warning: 343 want to censor the truth

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guys this is the topic they locked because they don’t want you read and comment

[LOCKED] MICROTRANSACTIONS: A BAD WAY TO STEAL FROM KIDS?
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/29568daf8cd14083bd1b70a810bf3581/topics/microtransactions-a-bad-way-to-steal-from-kids/c345c789-1013-4db0-b599-d33f9458cdb8/posts

as a free man i have the rights to ask to people for their opinions and talk about mine but 343 don’t want to give me this chance.

anyway can i hear here your opinions? are microtransactions a bad way to steal money from kids play videogames?

thank you for your attention

You have rights to let your thoughts be heard. But as a private company they have the ability to police their boards. They’ve allowed plenty of threads about the subject before. They are not trying to hid by blocking your thread. And making a thread about that is a good way to get banned or it locked.
If I had to guess I’d say it was locked because the tone of the thread was not you promoting conversation but just called 343 bad and others wrong.

I agree Microtransactions are annoying. But as long as they don’t give someone an advantage over me and let me get DLC for free I can live with them.

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> You have rights to let your thoughts be heard. But as a private company they have the ability to police their boards. They’ve allowed plenty of threads about the subject before. They are not trying to hid by blocking your thread. And making a thread about that is a good way to get banned or it locked.
> If I had to guess I’d say it was locked because the tone of the thread was not you promoting conversation but just called 343 bad and others wrong.
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> I agree Microtransactions are annoying. But as long as they don’t give someone an advantage over me and let me get DLC for free I can live with them.

The free dlc they gave us are forged maps you can do by yourself… that is fooling people who pays for microtransactions!

Insinuating that 343 Industries is looking to steal money from kids and people with disabilities (rather specific I must say) is nowhere close to having a civili conversation. You will not be censored for disliking micro transactions. If that were the case then I’d have been banned years ago and Major Halo community influencers blacklisted. Neither has happened. You chose an unproductive way to make your point and have violated the forum rules with this post (talking about moderator decisions and reposting already locked content).

I’ll give my input. When I was growing up, I wasn’t even allowed within 100 miles of any credit or debit card, let alone my parents’. If kids are actually purchasing items in games, be it Halo (which is a Mature franchise), or any other game, then you have nobody to blame but the parents for letting their kids buy them. Let’s face it, some parents just don’t care if their kids buy crap in games, I mean just look at how Fortnite made its fortune. I on the other hand wasn’t even allowed to buy stuff even if I offered to work for it with chores or any other kind of labor.

Also, Halo’s microtransactions are really not that bad compared to some other games. Some are very bad, I’ll admit, but I’m not going to forbid a person’s right to spend their money how they want.

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> I’ll give my input. When I was growing up, I wasn’t even allowed within 100 miles of any credit or debit card, let alone my parents’. If kids are actually purchasing items in games, be it Halo (which is a Mature franchise), or any other game, then you have nobody to blame but the parents for letting their kids buy them. Let’s face it, some parents just don’t care if their kids buy crap in games, I mean just look at how Fortnite made its fortune. I on the other hand wasn’t even allowed to buy stuff even if I offered to work for it with chores or any other kind of labor.
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> Also, Halo’s microtransactions are really not that bad compared to some other games. Some are very bad, I’ll admit, but I’m not going to forbid a person’s right to spend their money how they want.

omg you again… i meet you in every topic defending at all cost 343, why you don’t understand? or maybe… you dont’t want to understand because you are a 343 member?

anyway i’ll explain to you how things work: parents give a budget to their kids so they can spend it for what they want. 343 offer overpriced skins, mega weapons, pay to win etc… and kids want to buy them instead of a full game. good job 343! you finally stoled from a kid!! how do you feel earning money like that?

now tell me if that does not mean stealing

You said too: “Also, Halo’s microtransactions are really not that bad compared to some other games. Some are very bad, I’ll admit, but I’m not going to forbid a person’s right to spend their money how they want”
so from your point of view if they don’t steal a lot like the other ones they are not bad people… really interesting

anyway i don’t forbid nothing to anyelse, everyone can choose to throw out of the window their money, but is for that reason that exist companies like 343

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> Insinuating that 343 Industries is looking to steal money from kids and people with disabilities (rather specific I must say) is nowhere close to having a civili conversation. You will not be censored for disliking micro transactions. If that were the case then I’d have been banned years ago and Major Halo community influencers blacklisted. Neither has happened. You chose an unproductive way to make your point and have violated the forum rules with this post (talking about moderator decisions and reposting already locked content).

why? is not that true? most of people who buy microtransactions in games are who don’t know the real value of money.
I’m here to hear all you guys but want explanations too.
I explained my point of view and i’m free to tell you, then you can agree or not.

