Vote and be heard: DMR

Is the DMR fine as is or does it need a nerf.

If you want other weapons buffed just vote DMR is fine since thats an issue with other guns not the DMR

its fine people just need to adapt

It’s fine. If anything needs to be changed, it’s probably a buff to the Carbine,

I want it to be nerfed. More so for the reason that on open maps and large scale BTB maps it is essentially a mini sniper rifle, it can cross map so efficiently and much better than in Reach and promotes cover hogging, cover camping and less map movement.

> its fine people just need to adapt

Just like how people needed to adapt to armor lock? I’m sorry but I prefer a balanced sandbox. The only weapon that should be able to cross map that good and kill that quickly across map is the Sniper Rifle and other factions variants (Beam Rifle, Binary Rifle)

> its fine people just need to adapt

exactly

> I want it to be nerfed. More so for the reason that on open maps and large scale BTB maps it is essentially a mini sniper rifle, it can cross map so efficiently and much better than in Reach and promotes cover hogging, cover camping and less map movement.

You mean the gun does what its supposed to do? And it allows player to set up strategic points to disrupt enemy advance? OMG that’s so ridiculous D:

> > its fine people just need to adapt
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> Just like how people needed to adapt to armor lock? I’m sorry but I prefer a balanced sandbox. The only weapon that should be able to cross map that good and kill that quickly across map is the Sniper Rifle and other factions variants (Beam Rifle, Binary Rifle)

dude the DMR is nothing like armor lock. It doesn’t make you cheat death and everyone has access to it from day 1.

try again

> > its fine people just need to adapt
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> Just like how people needed to adapt to armor lock? I’m sorry but I prefer a balanced sandbox. The only weapon that should be able to cross map that good and kill that quickly across map is the Sniper Rifle and other factions variants (Beam Rifle, Binary Rifle)

limme guess armor lock was “op” becuase you didnt like it? it was fine i cant even stand to play reach anymore becuase of that last title update

Like other posters have said, the DMR has too much range. I can see them dropping the range and increasing damage of the Covenant Carbine…just a wee bit. That would definitely make for a balance I think. The BR is fine if they just modify the other precision weapons a tad.

> > > its fine people just need to adapt
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> > Just like how people needed to adapt to armor lock? I’m sorry but I prefer a balanced sandbox. The only weapon that should be able to cross map that good and kill that quickly across map is the Sniper Rifle and other factions variants (Beam Rifle, Binary Rifle)
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> dude the DMR is nothing like armor lock. It doesn’t make you cheat death and everyone has access to it from day 1.
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> try again

You completely misunderstood. I wasn’t saying it was like armor lock, I was saying you shouldn’t just say “people need to adapt” when it comes to things like this. They could have made the DMR a 3 shot and there would be people still saying “you just need to adapt”. Its just not a good defense for an argument, blindly putting faith into something. So yes I’ll “try again”.

> > > its fine people just need to adapt
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> > Just like how people needed to adapt to armor lock? I’m sorry but I prefer a balanced sandbox. The only weapon that should be able to cross map that good and kill that quickly across map is the Sniper Rifle and other factions variants (Beam Rifle, Binary Rifle)
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> limme guess armor lock was “op” becuase you didnt like it? it was fine i cant even stand to play reach anymore becuase of that last title update

I didn’t say that armor lock was “op” but yes it was terrible more so for the reason that people jump into it when getting beat and their team mates would come round the corner and finish you off/ You could call this tactical, I call this a terrible gameplay feature. I don’t want to get into a debate about armor lock, everyone knows what people think of it by now.

and why cant people just adapt to new things why must they demand things to be “nerfed” when its fine sure DMR has some great range but then again ive been shreded up close against a BR should it be “nerfed”?

> Like other posters have said, the DMR has too much range. I can see them dropping the range and increasing damage of the Covenant Carbine…just a wee bit. That would definitely make for a balance I think. The BR is fine if they just modify the other precision weapons a tad.

