Using LVL 9 REQs is like throwing it away

Level 9 Reqs for Warzone need to be easier to get too. I know in the beta when warzone was out people said it was too easy to get to level 9 reqs but now its way too much to get them. Even when most do get to level 9 they wont bother using level 9 rewards for good reason. just like me as well i wont use a level 9 req because it like throwing it way in the garbage. i mean i would rather sell it than use it. All because you only get about a minute tops to use it if even that. Most might get 30 seconds on average. That about 5 second of animation of loading in a level 9 req showing it bring brought to the battlefield, another 10 to 15 seconds of it walking to were the fight is to use it and about 15 to 10 second to use it before game is over. quiet simply, its a total waste to even use them. 6 and 7 and maybe 8s but anything over that is just dumb to use. You really are just throwing away the use of it. It needs to take less to get to level 9 and be able to use it for maybe 2-3 minute minimum average for it to be even worth using. not to mention if you do use it and so Yoink camping at the spawn area is waiting to jump you and you get your level 9 req destroyed before you can even use it. thats a big deal. I simply will not use it at all. even when half my warzone games im top player and i get to level 9, i will not even bother calling it in because there is about 30-40 seconds remaining. i watched one guy do it and nothing felt like “i feel you bro” than to hear them use so much cursing about how he just called it in and he didnt even get to the front lines to get a kill. Just no, simply no no no no. You need to lower how much it takes to get to level 9, no one is going to use their level 9 reqs if they are only going to get about 30 sec average with it before either game ends or they get spartan lasered right when they get outside. Just no.

I get it was a little too OP how quick everyone got to level 9 in the beta but now you nerfed it way too much. you need to go about 50-75% back to what the beta was like for warzone. im not calling a level 9 Req in just to throw it away and get “Game Over”. And i i love warzone over all the other games and played it long enough to see hardly anyone gets level 9 and if they do they wont even bother calling it in because there is just not enough time to use it. Level 9 req is just too damn high. Lower it down so we can get it sooner when its like 750 to 800 /1000 for one of the teams, thats when we should start seeing players pulling them out. sorry but if i see time iss almost up or its 950 points left, you can forget it. its just wasting a good level 9 req card for nothing. So far everyone who is actually playing it as much as me or more is sayign the same thing, its a total waste and hopes 343 will fix it and make it easier because they arent going to waste it. its not worth 2 or 3 kills. at best maybe make it longer. like warzone assault needs to be from 1 base to the armory to the middle to the other armory to the other base and regular warzone needs to be to 1500 or 2000. because the game is also short too so that might solve that problem too. Its over when its finally getting good. And it would be nice for a warzone mode where there is no core destruction option if one side dominates to keep the game going.

I’m SR rank 42 in Warzone, and I’ve never even SEEN a Req level 9 weapon or vehicle in the game yet.

Are oni-scorpions considered Req level 9?

How to get to level 9 faster is to do really good. You personally will level up faster if you are the one constantly killing bosses and capturing bases. Those who are just going around killing Spartans will not level up as fast

They made 9 REQ hard to get to on purpose. Gotta earn it by playing the objective. I’ve gotten to it quite a few times to have good time to use it before. Just takes a while to find the best way to get high quick.

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> How to get to level 9 faster is to do really good. You personally will level up faster if you are the one constantly killing bosses and capturing bases. Those who are just going around killing Spartans will not level up as fast

As you read, i was 50% of the time the #1 player, you couldnt go anymore try hard than me and still not enough time to call one in. i wont bother its totally wasting a good level 9 for nothing. i have like 4 or 5 legendary boss kills etc its just not happening. also nothing more lame than someone stealing all ur hard work while they sit a mile away and shoot once and kill it. but i was the troll that did that for one of them and got the kill but not every game but still. anyways i was even called a hackers for the insane stuff i did which i wish i recorded it. anyways nope even being a badass like me couldnt get enough time to even use a level 9. im not going to waste it. all those points i get also boost the teams score so by the time i do its basically over.

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> They made 9 REQ hard to get to on purpose. Gotta earn it by playing the objective. I’ve gotten to it quite a few times to have good time to use it before. Just takes a while to find the best way to get high quick.

i think you are referring to the wrong high my friend. you have to show me your matches all of them or i think you are full of it. After all the insane -Yoink- i did, unless i see a video of how you are doing that i dont believe sorry.

