I had recently aquired the legendary Oni mantis. I was very exited to try it out but nervous because there very rare and hard to get in req packs. A couple games later I was doing well and had a good team. We were pushing the east armory and slowly taking it so I decided to take a risk and use the Oni mantis. I took one step outside the garage and promptly got plasma pistoled, boarded and destroyed.
I understand that vehicles need to be balanced an d have a way that Spartans can destroy them, however in there current state they just seem underpowered. It’s ridiculous that my level 7 req mantis can easily be counted by a level 2 req plasma pistol. I think that the higher level of reqs should be unbordable. If I use my level 7 legendary req that I only have 2 of and probably won’t get anymore soon I shouldn’t be able to be destroyed immediatly without getting any kills.
This is pretty simple to fix. Spawn inside your home base. Then go to a req station and spawn it then. It will force the vehicle spawn to come from the safety of your base. You should do better then.
Also I feel like Matis’ are still really weak and WAY to easy to board. I feel like they shouldn’t be boardable.
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> Also I feel like Matis’ are still really weak and WAY to easy to board. I feel like they shouldn’t be boardable.
Totally agree
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> I had recently aquired the legendary Oni mantis. I was very exited to try it out but nervous because there very rare and hard to get in req packs. A couple games later I was doing well and had a good team. We were pushing the east armory and slowly taking it so I decided to take a risk and use the Oni mantis. I took one step outside the garage and promptly got plasma pistoled, boarded and destroyed.
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> I understand that vehicles need to be balanced an d have a way that Spartans can destroy them, however in there current state they just seem underpowered. It’s ridiculous that my level 7 req mantis can easily be counted by a level 2 req plasma pistol. I think that the higher level of reqs should be unbordable. If I use my level 7 legendary req that I only have 2 of and probably won’t get anymore soon I shouldn’t be able to be destroyed immediatly without getting any kills.
The boarding isn’t the problem (well from the front yes but thats another issue), the issue is a level 3 req being so OP that you can spawn one and instantly take down even level 8 vehicles (not to mention acquire cheap kills on certain legendary vehicle bosses (cough rok cough)). The PP is ridiculous and I hate it more than anything in the game.
Edit: If someone is good enough (or I guess you were bad enough) to get close enough to board you (regardless of vehicle), then they deserve to destroy you. I think you should be able to get out of the vehicle and that one grenade shouldn’t blow you up, but boarding in general is ok.
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> > I had recently aquired the legendary Oni mantis. I was very exited to try it out but nervous because there very rare and hard to get in req packs. A couple games later I was doing well and had a good team. We were pushing the east armory and slowly taking it so I decided to take a risk and use the Oni mantis. I took one step outside the garage and promptly got plasma pistoled, boarded and destroyed.
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> > I understand that vehicles need to be balanced an d have a way that Spartans can destroy them, however in there current state they just seem underpowered. It’s ridiculous that my level 7 req mantis can easily be counted by a level 2 req plasma pistol. I think that the higher level of reqs should be unbordable. If I use my level 7 legendary req that I only have 2 of and probably won’t get anymore soon I shouldn’t be able to be destroyed immediatly without getting any kills.
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> The boarding isn’t the problem (well from the front yes but thats another issue), the issue is a level 3 req being so OP that you can spawn one and instantly take down even level 8 vehicles (not to mention acquire cheap kills on certain legendary vehicle bosses (cough rok cough)). The PP is ridiculous and I hate it more than anything in the game.
It’s always been like that(except for CE) but I agree it sucks to get PP’d and then boarded.
p.s. OP if you have the wheelman armor mod I’d recommend using it with vehicles.
Me : sees phaeton helios. Spawns pp, steals phaeton.
The Oni mantis should have some kind of anti-emp system in them. You can also use the Wheelman armor mod.
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> > I had recently aquired the legendary Oni mantis. I was very exited to try it out but nervous because there very rare and hard to get in req packs. A couple games later I was doing well and had a good team. We were pushing the east armory and slowly taking it so I decided to take a risk and use the Oni mantis. I took one step outside the garage and promptly got plasma pistoled, boarded and destroyed.
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> > I understand that vehicles need to be balanced an d have a way that Spartans can destroy them, however in there current state they just seem underpowered. It’s ridiculous that my level 7 req mantis can easily be counted by a level 2 req plasma pistol. I think that the higher level of reqs should be unbordable. If I use my level 7 legendary req that I only have 2 of and probably won’t get anymore soon I shouldn’t be able to be destroyed immediatly without getting any kills.