Designated Marksman Rifle = DMR
Its built for LONG RANGE why would you reduce its range?
Did you not play reach? Its built for it, its power is Balanced to the BR burst they are Equals.
I do agree on the carbine buff :slight_smile:

The issue with the DMR is it’s just too much of a power weapon to be spawning with. It’s a 5 shot kill flat out, vs. the BR 5 shot kill which you have to hit all 15 bullets in it’s bursts. The DMR fires a little more rapidly and is more accurate than any other gun, it’s a bit OP. The solution is to either make it a 6-7 shot kill, or reduce the firing speed from ~2 bullets per second to ~5 bullets per 2 seconds.

The only way to adapt is to just adopt the DMR itself, and not everybody wants to have to choose one gun to compete in certain matches. That’s the same BS I hated it Call of Duty, you inevitably are forced to sacrifice guns you enjoy to get kills by using the OP guns (in this case, the DMR).

Basically, yes, it needs a huge nerf.

Fine as is. The other precisions need a buff…

> The issue with the DMR is it’s just too much of a power weapon to be spawning with. It’s a 5 shot kill flat out, vs. the BR 5 shot kill which you have to hit all 15 bullets in it’s bursts. The DMR fires a little more rapidly and is more accurate than any other gun, it’s a bit OP. The solution is to either make it a 6-7 shot kill, or reduce the firing speed from ~2 bullets per second to ~5 bullets per 2 seconds.
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> The only way to adapt is to just adopt the DMR itself, and not everybody wants to have to choose one gun to compete in certain matches. That’s the same BS I hated it Call of Duty, you inevitably are forced to sacrifice guns you enjoy to get kills by using the OP guns (in this case, the DMR).
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> Basically, yes, it needs a huge nerf.

This.

> > The issue with the DMR is it’s just too much of a power weapon to be spawning with. It’s a 5 shot kill flat out, vs. the BR 5 shot kill which you have to hit all 15 bullets in it’s bursts. The DMR fires a little more rapidly and is more accurate than any other gun, it’s a bit OP. The solution is to either make it a 6-7 shot kill, or reduce the firing speed from ~2 bullets per second to ~5 bullets per 2 seconds.
> >
> > The only way to adapt is to just adopt the DMR itself, and not everybody wants to have to choose one gun to compete in certain matches. That’s the same BS I hated it Call of Duty, you inevitably are forced to sacrifice guns you enjoy to get kills by using the OP guns (in this case, the DMR).
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> > Basically, yes, it needs a huge nerf.
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> This.

too bad waypoint disagrees with your minority opinion

> > > > its fine people just need to adapt
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> > > Just like how people needed to adapt to armor lock? I’m sorry but I prefer a balanced sandbox. The only weapon that should be able to cross map that good and kill that quickly across map is the Sniper Rifle and other factions variants (Beam Rifle, Binary Rifle)
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> > dude the DMR is nothing like armor lock. It doesn’t make you cheat death and everyone has access to it from day 1.
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> > try again
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> You completely misunderstood. I wasn’t saying it was like armor lock, I was saying you shouldn’t just say “people need to adapt” when it comes to things like this. They could have made the DMR a 3 shot and there would be people still saying “you just need to adapt”. Its just not a good defense for an argument, blindly putting faith into something. So yes I’ll “try again”.

I don’t think it is so much people need to adapt, as it is that people need to learn to use the tools of the game.

Many arguments I see against the DMR is that the BR can’t compare to it at long range, therefore it is overpowered. These are probably mostly fans of the BR from Halo 2 as it was pretty much the all powerful weapon, and they have not adjusted to it being a mid-range gun now.

The other argument against it I see are people complaining of getting killed by it as they run across open fields, like on Ragnarok. This has to be one of the dumbest excuses against it. Running around in the open will get you killed anywhere. Just a bunch of people not using their heads.

it is fine people need to stop -Yoinking!- all the time