Voice Ban? Why? For What?

So I was just banned from using voice for one week.

I haven’t made an racist remarks. I haven’t made any gender-bashing remarks. At the time of the ban my headset wasn’t even plugged in.

What is wrong with you people? I’ve been a loyal customer of this franchise for over a decade, and now while playing i’m punished like some child, without reason or explanation?

Please outline why my account was voice banned and the time of offense clearly.

This is absolutely ridiculous.

Well, with the whole Sexist ban 343i was doing. People probably got mad at you for either kicking to much -Yoink-, or getting your -Yoink- handed to you. So they probably filed complaints on your account for Voice/Text. I may be wrong. Tho i think you should contact Micrsoft since Account bans, like voice is done from them not 343.

No I can still use voice chat in party outside of the game.

More importantly I can still use voice chat inside the game.

Its the fact that a message came up on my screen and stated my account would be banned from voice communication for a week. The message was in the exact same presentation style as all other commands or alerts from the game.

I paid for the game already. At no point was I informed that this studio would be taking an usual interest in voice communication. Despite my not having made any offense this evening, If I was to make sexist jokes, I pay for that right and live in a country that gives me that freedom. Where on the box before we purchased this game did it say that we would be limited to civil conversation?

Keep in mind the preceding statement applies to private parties with friends. I would never take anything offensive out in the general public and subject people to it.

The website the message directed me to doesn’t even have any information about voice bans. It doesn’t even mention them as offense. It just tells me to direct my questions to the forums, which I’m doing now.

Are any actual representatives of this company on these forums and/or have the intention of answering my inquiry?

I begin to long for days of yesteryear when the creators of his great cannon were not so petty minded.

Stop the soap boxing about living in a free country, when you accept things like Xbox live terms and conditions you are now restricted to THiER rules and what they see fit.

Let me get off my “soap box” that has apparently raised me to the dizzying heights of asking for reasoning and logic behind an action.

Where exactly in the Xbox Live Code of Conduct does it say that one will be banned for making any variety of sexist joke privately?

The stated what they see fit in black and white and no where do these new conditions seem to appear.

Now if you wouldn’t mind getting off your high horse, I’d like to continue to wait for an answer from someone actually representing the game and not someone who just wanted to take an internet swing at somebody.

Someone has to report you for this to happen, and usually it has to be multiple reports, so you either don’t just talk crudely in parties, people report you for other in fractions and don’t know what to mark down and just hit that, or your friends report you.

Good luck getting an answer man. You’re better off calling Microsoft though. Nobody from 343 will reply here. They rightfully abandoned this place because the kids got really out of hand :\

I’ve very much seen that Cha Boy. Once all the tiny issues in the games mechanics became relevant and the pointless XP cap became known, I assumed they had chosen to flee instead of remain.

As I said I can still talk in the game. After narrowing it down with the friends I was playing with, an hour before the supposed ban, my headset was having some issue. They said at times a loud screech would come from it for a few seconds. I threw it away and started using a newer one I have.

If those screeches, which were totally unintended and the result of an unknown hardware failure, caused enough people to mute me to get me voice banned, then the system is outright broken.

People could simply choose to mute you just because they don’t like you. Because you got the vehicle they wanted. Because you took that kill and they only got an assist.

I do so love this title. It gave me high hopes for the future. It’s sad to see that the a few of the bureaucrats have made their agenda more important than the game and its story.

Bungie why did you ever leave us to this fate…

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Your information is wrong. You seem to be referring to a certain article that very badly misreported comments made by 343i staffers.

Higher-ups at 343i have commented on the need to keep sexism out of Halo 4*'s story*, and they have briefly commented on the nature of sexism in online multiplayer. However, they have not, at any point, discussed a special 343i-enforced ban for sexist or other discriminatory conduct. It is Xbox LIVE Staff that handles such conduct to the fullest extent possible, and they’ve been doing so for a long time already.

> Despite my not having made any offense this evening, If I was to make sexist jokes, I pay for that right and live in a country that gives me that freedom.

And that freedom was revoked the instant you started communicating over Xbox LIVE. The Code of Conduct, among other legal agreements, forbids discriminatory communication, and if you are caught engaging in such communication, you can be dealt with.

However, if you were punished for that, it would be on all of Xbox LIVE – not just Halo 4.

EDIT: I realize that that’s not entirely helpful. Here’s something that might be.

I have not seen any official word on mute bans, but I know that in Halo: Reach, if you were muted in-game by too many players, then you would receive one. These tended to last for a good while (but were usually temporary), and manifested as you being automatically muted by default for anyone you encounter, without you ever being notified of the fact.

Again, mute bans of that style haven’t been officially confirmed in Halo 4, but they could exist. I really hope they don’t; Reach’s mute ban system was broken and exploitable.

You don’t need to fly off a handle here. A few people probably reported you for unjust reasons because they can’t handle losing. This happened all the time in Reach. Remember all those auto-muted people you would see in the lobbies? They are all voice banned due to reports from other players.

> Your information is wrong. You seem to be referring to a certain article that very badly misreported comments made by 343i staffers.

Would not 343i want to issue some kind of statement or response to this blatant misrepresentation of their statements?

> > Despite my not having made any offense this evening, If I was to make sexist jokes, I pay for that right and live in a country that gives me that freedom.
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> And that freedom was revoked the instant you started communicating over Xbox LIVE. The Code of Conduct, among other legal agreements, forbids discriminatory communication, and if you are caught engaging in such communication, you can be dealt with.

I retract my statement about any freedoms I may have and gladly accept the Code of Conduct outlined by Microsoft. I welcome equal punishment for all offenders. In a system in which even one profanity can be considered a beach of those conduct terms and result in a permanent ban, the population of Xbox Live will soon be reduced to at the very least one half its current size.

And just in case you think that the statement “one profane remark can get you banned from xbox live” is a misnomer, I confirmed this earlier today when I contacted Xbox Live customer support.

Some guy gets you with a lucky grenade toss from across the map, get no scoped from a guy riding on the back of a mongoose, or two players disconnect in the middle of a match leaving you hopelessly outgunned? Don’t curse, you’ll open yourself up for a ban.

> EDIT: I realize that that’s not entirely helpful. Here’s something that might be.
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> I have not seen any official word on mute bans, but I know that in Halo: Reach, if you were muted in-game by too many players, then you would receive one. These tended to last for a good while (but were usually temporary), and manifested as you being automatically muted by default for anyone you encounter, without you ever being notified of the fact.
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> Again, mute bans of that style haven’t been officially confirmed in Halo 4, but they could exist. I really hope they don’t; Reach’s mute ban system was broken and exploitable.

And finally, an edit for an actual answer to my actual question. I’m glad you finished attempting to prove your moral grounds just long enough to come back and toss me an answer.

Just to surmise your answer, it seems to read as follows:

“I have no idea what actually happened and have no way of giving you a solid answer. I know that the last title had a broken/exploitable system in it, and i’m not sure if it has been included in this title.”

Boy was that helpful. I learned that you don’t know anything and that a known to be broken/exploitable system might be included in the game I just bought.

If you’re a representative of 343i, you’re doing a terrible job. Generally, you don’t want to suggest that a failed system could be included in the newest product of a company.

As I’m almost certain now after further research that the mute-ban system from reach is in place in this game, I’m glad to know that someone at least pseudo-working for 343i is willing to state it is broken.

Please don’t bother with any reply, I won’t be returning to these forums. Thank you for providing me all the information I needed to proceed. Have an excellent day.