Vanilla Flag isn't actually that bad...

Games Other Halo
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Honestly, I could even go as far as calling it “very fun”. There are no personal ordinance drops, no instant respawn, vehicles exist but aren’t overbearing, the map selection actually works pretty well for the gametype… it feels very Halo to me. Regardless of what people think about the flagnum, I actually find it makes flag running on foot more interesting, since you can clutch out kills while moving it. Just all around a good time.

Not really sure what the point of this post, but just felt like posting to say that while I think most of the other playlists missed the mark, this one captures the feel of Halo to me.

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I agree, it’s what I’ve been playing lately just because it does feel “halo”. Gonna hop on in a bit too no thread hijack haha would be nice to put a team together!

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Vanilla flag?

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> Vanilla flag?

343’s out of the box take on Capture the Flag, rather than say, MLG, or a TU version.

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jip is its biggest problem

I have had 25 jip games in a row, I didnt technically have them because I went offline when it came up, but the possibility was there.

If you could drop the flag I might actually help my team,but you cant so I dont, and I play for kills.

top 50 most ctf snipes and ghost kills on halo tracker and top 100 ghost kills in the world :stuck_out_tongue:

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> > Vanilla flag?
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> 343’s out of the box take on Capture the Flag, rather than say, MLG, or a TU version.

Oh… 343s version is trash. Not in anyway what I would call vanilla flag. To me, that would be the flag of all other Halo titles.

Waypoints over the carrier?

Pistol equipped?

Unable to drop flag?

I swear its like 343 never actually played any previous Halo games.

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> jip is its biggest problem
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> I have had 25 jip games in a row, I didnt technically have them because I went offline when it came up, but the possibility was there.
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> If you could drop the flag I might actually help my team,but you cant so I dont, and I play for kills.
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> top 50 most ctf snipes and ghost kills on halo tracker and top 100 ghost kills in the world :stuck_out_tongue:

So you sit their and farm/pick off people who are focusing on objectives? That’s like taking candy from a baby, oh and you gloat about it like its some sort of an achievement.

haha, funny how standards have changed huh?

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I freakin’ love CTF in this game! At first I hated it, but it was most likely because I wasn’t used to playing on large maps in years, and especially with a Mantis (played two games, both on Ragnarok) and just couldn’t do well at all. I gave it a second chance recently because I was kind of tired of Team Regicide, and ended up having a blast. It’s my new favourite gametype, and I like the way it plays in Halo 4. Sure, the DMR owns the field, but the addition of sprint, having the rifle of my choice (or rifles, as I have a new favourite class setup, DMR+BR), and just the new look and feel of the game make it so much more enjoyable.

I didn’t think much of the icon over the carrier because I never got to play it much in previous games, but I think the inclusion would be nice. At times it feels like an enemy capture comes out of nowhere.

I do have a complaint about not being able to drop the flag, though. I see that having the Magnum is supposed to help make up for it, but what I end up doing is just defending the enemy’s dropped flag until some teammates arrive because I don’t want to have to run with it solo and risk losing it in a few seconds. I end up providing more help by keeping the enemy at bay rather than trying to help bring the flag as close as possible to our base and keeping the flag’s timer going. I do prefer playing on defense and am pretty decent at suppressing the team, but I don’t play to farm for kills. I enjoy playing the objective and trying to help my team bring the flag back while protecting our own, but I rarely get flag captures due to this issue.

Also, is it just me, or does the flag carrier have stronger shields in addition to stronger bullets? It’s a little difficult to take them on 1v1 at times and it seems I have to shoot more than usual.

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I miss 1 flag CTF

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> I miss 1 flag CTF

Same. One Flag on Abandon would probably play pretty well honestly. One of my favorite causal gametypes in Halo 3 was One Flag on High Ground, that was definitely a blast in a LAN. One Flag didn’t really impress me in Halo Reach, but that was more due to the fact that the maps didn’t support the gametype well.

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> > jip is its biggest problem
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> > I have had 25 jip games in a row, I didnt technically have them because I went offline when it came up, but the possibility was there.
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> > If you could drop the flag I might actually help my team,but you cant so I dont, and I play for kills.
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> > top 50 most ctf snipes and ghost kills on halo tracker and top 100 ghost kills in the world :stuck_out_tongue:
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> So you sit their and farm/pick off people who are focusing on objectives? That’s like taking candy from a baby, oh and you gloat about it like its some sort of an achievement.
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> haha, funny how standards have changed huh?

I totally dont care anymore , I dont have a rank to aim for so I dont care if I win, I find farming kills in this game fun because half the time I get put into games that are 2 flags down so obviously the only sane thing to do is play for kills instead of breaking your disk.

If ranks are added and I am still around I might even stop doing it, but I have lived through reach and am on halo 4 now , and playing for yourself is what this game encourages , if I relied on teamwork and teammates I dont think I could play this game for long and have no idea why people think 343 intended it that way?

I have no reason to win,no reason to push for weapons that spawn randomly around the map,I have just as good a chance just staying where I am. The flag and oddball to me is just as interesting/important to me as a new weapon droppping.

Halo 4 has the lowest skill gap out of any halo , I could play infinity slayer but all the maps with starting snipers and maps I can stand just happen to be in the ctf playlist which also has no PODs so less random factors for newbs to kill me.

And if I do play infinity slayer I do the same thing, I dont teamshoot or care if my teammates need help, I might wander over afterwards to see if there were any good weapons but with PODs where you have icannons on haven and abandon ,which should be renamed boltshot tower. I just dont see the point in playing it.

I am not some scrub either,I was a 40 in h2 and 50 in a few h3 playlists and I have played all the halo games but this makes halo 4 nearly bareable, and lets be honest 343 catered to this playstyle ,just by trying to be like cod , so if the community gets mad and standards are lowered then it is the devs that shaped the community to cater for this selfish way to play.

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Ok, so CTF is one of the few things I like about this game. I’m more of a defender, so auto pick-up doesn’t really bother me

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> jip is its biggest problem
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> I have had 25 jip games in a row, I didnt technically have them because I went offline when it came up, but the possibility was there.
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> If you could drop the flag I might actually help my team,but you cant so I dont, and I play for kills.
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> top 50 most ctf snipes and ghost kills on halo tracker and top 100 ghost kills in the world :stuck_out_tongue:

I agree/ disagree everyone saying it dosent need to be in are those who havent completely processed the benefits of it first of all if the only reason we need JIP is for the -Yoinks!- that quit out of a game now imagine your playing CTF in Halo 3 and someone leaves and your at a disadvantage now you have no JIP so your bascially screwed. Now imagine a fixed JIP in Halo 4 it would get rid of this problem almost completely. They also need to have a huge penalty for doing so like you cant gain exp for a bit or you lose a few ranks.

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Big team
Classic weapon spawns
No gun flag thing

Then I’d be on ctf all day. Hate how there is on ordinance, just makes the level a Barron wasteland.

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Gotta admit I love the flagnum, i really enjoy running the flag then turning round to out strafe a chaser or pummel him round a corner. Having a strafe joust with the oppo flag carrier is good fun too. Im really enjoying CTF :slight_smile: