video help

I have recently recorded and uploaded a video to my Halo Reach file share and would like to upload it to youtube. Sadly,I had to record through the theater as I do not have a capture card. How do I download my video onto my PC to upload it to youtube?

You can no longer do it as of March 31st when Bungie handed over FULL controll over Halo, Bungie used to offer a render video service if you had Bungie Pro but 343i had no plans to continue such feature.

Wow thats a load of crap right there. See, this is another thing 343 is doing to -Yoink- over the halo series.

> Wow thats a load of crap right there. See, this is another thing 343 is doing to -Yoink!- over the halo series.

There is no promise but it is likely a feature like this will return for Halo 4.

Video Rendering was a Bungie.net exclusive feature, it was Bungie’s custom code, they didn’t have to hand that over during the transition.

> > Wow thats a load of crap right there. See, this is another thing 343 is doing to -Yoink!- over the halo series.
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> There is no promise but it is likely a feature like this will return for Halo 4.
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> Video Rendering was a Bungie.net exclusive feature, it was Bungie’s custom code, they didn’t have to hand that over during the transition.

I don’t blame them for that, but it’s going to be tough for us who depended on that system. >_<

> Wow thats a load of crap right there. See, this is another thing 343 is doing to -Yoink!- over the halo series.

343i had no control over video rendering coding which Bungie made, and didn’t have to hand over, so if any one is -Yoinking!- over the Halo series, that would be Bungie, because they’re not letting 343i have the coding to have video rendering for Reach and Halo 3. So your thoughts on the matter is a load of crap, 343i is doing every thing they can to keep the Halo series, and every one in the Halo community is crapping on them for trying. 343i did this, 343i did that, Until Halo 4 fails big time, which wont happen until after every one has a chance to see if it’s good or bad, 343i is not -Yoinking!- over the Halo series.

> > Wow thats a load of crap right there. See, this is another thing 343 is doing to -Yoink!- over the halo series.
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> 343i had no control over video rendering coding which Bungie made, and didn’t have to hand over, so if any one is -Yoinking!- over the Halo series, that would be Bungie, because they’re not letting 343i have the coding to have video rendering for Reach and Halo 3. So your thoughts on the matter is a load of crap, 343i is doing every thing they can to keep the Halo series, and every one in the Halo community is crapping on them for trying. 343i did this, 343i did that, Until Halo 4 fails big time, which wont happen until after every one has a chance to see if it’s good or bad, 343i is not -Yoinking!- over the Halo series.

Please note they do not need bungies unique coding for the converting or anything. A simple code could be made to allow conversions/downloads.

> > > Wow thats a load of crap right there. See, this is another thing 343 is doing to -Yoink!- over the halo series.
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> > 343i had no control over video rendering coding which Bungie made, and didn’t have to hand over, so if any one is -Yoinking!- over the Halo series, that would be Bungie, because they’re not letting 343i have the coding to have video rendering for Reach and Halo 3. So your thoughts on the matter is a load of crap, 343i is doing every thing they can to keep the Halo series, and every one in the Halo community is crapping on them for trying. 343i did this, 343i did that, Until Halo 4 fails big time, which wont happen until after every one has a chance to see if it’s good or bad, 343i is not -Yoinking!- over the Halo series.
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> Please note they do not need bungies unique coding for the converting or anything. A simple code could be made to allow conversions/downloads.

When you view a film in Halo 3, ODST & Reach, you are not simply watching a video recorded in a video format, it is replaying it as if it was a new game.

You don’t seem to understand the complexity of the video rendering service.

Im not saying for in the game. Im talking to allow the download from your recorded video from this site so you may save it on your PC. That would be a simplistic download/conversion coding to allow it. say the videos are in a odd/not commonly used format,they would simply need to create a converter using simplistic code so you may convert it to a more used format (.wmv for example) which then when conversion is complete you have a certain length of time to download the video before they remove it.

> Im not saying for in the game. Im talking to allow the download from your recorded video from this site so you may save it on your PC. That would be a <mark>simplistic download/conversion coding</mark> to allow it. say the videos are in a odd/not commonly used format,they would simply need to create a converter using simplistic code so you may convert it to a more used format (.wmv for example) which then when conversion is complete you have a certain length of time to download the video before they remove it.

BAHAHAHAHA!!! Let me guess, you’re a Computer Scientist that knows all about coding?

> Im not saying for in the game. Im talking to allow the download from your recorded video from this site so you may save it on your PC. That would be a simplistic download/conversion coding to allow it. say the videos are in a odd/not commonly used format,they would simply need to create a converter using simplistic code so you may convert it to a more used format (.wmv for example) which then when conversion is complete you have a certain length of time to download the video before they remove it.