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> > Insinuating that 343 Industries is looking to steal money from kids and people with disabilities (rather specific I must say) is nowhere close to having a civili conversation. You will not be censored for disliking micro transactions. If that were the case then I’d have been banned years ago and Major Halo community influencers blacklisted. Neither has happened. You chose an unproductive way to make your point and have violated the forum rules with this post (talking about moderator decisions and reposting already locked content).
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> why? is not that true? most of people who buy microtransactions in games are who don’t know the real value of money.
> I’m here to hear all you guys but want explanations too.
> I explained my point of view and i’m free to tell you, then you can agree or not.

Do you have evidence to back your claim that, “most people who buy microtransactions don’t know the real value of money?”

Certainly kids might buy them, but plenty of able-bodied adults do too. Also, just saying, your stance comes off as highly condescending towards those with disabilities.

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> > > 2533274812652989;4:
> > > Insinuating that 343 Industries is looking to steal money from kids and people with disabilities (rather specific I must say) is nowhere close to having a civili conversation. You will not be censored for disliking micro transactions. If that were the case then I’d have been banned years ago and Major Halo community influencers blacklisted. Neither has happened. You chose an unproductive way to make your point and have violated the forum rules with this post (talking about moderator decisions and reposting already locked content).
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> > why? is not that true? most of people who buy microtransactions in games are who don’t know the real value of money.
> > I’m here to hear all you guys but want explanations too.
> > I explained my point of view and i’m free to tell you, then you can agree or not.
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> Do you have evidence to back your claim that, “most people who buy microtransactions don’t know the real value of money?”
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> Certainly kids might buy them, but plenty of able-bodied adults do too. Also, just saying, your stance comes off as highly condescending towards those with disabilities.

I have never said they are all kids or people with disabilities, but there are a lot in the middle. So if you know this aspect why are you continuing?

You said “Also, just saying, your stance comes off as highly condescending towards those with disabilities.”
No sorry but i’m only defending all people who can’t choose for himself

Well Evil Agency has denounced microtransactions and Loot Boxes in their next $tar War$ game. Now 343 is not Bungie and you could say Req paqs were forced on them as the market trend (and possibly from Microsoft). But we will see if they try to keep the “player focused” system or actually make good with the fans.

I got Halo 4, it was not that good, but being mediocre in a beloved franchised is forgivable and I don’t regret purchasing the game.
I did not purchase Halo 5 and Halo Wars 2. $60 and they didn’t even include $60 worth of packs but expecting us to grind or preferably (for them) insert a credit card like we are in some sleazy adult chat phone line. Yeah, there is no way that I will touch that game.

Now that being said I understand market is all for Lives Services (thanks to EA and Activision) so if Req packs are still in then I expect some concession on parts of the consumers to be made by 343 and these are significant concessions. The way I see it 343 has three options for monetizing this game

  • Either the game is free to download in which free2play but features are ala carte’ business models are acceptable at least at a consumer fairness system. - $60 (or retail equivalent) worth of Req Packs are free on purchase of game. In other words, if I pay $60 for this game then I immediately expect $60 worth of value and no not even Halo 3/Reach is worth $60 if it is riddled with microtransactions. I expect these lootboxes upfront available on purchase and the value of said loot boxes if I were to purchase them separately must meet or exceed what I paid for from the store. - Stick to the old model that was good for the past Halo games. As a live service sell seasonal DLC as needed. There, these are my conditions 343 only has to meet one of them. Now of course they are under no obligation to meet them and can release their business model as they see fit, but I am under no obligation to purchase their games or publicly support them in any form whatsoever. I believe in the free market and “free capitalism”, not this anti-consumer, investor driven, consumer capitalism b***$#!7. Any player that voices support for such practices are merely chattel to the corporate overlords. If 343 can’t make Halo a franchise worth the legacy it left when it was with Bungie, I would not shed a tear when Microsoft inevitably closes its doors and gives halo to whatever Yes-Person developer they want, but by then I would have moved on like so many other gamers.