And again in the beta people were using it quiet often and it wasnt that bad. i know you havent so you think one person with a level 9 they really really have to earn it but in reality it wasnt that OP it was okay but a little strong. but one spartan laser could blowup a Phaeton easily. so way say “you need to be super BA” and still get owned by a simple spartan laser almost everyone gets in a pack. i have like 20 of them.

I’ve called in a Level 9 REQ a few times? I usually get it around the 800 point mark on my team after really sweating it out! Though to unlock REQ 9 you need to go absolutely insane half the time - it’s tough but not impossible!

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> I’ve called in a Level 9 REQ a few times? I usually get it around the 800 point mark on my team after really sweating it out! Though to unlock REQ 9 you need to go absolutely insane half the time - it’s tough but not impossible!

when i say impossible i know its more like once in a blue moon but you know what i am saying. it needs to be nerfed see i always get this on the forum. someone saying “well i did it” but i have had people try and prove it too me and never can. no footage or anything but yet people i actually play with in game i see no one calling them in. And im going to believe more what my eyes are seeing vs what someone is saying. I forgot what they call it, its a special word for peopel that always disagree with everything even when in reality the answer is obvious kind of like when its well known people say 1 +1 is 2 but you will get people on here on forums that say “well i think its actually 3” oh wait my bad its Devil;s advocate. disagreeing for spite. seriously one a handful of people here are saying they did verses hundred of people i versed actually getting to level 9 and wont call them in for the sake of wasting them.

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> > How to get to level 9 faster is to do really good. You personally will level up faster if you are the one constantly killing bosses and capturing bases. Those who are just going around killing Spartans will not level up as fast
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> As you read, i was 50% of the time the #1 player, you couldnt go anymore try hard than me and still not enough time to call one in. i wont bother its totally wasting a good level 9 for nothing. i have like 4 or 5 legendary boss kills etc its just not happening. also nothing more lame than someone stealing all ur hard work while they sit a mile away and shoot once and kill it. but i was the troll that did that for one of them and got the kill but not every game but still. anyways i was even called a hackers for the insane stuff i did which i wish i recorded it. anyways nope even being a badass like me couldnt get enough time to even use a level 9. im not going to waste it. all those points i get also boost the teams score so by the time i do its basically over.

Someone tried to kill me with the Blaze of Glory Shotgun in a Match. I killed him and felt sorry that I did since he used such a rare and powerful card for him to drop because of my BR.

So to Honor his memory, I picked it up, and ran to the Armory they still held. And killed everyone there with it and helped my team capture it.

When I died. My clansmen picked up to carry on its legacy. Even when it ran out of ammo, we still carried it to honor the man who decided to use such a rare card.

We would not allow it to disappear till the match was over. And The Filthy Casuals carried on this duty with pride when we destroyed the core

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> I’m SR rank 42 in Warzone, and I’ve never even SEEN a Req level 9 weapon or vehicle in the game yet.
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> Are oni-scorpions considered Req level 9?

damn 42 already, you sure grind for that. and no oni isnt. things like Phaetons and mantis are level 9s. i have seen a mantis or two in my days but thats like for 2 or 3 seconds before i use a spartan laser to destroy it so they never get to use it and waste it. that was how i got my first hate mail for halo 5. it really bring tears of joy to hear 5 messages from some one telling me they will murder my whole family. i can relate to this poor f***er. the painful laughter. its funny but at the same time i can feel his pain. all that hard work only to lose it in 3 seconds. Yes i agree with you level 9 reqs are a waste.

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> > They made 9 REQ hard to get to on purpose. Gotta earn it by playing the objective. I’ve gotten to it quite a few times to have good time to use it before. Just takes a while to find the best way to get high quick.
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> i think you are referring to the wrong high my friend. you have to show me your matches all of them or i think you are full of it. After all the insane -Yoink- i did, unless i see a video of how you are doing that i dont believe sorry.
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> And again in the beta people were using it quiet often and it wasnt that bad. i know you havent so you think one person with a level 9 they really really have to earn it but in reality it wasnt that OP it was okay but a little strong. but one spartan laser could blowup a Phaeton easily. so way say “you need to be super BA” and still get owned by a simple spartan laser almost everyone gets in a pack. i have like 20 of them.

