Want to hear a crazy thing about the new proposed MTX?

You don’t have to buy it. Just play the game as you have been, and unlock the cosmetics as you see fit. And, maybe (just a dream) 343 will make enough money from the mtx, on this 8 year old game, we will see many more years of support and new content.

Everyone knows this game was a failure at launch. But after many years of free support and updates, there is more to this game than I ever expected would be. Anything else added, would just make it sweeter.

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This “Don’t like it, Don’t buy it” kind of mindset and acceptance for MTX even being added will only encourage 343 to add more and more MTX until they ruin the ONLY good post-Bungie era Halo title. We need to draw a line in the sand before it even starts.

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Do you walk into a store, and expect everything you see for free? At least in a game, these purchases are just a cosmetic item for your Spartan. Nothing that actually effects gameplay. In the past, mtx were pay to win. Thank God this is no longer true.

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Microtransactions do not make the game “sweeter”

The profits they make are almost certainly not going to be funneled in to making more content for the game.

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I can’t truthfully disagree, but since cosmetic mtx have become the norm, I have not paid a cent to play my favorite game. Every update, new map, or gametype added, I have had fun playing, but no money needed. Not all bad.

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The store analogy doesn’t really work when all players have to purchase the game. They are entitled to every bit of data they payed for, cosmetics included.

Im not staunchly against MTX in MCC with at least what’s been proposed, but your rhetoric doesn’t apply here.

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Never heard of Costco? Just kidding. This game came out years ago, and in a poor state. In the following years, there was massive updates to the game. These should have not been needed, but such is life. Now, 343 wants to add more content, beyond what could ever have been conceived years ago. If this takes more money, then so be it.

I, and you, will probably never buy anything. But if someone that is behind in the Season’s wants to have it all, then what is the harm?

What with the store analogy? You recieve for free the game copy when you purchase a xbox o a PC? Idk about u,but i had to pay for the game and the dlcs, and im not going to pay for any more.

MTX is a bad idea.

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Because of users like the creator of this post, the Halo franchise is so sunk. This is the perfect example of why Halo Infinite is sinking into misery. If there is no community with criteria that understands that not everything in life is “accept it or shut up” we will never have a worthy product.

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ok, go work for 8 years, with no pay, even if you love your job. Then get back to me.

See this, this is the mindset that pushes gaming companies to be greedy, no longer the quality of the game, but only the consumers pockets

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You say greedy, but for me, MCC has been a gift that keeps on giving. So they are adding a way to buy Spartan points. HOW DOES THIS CHANGE THE GAME? It does not. Just continue to play, as you want. You do NOT need to buy anything.

My problem with this argument is that most of the people behind it have no idea how much money 343 makes from this game. Zero clue.

It’s simply a faulty defense designed to take your focus off the real problem. Microtransactions being exploitative in nature.

I have some sympathy for 343, but not so much that I’d blatantly ignore obvious issues staring me in the face.

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Are you serious??? Microtransactions and EXPLOIT are the same exact word, we will NOT stand 343 ruining what remains of the original Bungie games!

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People like you, are the reason why the companies continue with this mtx bs. If its a free to play title or not, the content of a game should be obtainable, not purchasable. No matter how old it is or whatever. The companies are getting their money eitherway. Especially nowadays. Thats why the gaming industry is bigger than music and sports together. There is ZERO reason to put content behind a paywall or sell it extra. It has been made for the game. So put it in the game for the players, to unlock it, for gods sake. Without making it a ripoff. Which the mtx stores/shops are, all the time. And at this point, it isnt even MICRO transaction anymore.

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Normalizing mtx just prioritizes that over the quality of the game itself. Its not good. MCC will be getting less and less updates to gameplay and more updates to mtx. Thats the problem.

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Sorry to type so much, but this is actually a pretty complex issue. The TL;DR is that 343 is not trustworthy and ignoring the problem allows more poor decisions to be made. Here’s the rant:

Game studios, not just 343, show time and time again that if you let one thing stay, they will push toward the extreme. “Just don’t buy it” is a bad argument because it is just willfully ignoring a scummy system that can be prevented.

People were already annoyed with how points are given anyway. And instead of fixing these issues they want to sell us a quick-fix instead of addressing the problem.

And yeah, on paper it sounds fine. Not that intrusive, but game publishers are never happy leaving things as they are. They just have to push and push to squeeze more money out of us for less content. Sure season points will be purchasable, but what if they choose to make us pay for the next series? What if they sell armor bundles like Infinite? Sure, I sound crazy and paranoid, but fact of the matter is that this is exactly what is happening!!! And has been happening for over 20 years! It is an industry problem, not a 343 problem!