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> The boarding isn’t the problem (well from the front yes but thats another issue), the issue is a level 3 req being so OP that you can spawn one and instantly take down even level 8 vehicles (not to mention acquire cheap kills on certain legendary vehicle bosses (cough rok cough)). The PP is ridiculous and I hate it more than anything in the game.
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> Edit: If someone is good enough (or I guess you were bad enough) to get close enough to board you (regardless of vehicle), then they deserve to destroy you. I think you should be able to get out of the vehicle and that one grenade shouldn’t blow you up, but boarding in general is ok.
How is someone considered good enough just because they’re able to board your vehicle after PPing you? The range on the pp is ridiculous when its smart scoped.
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> > I had recently aquired the legendary Oni mantis. I was very exited to try it out but nervous because there very rare and hard to get in req packs. A couple games later I was doing well and had a good team. We were pushing the east armory and slowly taking it so I decided to take a risk and use the Oni mantis. I took one step outside the garage and promptly got plasma pistoled, boarded and destroyed.
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> > I understand that vehicles need to be balanced an d have a way that Spartans can destroy them, however in there current state they just seem underpowered. It’s ridiculous that my level 7 req mantis can easily be counted by a level 2 req plasma pistol. I think that the higher level of reqs should be unbordable. If I use my level 7 legendary req that I only have 2 of and probably won’t get anymore soon I shouldn’t be able to be destroyed immediatly without getting any kills.
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> The boarding isn’t the problem (well from the front yes but thats another issue), the issue is a level 3 req being so OP that you can spawn one and instantly take down even level 8 vehicles (not to mention acquire cheap kills on certain legendary vehicle bosses (cough rok cough)). The PP is ridiculous and I hate it more than anything in the game.
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> Edit: If someone is good enough (or I guess you were bad enough) to get close enough to board you (regardless of vehicle), then they deserve to destroy you. I think you should be able to get out of the vehicle and that one grenade shouldn’t blow you up, but boarding in general is ok.
Good point. That makes sense to me, Maybe emp immune vehicles?
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> I had recently aquired the legendary Oni mantis. I was very exited to try it out but nervous because there very rare and hard to get in req packs. A couple games later I was doing well and had a good team. We were pushing the east armory and slowly taking it so I decided to take a risk and use the Oni mantis. I took one step outside the garage and promptly got plasma pistoled, boarded and destroyed.
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> I understand that vehicles need to be balanced an d have a way that Spartans can destroy them, however in there current state they just seem underpowered. It’s ridiculous that my level 7 req mantis can easily be counted by a level 2 req plasma pistol. I think that the higher level of reqs should be unbordable. If I use my level 7 legendary req that I only have 2 of and probably won’t get anymore soon I shouldn’t be able to be destroyed immediatly without getting any kills.
The oni mantis is beastly. The other mantises are a bit on the week side. You got outplayed. There isn’t anything else to it. The last oni mantis I called in I got taken out by a guy with active camo/advanced sensor after a running riot. Did I -Yoink-? No I got beat.
My problem is with how useless the Mantis stomp is, especially compared to H4 Mantis. Countless times I’ve been mid stomp and got boarded. I think each vehicle should have a way to counter being boarded, at the cost of being able to effectively use your vehicle. You should be “unboardable” while performing these actions, like the Mantis stomp. I have no problem with the Plasma Pistol though. Don’t over-extend and a PP should only be annoying.
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> > I had recently aquired the legendary Oni mantis. I was very exited to try it out but nervous because there very rare and hard to get in req packs. A couple games later I was doing well and had a good team. We were pushing the east armory and slowly taking it so I decided to take a risk and use the Oni mantis. I took one step outside the garage and promptly got plasma pistoled, boarded and destroyed.
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> > I understand that vehicles need to be balanced an d have a way that Spartans can destroy them, however in there current state they just seem underpowered. It’s ridiculous that my level 7 req mantis can easily be counted by a level 2 req plasma pistol. I think that the higher level of reqs should be unbordable. If I use my level 7 legendary req that I only have 2 of and probably won’t get anymore soon I shouldn’t be able to be destroyed immediatly without getting any kills.
