won’t the people who were bolt shot campers start using the plasma pistol instead? Then instead of people complaining about the bolt shot won’t people start complaining about the plasma pistol. So IMO 343i might as well remove the bolt shot and plasma pistol from loadouts.
Why stop there? Remove loadouts altogether and just let people vote for what primary weapon they want to use along with the map vote.
> Why stop there? Remove loadouts altogether and just let people vote for what primary weapon they want to use along with the map vote.
Then… what left will people have to complain about? If halo became an arena shooter again then what would people be complaining about…
People will begin complaining about how the odds are stacked against them because of n00bz
Difference between Plasma Pistol and Boltshot? PP ALWAYS gives you a chance to fight back when it hits you; 98% of the time if the Boltshot hits you, it OHKO’s you - and it has better range than the PP and Scattershot.
> Why stop there? Remove loadouts altogether and just <mark>let people vote for what primary weapon they want to use along with the map vote</mark>.
Everyone would vote for the DMR…
> Difference between Plasma Pistol and Boltshot? PP ALWAYS gives you a chance to fight back when it hits you; 98% of the time if the Boltshot hits you, it OHKO’s you - and it has better range than the PP and Scattershot.
The PP can hit you from farther away then the bolt shot and makes you a 1 shot.
This is getting old. The bolt shot is fine, so stop complaining about it. I found a perfect way to counter the people who use it, use it as well. Then you’re on fair ground.
Since when has the plasma pistol been a one shot kill? Your comparison between the two pistols is out of place.
> Since when has the plasma pistol been a one shot kill? Your comparison between the two pistols is out of place.
That’s not what I mean. I’m saying that the PP makes you a 1 shot. By 1 shot I mean when your shields break and 1 head shot can kill you.
> > Since when has the plasma pistol been a one shot kill? Your comparison between the two pistols is out of place.
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> That’s not what I mean. I’m saying that the PP makes you a 1 shot. By 1 shot I mean when your shields break and 1 head shot can kill you.
We all know that. The Boltshot kills you in one hit so your comparison is faulty. The plasma pistol has always been commonly available in Halo maps and over the years the accuracy and tracking has been perfected to where it is balanced. Charging shots up but not using them still drains power. With Boltshot, a weapon swap will save ammo. The plasmapistol tracking can easily miss no from mid-range. The Boltshot has an overly large range that it can kill with or take down shields all the way.
These are two disparate weapons. And the Plasma pistol needs to remain because of the over-abundance of vehicles.
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> > Since when has the plasma pistol been a one shot kill? Your comparison between the two pistols is out of place.
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> That’s not what I mean. I’m saying that the PP makes you a 1 shot. By 1 shot I mean when your shields break and 1 head shot can kill you.
We all know that. The Boltshot kills you in one hit so your comparison is faulty. You made a thread trying to be clever, but really you’re a -Yoink-. The plasma pistol has always been commonly available in Halo maps and over the years the accuracy and tracking has been perfected to where it is balanced. Charging shots up but not using them still drains power. With Boltshot, a weapon swap will save ammo. The plasmapistol tracking can easily miss no from mid-range. The Boltshot has an overly large range that it can kill with or take down shields all the way.
These are two disparate weapons. And the Plasma pistol needs to remain because of the over-abundance of vehicles. Gosh, you people don’t think before you make threads.
> > Since when has the plasma pistol been a one shot kill? Your comparison between the two pistols is out of place.
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> That’s not what I mean. I’m saying that the PP makes you a 1 shot. By 1 shot I mean when your shields break and 1 head shot can kill you.
The pp also has very limited homing capabilities unlike it’s Halo 2 Counterpart, the only real ways you can use it effectivly is if you use it on someone who is close-medium range and hasn’t noticed you or if you camp with it while camoed, if you used it without camo people will be able to tell because of the bright green light coming out of the corner, and even then the Boltshot suits that purpose more.
The plasma pistol is a balanced weapon that can’t be used as noobishly as something like the Boltshot.
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(1.your the one that’s being a -Yoink!-
(2.You spawn with a plasma pistol and plasma grenades so most of the vehicles in halo 4 are useless.
(3.I don’t remember trying to say that they are the similar, I’m saying that people are going to try switching of bolt shot camping to using the noob combo.
> > Why stop there? Remove loadouts altogether and just <mark>let people vote for what primary weapon they want to use along with the map vote</mark>.
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> Everyone would vote for the DMR…
This.
and we all know that not everyone wants to be a DMR guy
I think a small modification to the bolt-shot to make it louder when charging or charged, should balance it a little.
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That is why I said the PlasmaPistol must REMAIN in order to combat vehicles. Vehicles are useless because 343 made them that way, and put in way too many of them.
And the noob combo has been around since the dawn of time and is easily aviodable after Halo2. The Boltshot breaks so many combat scenarios it’s not even funny. You are trying to talk about one aspect of the game, but the point of having a sandbox is that everything affects everything else. For instance, if you remove PP and stickies then you would have to completely fix the way weapons spawn on each map in order to give players a chance to combat vehicles. If you increase the strength of vehicles but nerf the DMR then the vehicles will wreck everyone the whole game. This is the reason this game is terrible, because you’d have to redo the whole game in order to make it balanced and enjoyable.
The way it is now is that if you boltshot me and kill me, thats the end of battle. If we think about your hypothetical, then I come around the corner and let’s assume you shoot me with the plasma pistol and it lands.(which more often than not would not happen). Then from there you have 2 options: either try to melee me which a good player would not let happen because they would leave enough space between their attacker or try to switch weapons and headshot me which would take wayyyyy too long before I just have to shoot you once.
Therefore, plasma pistol does not equal boltshot in terms of winning CQC situations.
Bolt shot is a 1 hit kill from 10 feet away. Plasma EMP you…
Remove the bleed-through on the Boltshot secondary, done and done.
Plasma pistol is harder to use, drains energy while holding a charge, harder to hit with, and is not a one hit kill. I would prefer people try to camp with that.