guessing he is a bullet sponge
> > >
> > > warzone looks fun but it is not even close to reaching its full potential
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> >
> > Looks can be very deceiving, if Warzone drops in population because of Btb I wouldn’t be surprised.
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> Agreed, if these AI are not fun to fight and just stand around with a target on their head waiting to be killed then all they really are is a distraction, and know what will probably have 12 v 12 with no distractions? Big team Battle
They already said that BTB will still be 8v8 but they also said that there will be a Warzone Variant without AI.
