Want to hear a crazy thing about the new proposed MTX?

I do fight!
Look at how much I fought for the cosmetics I own in Siege!
I possess the Diamond Skin.

All I am saying is that at least they are also letting us grind for cosmetics still.
Unlike Halo Infinite where you pay for everything that isn’t part of the Event Pass lineup.

If you can pay for points MCC will be no different than Infinite. There will be no grind, noting worth working for when you can skip all the work.

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But they have stated that Spartan points can be earned as well as bought.
And considering how lazy 343 Industries is about reworking content in games that they have already made, we will still have plenty of points earned through MCC’s challenge system (which is FAR superior than compared to Halo Infinite’s challenge system) and through leveling up. So I doubt that they would put much effort in rigging the system that hard.

Infinite doesn’t even have players earn Credits.
The ones you earn in the Battle Pass just repay the cost you paid for the pass.

They also said that Cosmetics would be earned from only playing the game for Infinite. Also there will be no confusion as to where cosmetics are from cos it comes from one place, the battlepass only.

Benny Hill theme

Also use your brain for a moment. If they truly want the best for players AND earn money, they should have added a DLC to unlock ALL items. Not just single points.

Having ALL items unlocked fits the “New player” excuse better.

All they are doing is being predatory on players who are impatient because you know how MCC season pass works? You have to complete each set of 10 before next set unlocks.

This means if you want something tier 95 or something, you need to pay for all 90 tiers before that last 10. Wake tf up sheep.

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They had to break that promise due to the amount of money they owed the Corporate Investors because of how many delays they made to Halo Infinite.
They missed their initial launch date and had to price-gouge us to ensure that they didn’t have to pay in deeper to a class-action lawsuit for failure to adhere to contract.

Updated my post. Reread and tell me you still think it’s a good idea.

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Video Games cost A LOT OF MONEY these days, especially AAA games.
Halo Infinite, for all we know, has been a financial failure.
So they are likely trying to ensure that they compensate for the loss of money.
After all, 343 and Microsoft aren’t announcing their income from Halo Infinite.

DLCs are no longer profitable anyway.
Map Packs these days are free content updates because studios make enough money from lootboxes such so that they do not need to charge money for such things.

Thankfully they have said that we will earn Spartan Tokens.
Hopefully this is a promise that doesn’t get broken.

MCC cost alot of money? Everything’s basically already made years ago. Why do you not see that’s the entire problem?
People don’t want MTX on a game that’s that old.

Anything new 343 has added isn’t enough to warrant MTX. (Heck, I even mentioned in another post that if they wanna MTX MCC, they should have at least ported in H5, and given content updates every 3 months for awhile then consider MTX)

Not to mention MCC if you buy it in its entirety without sales, is almost the same price as Halo Infinite.

PS: Halo Infinite’s finanical failure is 1000% their own fault.

  1. They released a buggy mess that’s basically unfinished
  2. They released it for free, expecting players to prop it up with MTX
  3. They failed to provide the live service, causing Infinite to hemorrage players in half a month
  4. They failed to even appease the fanbase remaining, causing more players to leave

If your reason to support 343 monetarily is for the “future of Halo” I think you’re preaching to the converted. It’s a majority popular opinion that Halo needs to be handed off to another studio or cease to exist.

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“Give an inch and they take a mile”.

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I’m talking about Halo Infinite, which boasted a budget of $500 Million.
Typically companies want to make a 20% profit off of the money amount they put into the game.
So that means that for Microsoft to deem the development of Halo Infinite to be viable, that means that 343 has to earn $600 Million within a certain timeframe to make it profitable.

Since I doubt they are earning that much money, given how people are super angry about cosmetic shopping; MCC is likely getting a microtransaction attached to increase profits in order to compensate for the lack of money that they were expecting to make.

Gods -Yoink!- Rambo I was talking to the OP again!

EDIT: I know damn well you fight!

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500 Million and thats all we got, that is the saddest thing about Halo Infinite

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“The grind for points is insane instead of fixing the grind to better speed it along, lets just let people pay us to get what they want”

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Here is a summary of what went wrong during development and WHY it cost $500 million in the first place.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIZ77jP0Jgg

The mentality of “You don’t HAVE to buy it” is a very slippery slope that is responsible for the sad state of AAA games being overly monetized at the detriment of the experience.

Microtransactions are never okay.

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Spartan points shouldn’t be purchasable in MCC, full stop. MCC is a collection of games up to 2 decades old to a decade old, microtransactions have no place here.

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I’m not defending it FYI.

I am just stating the most likely reasons behind such change and THANKING THE GODS that we can still grind for our goods!

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AKA “We’re gonna make the point grind insane. Give me money”

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proceeds to grind a rail with my skateboard while wearing roller blades, grinding the enemy with my Gears of War mulcher gun in one hand while grinding the rail I am grinding on with an electric grinder to create cool sparks effect, all while dressed in a cool t-shirt that says “Respect the Grind” in bold text

You don’t have to buy it. Just play the game as you have been, and unlock the cosmetics as you see fit.

We all know that the direction MTX takes us down is bad. 99 times out of 100, it makes games worse. Why defend a step in the wrong direction? I concede that if 343 sticks to their promise and only makes spartan points purchasable and does nothing else to add MTX to MCC, it may not hurt the game in a huge way. But why trust them? Why take the risk? Why greenlight and defend a decision that is the first step down a dark path? We all know how this ends.

Big gaming companies have always taken over great franchises, and then, consumed by greed, whored them out for as much cash as possible. That, or they bled the studios that made the great games dry. Think Pandemic Studios, the geniuses behind the original Star Wars Battlefront Games, or Ensemble Studios, the masterminds behind Age of Empires. There is an obvious cycle here. Big company acquires a lucrative success, made by smart, brilliant people. Then they milk it and squeeze it dry until it is utterly spent. I don’t want that for Halo, and I don’t know why anyone would.

And, maybe (just a dream) 343 will make enough money from the mtx, on this 8 year old game, we will see many more years of support and new content.

To your point about how maybe if MCC makes more money, 343 will update it more - people would happily pay for DLC with new content, cosmetic and otherwise. That’s the way to make money off of MCC: give fans what they want. I’d pay for Flood FF, and I’d pay for other great ideas if they wanted to sell them.

As others have pointed out, what’s to stop 343 from eliminating some avenues to earn spartan points already in the game? If they’re adding MTX, why not go the extra step, maybe a few months from now, of making it so you only earn spartan points the first 50 ranks you get? Or maybe make it so instead of 12 spartan-point-earning challenges each week, there are only 6? Maybe monthly challenges disappear? I don’t care that they said they are happy with how players earn points currently and would only add purchasable spartan points on the side. They also said they would never add MTX to MCC, and look how that one turned out. Believing that adding MTX will start and end with making spartan points purchasable is naïve. If they can get this by us, why stop there? Do you trust a greedy megacorp? It’s not like they have a great track record with halo anyway…

Why would you go out of your way to not only excuse a blatantly manipulative, anti-consumer business practice, when there are better solutions to the “how can MCC make money + get new content” problem, but encourage it? Do you not realize just how useful you are to big gaming megacorporations like Microsoft? Don’t be the yes-man who defends giant juggernaut companies against consumers who are sick and tired of being ripped off time and time again. Don’t be that person. Please.

Edit: This post was hidden by the censors. It should be heard.

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