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> The oni mantis is beastly. The other mantises are a bit on the week side. You got outplayed. There isn’t anything else to it. The last oni mantis I called in I got taken out by a guy with active camo/advanced sensor after a running riot. Did I -Yoink-? No I got beat.
But how did I get outplayed if I got EMPd? Theres no counter against it. Your literaly frozen in place.
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> > > I had recently aquired the legendary Oni mantis. I was very exited to try it out but nervous because there very rare and hard to get in req packs. A couple games later I was doing well and had a good team. We were pushing the east armory and slowly taking it so I decided to take a risk and use the Oni mantis. I took one step outside the garage and promptly got plasma pistoled, boarded and destroyed.
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> > > I understand that vehicles need to be balanced an d have a way that Spartans can destroy them, however in there current state they just seem underpowered. It’s ridiculous that my level 7 req mantis can easily be counted by a level 2 req plasma pistol. I think that the higher level of reqs should be unbordable. If I use my level 7 legendary req that I only have 2 of and probably won’t get anymore soon I shouldn’t be able to be destroyed immediatly without getting any kills.
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> > The oni mantis is beastly. The other mantises are a bit on the week side. You got outplayed. There isn’t anything else to it. The last oni mantis I called in I got taken out by a guy with active camo/advanced sensor after a running riot. Did I -Yoink-? No I got beat.
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> But how did I get outplayed if I got EMPd? Theres no counter against it. Your literaly frozen in place.
You let them emp you. Just like I got outplayed by camo/advanced sensor guy in my example. If they were camping the vehicle spawn, then you could’ve spawned it at your base or ‘cleared the lane’ before spawning it. Otherwise it is about situational awareness.
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> > > I had recently aquired the legendary Oni mantis. I was very exited to try it out but nervous because there very rare and hard to get in req packs. A couple games later I was doing well and had a good team. We were pushing the east armory and slowly taking it so I decided to take a risk and use the Oni mantis. I took one step outside the garage and promptly got plasma pistoled, boarded and destroyed.
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> > > I understand that vehicles need to be balanced an d have a way that Spartans can destroy them, however in there current state they just seem underpowered. It’s ridiculous that my level 7 req mantis can easily be counted by a level 2 req plasma pistol. I think that the higher level of reqs should be unbordable. If I use my level 7 legendary req that I only have 2 of and probably won’t get anymore soon I shouldn’t be able to be destroyed immediatly without getting any kills.
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> > The oni mantis is beastly. The other mantises are a bit on the week side. You got outplayed. There isn’t anything else to it. The last oni mantis I called in I got taken out by a guy with active camo/advanced sensor after a running riot. Did I -Yoink-? No I got beat.
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> But how did I get outplayed if I got EMPd? Theres no counter against it. Your literaly frozen in place.
pheonix7563 I wouldn’t say you were outright outplayed, more like you didn’t use sound strategy. The player that took you out knew his armory was being taken and decide to wait where the vehicles where coming out. Many people will start to spawn vehicles when an base is being taken, to make sure they take or keep it. This player that took you out was smart, he was making it so your team couldn’t swarm his base with vehicles making it near impossible to keep. As for a counter, it is call team work. If you had teammates with you, there is a good possibility that you would have survived that EMP. Here is what I do for all legendaries, weapons, vehicles. First, I would make sure I spawn inside my home base, second make sure to have some kind of back up. I do not leave the base until my back up is there. Teammates on foot or in another vehicle. I prefer a teammate on foot, with a BR or DMR. Or Plasma pistol with either BR, Pistol , DMR or something along those kind of weapons. I don’t think the vehicles are underpower. If anything they may be overpowered. But in reality it depends on the your team playing and your teammates. You may be a skilled player, but as many people have seen someone with a plasma pistol at the wrong time(right time for the guy with the plasma pistol), can take out your awesome vehicle. However if that player had other teammates around them they could have killed the guy before he destroyed the vehicle. That is why team work is vital in Warzone. Majority of the time a team that is communicating is the one that wins. I never use legendary, or ultra rare stuff unless I am in a team that is communicating and I have gotten one or two people to acknowledge my request. Warzone is full of examples of people losing legendary items because they got taken out because the other team was either lucky, smart or prepared. In your case the other team was all three. Lucky they got there before you spawn so they wouldn’t show up on your radar as they moved in close enough to EMP you. Smart because they were waiting outside the vehicle spawn area. They were prepared because they had the plasma pistol.