It shouldn’t be hard to realize that with every oowerful card there would be a lower point card to counter or else every newbie player would get detroyed with no way to combat back. Capturing bases and killing AI get you up the fastest all the while you’ll likely come by plenty of spartans to kill along the way especially if you play the objective and rush or defend bases. They give higher req energy when you do thise things because that is what warzone is about. If you are fast enough and lucky enough from the beginning to kill most the AI and capture the first base you could almost be at a 4 req level at the start especially if you push the center area and pick up more AI kills/spartan kills and capture the second base for a 5/6. After that it’s purely AI bosses, defending what you got and killing enemy spartans while trying to grab that last base. It is completely doable and has been done before. If you need more proof than the quick tip guide I just gave you then ask around and I bet people will say the same.

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> > i think you are referring to the wrong high my friend. you have to show me your matches all of them or i think you are full of it. After all the insane -Yoink- i did, unless i see a video of how you are doing that i dont believe sorry.
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> > And again in the beta people were using it quiet often and it wasnt that bad. i know you havent so you think one person with a level 9 they really really have to earn it but in reality it wasnt that OP it was okay but a little strong. but one spartan laser could blowup a Phaeton easily. so way say “you need to be super BA” and still get owned by a simple spartan laser almost everyone gets in a pack. i have like 20 of them.
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> It shouldn’t be hard to realize that with every oowerful card there would be a lower point card to counter or else every newbie player would get detroyed with no way to combat back. Capturing bases and killing AI get you up the fastest all the while you’ll likely come by plenty of spartans to kill along the way especially if you play the objective and rush or defend bases. They give higher req energy when you do thise things because that is what warzone is about. If you are fast enough and lucky enough from the beginning to kill most the AI and capture the first base you could almost be at a 4 req level at the start especially if you push the center area and pick up more AI kills/spartan kills and capture the second base for a 5/6. After that it’s purely AI bosses, defending what you got and killing enemy spartans while trying to grab that last base. It is completely doable and has been done before. If you need more proof than the quick tip guide I just gave you then ask around and I bet people will say the same.

It shouldnt feel like a total waste of a req to pull it out and than game over. its like a joke in Battlefield Friends and it was so bad they fixed that because it was annoying to get something and than game over. so this applies. have you played Halo 5 beta warzone. if you did you would know its not as bad as you make it sound. you are like “we if we make it slightly easier, than everyone will have one and its will be Armageddon all over again” and in reality “just a regular match with a few more vehicles n weapons in action and nothing else.”

Also at base one, i never get over level 2 and im destroying everything at home base in the beginning and capture it so idk what magic you are doing there is no level 3 or 4 that ever happens and i went hard in the paint. you know how tryhard going hard in the paint is? if you do than you understand. im not asking for 5 kills and im instantly at level 9 req. Have you played halo 5 warzone beta? if you have than you will catch my drift. if not than you cant understand. its too mellow right now. there arent enough vehicles being used because it takes too long and when you finally do its not enough points destroying it. but if you were a boss you got up quicker by destroying smaller vehicles and than more mediums and than bigger vehicles come out to play. its a trickle down effect. the more points out there the more stuff gets used. its like economics 101. the action was way more tense than what it is now. bombs going of everywhere. mother nature was -Yoink!- her pants there was that much action. this is actually quiet boring. So its agreed by most online that it needs fixing. i know forum people are going to try n play devils advocate here but the most online say yes its boring at most you see the enemy using only like 1 or 2 ghosts. WE NEED MORE. MOAR GUNS MOAR VEHICLES MOAR AI MOAR BATTLES MOAR EVERYTHING.

