Given how much better the game plays under 85% bloom and all the other changes there is no reason to keep vanilla Reach around.
Provided that there will hopefully be more tweaks in the future, like a nerf to the banshee of some kind or fixing evade to work relative to the spartan player model and maybe change the fuel consumption of the jetpack, then every faulty aspect of the game would be addressed.
Also keep in mind that there are already many playlists out there so keeping vanilla reach on life support will be at the cost of having unnecessary playlists.
Thoughts?
Keep in mind its natural to have some growing pains for those of you who do not like the changes however that does not mean these changes are not improvements overall.
I don’t hate the new or old Reach and I definately wouldn’t go so far to call either one bad. But what I can say is that many people like Reach the way it is and seeing how the spent their money for something they like as is, it isn’t fair to them. I like the new changes, though I do believe they are fine where they are. Except for 85% bloom, that wouldn’t be a problem.
> I don’t hate the new or old Reach and I definately wouldn’t go so far to call either one bad. But what I can say is that many people like Reach the way it is and seeing how the spent their money for something they like as is, it isn’t fair to them. I like the new changes, though I do believe they are fine where they are. Except for 85% bloom, that wouldn’t be a problem.
85% bloom plays great. Bleed-through is alright, something should be done about headshot bleed-through though. It’s tough to tell when you’re a headshot away from death with the TU.
> This is talking about 85% bloom settings.
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> ZB is reserved for anniversary and anyone else who will use it(MLG, Swat, etc).
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> The pistol and NR only have issues on ZB settings.
Oh, I’m sorry. XD
I got carried away by the title of the thread. I was just about to quote one of my responses for why 343 isn’t gonna remove Vanilla Reach.
But okay. XD
Seriously, I’m sorry for misunderstanding.
> I know it won’t be supported, but honestly it should. 85% should replace default Reach at the very least, it just feels SO MUCH BETTER.
BECAUSE IT IS!!!
Seriously though, bleed through and reduced bloom makes headshots more consistent and the sandbox is now perfectly balanced(yes, no bloom NR makes it a viable weapon now to pick up=it can consistently trump a DMR but not guaranteed).
AL is bearable and Camo forces the player to use it sparingly.
I see no redeeming qualities/features of the old settings.
no. The only reason why I’m not complaining too much about this TU is because I’m not forced to play in the new gametypes. If you force me to play these new, unbalanced, DMR fests then I’ll probably stop playing Reach.
> 85% bloom is only 15% better than 100% bloom. 0% bloom is 100% better.
No. 85% bloom is ok. 0% bloom is -Yoink- because the DMR is overpowered. It makes the game no fun. When I die i get frustrated because it was juts someone spamming the trigger from across the map. When I get a kill it doesn’t feel rewarding because its too easy.
> > 85% bloom is only 15% better than 100% bloom. 0% bloom is 100% better.
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> No. 85% bloom is ok. 0% bloom is Yoink! because the DMR is overpowered. It makes the game no fun. When I die i get frustrated because it was juts someone spamming the trigger from across the map. When I get a kill it doesn’t feel rewarding because its too easy.
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> 0% bloom sucks.
0 bloom is ok but needs work. RoF cap is necessary on both the pistol and the DMR.
NOTE: This is just a test version of Anniversary which will have the 3 shot pistol. They are testing a concept which clearly needs more work.
People paid for Vanilla Reach not ZB or any other nerfs. Thats why you will not get the TU anywhere else. 85% bloom is the only thing that will most likely make it to the rest of Reach. We got a playlist, you should be happy with that.
> > > 85% bloom is only 15% better than 100% bloom. 0% bloom is 100% better.
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> > No. 85% bloom is ok. 0% bloom is Yoink! because the DMR is overpowered. It makes the game no fun. When I die i get frustrated because it was juts someone spamming the trigger from across the map. When I get a kill it doesn’t feel rewarding because its too easy.
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> > 0% bloom sucks.
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> 0 bloom is ok but needs work. RoF cap is necessary on both the pistol and the DMR.
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> NOTE: This is just a test version of Anniversary which will have the 3 shot pistol. They are testing a concept which clearly needs more work.
Rate of fire is fine. The game is actually fast-paced for once.
I will probably not play Vanilla Reach myself just because of the tweak to AL. I also think if the majority of people choose the newer settings 343 will use them more and more. I don’t see them completely getting rid of it though.
> People paid for Vanilla Reach not ZB or any other nerfs. Thats why you will not get the TU anywhere else. 85% bloom is the only thing that will most likely make it to the rest of Reach. We got a playlist, you should be happy with that.
People paid for a game that was fundamentally flawed for over a year… they complain once its fixed?