Just look at the history of DLC. It started off as expansions, for the price of half the base game, you get what feels like a whole new game. Then expansions began to be smaller. Then you could buy digital extra cosmetics. Then DLC is made cheaper, but split apart into smaller packages. So then season-passes are being sold so you pay ahead to get any extra stuff that comes out at a discount. But then it became clear that most of the content being sold, was meant to be part of the base game. They are selling half a game, then turning around and selling the other half. Then there are the “day one” DLC’s that made that point even clearer. Multiplayer map packs separate the fan base into those with DLC and those without. Then loot boxes came around randomizing what content you can get, further trying to get your wallet. But what would normally be DLC was turned into modern updates. But then costmetics began to be sold because they “don’t effect gameplay” (Which I argue if that was the case, why aren’t we just sticks throwing balls and just sell the artstyle to you if looks don’t matter, but I’m off topic now)

Halo did exactly this. ODST was meant to be DLC, but sold on its own once it got too big to be a DLC (at the time) Halo 3 had map packs, as did Reach, but you couldn’t play half the maps because most people didn’t have them. Halo 4 sold DLC armor with map packs, Halo 5 went to loot boxes, and now Infinite modern free to play store, which itself was overpriced and inconsistent, discounted down, then began rising again but still inconsistent. Now they are taking what was already a collection of old games given new items, not for free because the PC players were paying for the game piece-meal or all at once. The xbox people were essentially piggy-backing off of PC players content because they are “early adopters” (I mean in pure economic terms, not literal.) I agree that the money comes from somewhere in order to make new content. But this decision is largely unnecessary because we have Infinite, which I will get into where the money should be coming from later.

So with all that in mind, again, this decision in a vacuum is fine. It doesn’t mess with the current way to add points. But will 343 stop here, or will they find other means to make more money? History, both old and recent, and both as an industry and a studio, says the latter. Most people see this now. And sure it is “for new players or those behind” I’m behind, I don’t like this. I got the Xbox One disc in 2014 for Christmas. My parents bought the game. I moved over to PC since then and bought the game on steam. I own two versions of the same game. I spent more than the bare minimum of money on MCC and I don’t want to spend more and I don’t want to see other people spend more than what is necessary. Yeah its their money, but alot of us like to help people. My grandfather was in denial about his health and against our advice bought a new truck and died before he could use it and we had to re-sell it. That is just one of many poor decisions he did before his passing. Alot of people are healthier and make even worse economic decisions. Sorry I don’t like to keep my nose in my own business, especially when when it effects an industry, not just one person, or my family in my example. Alot of people don’t make good decisions, and those decisions are the ones they take notice of, not the ones who are already not making them money. They don’t count the money that isn’t there, they count the money that is. If something sells well, then they do more things to match it, if not, they leave it the same. They can make predictions, but that’s where they start, it isn’t continuous, but their model is continuous. It is a disconnect between what they put out and what we buy.

As for “new players” who are they expecting to buy MCC? The game had two launches and all the main lifecycle is over. the game is done, its over. They can update and add some extra stuff but this game is not their focus, Infinite is (at least supposed to be). If anything, MCC now should be treated like an employee passion project on the back-end of Infinite.

Further, Halo is one of the few series where playing dress-up is actually part of the fun in the game. Sure it doesn’t “effect gameplay” but why should I expect a game that has pushed the envelope of doing cool stuff and showing it off, or just choosing how you look, then suddenly have all that taken away and price tags put on it? Especially when the game is effectively over. I could go into Infinite’s system in detail, but I’m already zig-zagging across topics bad enough. BUT Infinite is involved because

That’s supposed to be their main cash flow for the foreseeable future. Why would they feel the need to add MTX to MCC, when it is the same studio getting money from another game/product? It doesn’t make sense that paying for MCC MTX as a main source of income supports the studio as if they aren’t already getting money from Infinite. Unless the MTX in Infinite isn’t making 343 enough money in the first place. Which if that is the case, then Infinite has its own MTX issues that they need to fix, not put their missing cashflow onto another, older product. That’s like saying the lights in one store are broken, so you take a few lights from the place next door to yours. Why did you do that instead of getting new lights in the first place!

I don’t inherently hate microtransactions. There are plenty of ways to do them well! And I have bought some stuff from Halo Infinite. But we don’t trust 343 to just end it there and we have more reasons to be suspicious than not. Ignoring it is not a solution. We can’t boycott a international, digital storefront selling digital products. You can’t organize enough people to keep the demand down, and the supply is infinite, it doesn’t rely on demand. Boycotts only work on small physical locations where money is kept locally and products are constantly manufactured. Supply keeps going up/stays high, but the demand remains deadlocked at low.

Sorry for the rant but I hope I made everything clear. I’m a writer not an economist.

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Wanna hear a crazy thing about this mtx?

They’re releasing it into an ecosystem where it is largely unneeded. If players are having “trouble” with earning Points for unlocks, then let players do daily Challenges for points instead of weekly. The matter of fact here is that they are providing a solution to a non-problem created out of their own need for monetary gain.

That’s why people are upset, that’s why people are calling out their BS. We’ve seen what they’ve done with Infinite, do you think that MCC will truly remain unmolested with this MTX change?

I’ll tell you what is gonna happen if this is pushed through: They might nerf Point gain from Rank 100 to incentivize spending.

They might nerf Weekly Challenge Point gain to incentivize spending.

Making changes to incentivize spending on this new MTX is all on the table. THIS CANNOT HAPPEN.

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Agreed, we shouldn’t accept this.

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Honestly, its not that bad.
Take a look at Rainbow Six Siege, where just about every item of cosmetic can be either grinded for or bought with money.