As in when you record a film from theatre into a film clip?

Once again, Reach, ODST or 3 doesn’t convert it into such a thing from in-game.

If they were to allow downloads, they would have to set up a similar video render service which they are not willing to do at this time.

> Im not saying for in the game. Im talking to allow the download from your recorded video from this site so you may save it on your PC. That would be a simplistic download/conversion coding to allow it. say the videos are in a odd/not commonly used format,they would simply need to create a converter using simplistic code so you may convert it to a more used format (.wmv for example) which then when conversion is complete you have a certain length of time to download the video before they remove it.

Downloading a video off of a web site is EASY, any one who knows how to code half the stuff on this site can set it up, but that’s not the part that’s stopping 343i from letting people download the videos. What’s stopping them is getting the saved film dated converted from the game data to the video data, which is what Moa stated. That’s the hard part.

When you render a saved film, the render software pulls the data from the saved film, and renders it as a video. Saved films are not automatically saved as video files.

> Im not saying for in the game. Im talking to allow the download from your recorded video from this site so you may save it on your PC. That would be a simplistic download/conversion coding to allow it. say the videos are in a odd/not commonly used format,they would simply need to create a converter using simplistic code so you may convert it to a more used format (.wmv for example) which then when conversion is complete you have a certain length of time to download the video before they remove it.

The “videos” actually aren’t videos at all.

A Theater Film is not a video – it’s not a series of images shown in sequence. It is actually a list of every single thing that happened on every single frame of gameplay – a huge list of coordinates, velocities, model names, bullet trajectories… Basically, when you watch a match in Theater, Halo isn’t playing a video on-screen. It’s literally making that match happen again.

So it’s not a simple conversion. Even if you could download the Film directly to your PC, you wouldn’t be able to do anything with it; you’d need your own copy of the entire Halo game (3 or Reach) running on your PC, along with a program to capture the output and render it to video – and that’s just for casually watching one Film. If you’re trying to process and convert a ton of Films as part of an online service, then having a copy of the game play them out in real-time while capturing the output indirectly is not efficient.

You’d need to custom-build something, which would probably require a lot of time and some strong familiarity with the game engine. It’s what Bungie did, as demonstrated by some bizarre bugs that occurred very early in the rendering service’s development – bugs you wouldn’t see in a standard copy of the game.

Unfortunately, 343i doesn’t have the time or spare manpower to reverse-engineer half of Reach so that they can build a render system from scratch. It’s not that they’re ignoring or screwing us; it’s just too daunting of a task to take on, when they’re already busy with so many other things.

> Im not saying for in the game. Im talking to allow the download from your recorded video from this site so you may save it on your PC. That would be a simplistic download/conversion coding to allow it. say the videos are in a odd/not commonly used format,they would simply need to create a converter using simplistic code so you may convert it to a more used format (.wmv for example) which then when conversion is complete you have a certain length of time to download the video before they remove it.

The problem isn’t that replay files are an obscure video format, it’s that they’re not a video format at all. You can’t just “convert” them.

Replay files are actually more or less a combination of an initial game state plus a bunch of data describing things like controller inputs; it literally reruns that portion of the game within Reach. To “convert” a replay file to a video file, you effectively have to run the replay in Reach while recording it with a capture card, which is (more or less, vaguelly; their process was more direct from what I understand, but still effectively involved running the game while capping it) what Bungie’s service did. But to impliment that full-time via an automated service requires a fairly neato architecture, not just in terms of website structure but also in terms of hardware.

You can’t just provide some “simplistic code” to convert files. That “simplistic code,” in practical terms, is more or less “an HD VR system recording an operating copy of the game.”

> Wow thats a load of crap right there. See, this is another thing 343 is doing to -Yoink!- over the halo series.

Whoa. Way to look like a tool already.

And it isn’t as simple as adding a few bits of code, if you want to record videos THAT badly just get a capture card. They really don’t cost that much…especially since everybody and their grandmother makes machinima/crappy commentaries now.

And 343 have already given people plenty of warning for this, if you didn’t see it and you’re angry about it now it’s nobody’s fault but your own. Sorry, but it’s the truth.

As for what Moa said, yes, in future we may see something but I personally doubt it. I don’t really care because I have a Capture Card and I hardly put clips on my fileshare anyway and the majority of people that did knew about this already.

Going back to your post above, if you aren’t satisfied with Halo anymore, play something else because most of us are tired of people complaining about rubbish that was warned up to a year ago.