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> > > > They made 9 REQ hard to get to on purpose. Gotta earn it by playing the objective. I’ve gotten to it quite a few times to have good time to use it before. Just takes a while to find the best way to get high quick.
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> > > i think you are referring to the wrong high my friend. you have to show me your matches all of them or i think you are full of it. After all the insane -Yoink- i did, unless i see a video of how you are doing that i dont believe sorry.
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> > > And again in the beta people were using it quiet often and it wasnt that bad. i know you havent so you think one person with a level 9 they really really have to earn it but in reality it wasnt that OP it was okay but a little strong. but one spartan laser could blowup a Phaeton easily. so way say “you need to be super BA” and still get owned by a simple spartan laser almost everyone gets in a pack. i have like 20 of them.
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> > It shouldn’t be hard to realize that with every oowerful card there would be a lower point card to counter or else every newbie player would get detroyed with no way to combat back. Capturing bases and killing AI get you up the fastest all the while you’ll likely come by plenty of spartans to kill along the way especially if you play the objective and rush or defend bases. They give higher req energy when you do thise things because that is what warzone is about. If you are fast enough and lucky enough from the beginning to kill most the AI and capture the first base you could almost be at a 4 req level at the start especially if you push the center area and pick up more AI kills/spartan kills and capture the second base for a 5/6. After that it’s purely AI bosses, defending what you got and killing enemy spartans while trying to grab that last base. It is completely doable and has been done before. If you need more proof than the quick tip guide I just gave you then ask around and I bet people will say the same.
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> It shouldnt feel like a total waste of a req to pull it out and than game over. its like a joke in Battlefield Friends and it was so bad they fixed that because it was annoying to get something and than game over. so this applies. have you played Halo 5 beta warzone. if you did you would know its not as bad as you make it sound. you are like “we if we make it slightly easier, than everyone will have one and its will be Armageddon all over again” and in reality “just a regular match with a few more vehicles n weapons in action and nothing else.”
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> Also at base one i never get over level 2 and i destroying everything at home base in the beginning and capture so idk what magic you are doing there is no level 3 or 4 that ever happens and i went hard in the paint. you know how try hard going hard in the paint is? if you do than you understand. im not asking for 5 kills and im instantly at level 9 req. Halo you played halo 5 warzone beta? if you have than you will catch my drift. if not than you cant understand. its too mellow. there arent enough vehicles being used because it takes too long and when you finally do its not enough. but if you were a boss you got up quicker by destroying smaller vehicles and than more medium and than bigger vehicles come out to play. the action was way more tense than what it is now. bombs going of everyone. mother nature was -Yoink!- her pants there was that much action. this is actually quiet boring. So its agreed by most online that it needs fixing.

I’m not claiming that it doesn’t need fixing. If anything it does when I can’t pull out a 8 req BR more than a once every few matches. However I am arguing that is it completely doable and using your skill base as a bias to base mine on isn’t a rational argument as people will always either be better than you or know more exploits to get that req level higher. I’ve played plenty of matches where I got my 3 level br at the first base and my 5 level br at the second and have played with others that have done the same. Just because you haven’t doesn’t make it impossible so don’t alienate it just because you haven’t done it yet.

a few games back, went on a 25 streak, from about the 4 minute mark. i had lv9 available from ~750pts

but after you hit six thats it. all you need. rockets, scorpions and sniper rifles at that point.

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> a few games back, went on a 25 streak, from about the 4 minute mark. i had lv9 available from ~750pts
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> but after you hit six thats it. all you need. rockets, scorpions and sniper rifles at that point.

Supports my point that lv 9 req is obtainable at a usable time OP.

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> > > > > They made 9 REQ hard to get to on purpose. Gotta earn it by playing the objective. I’ve gotten to it quite a few times to have good time to use it before. Just takes a while to find the best way to get high quick.
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> > > > i think you are referring to the wrong high my friend. you have to show me your matches all of them or i think you are full of it. After all the insane -Yoink- i did, unless i see a video of how you are doing that i dont believe sorry.
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> > > > And again in the beta people were using it quiet often and it wasnt that bad. i know you havent so you think one person with a level 9 they really really have to earn it but in reality it wasnt that OP it was okay but a little strong. but one spartan laser could blowup a Phaeton easily. so way say “you need to be super BA” and still get owned by a simple spartan laser almost everyone gets in a pack. i have like 20 of them.
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> > > It shouldn’t be hard to realize that with every oowerful card there would be a lower point card to counter or else every newbie player would get detroyed with no way to combat back. Capturing bases and killing AI get you up the fastest all the while you’ll likely come by plenty of spartans to kill along the way especially if you play the objective and rush or defend bases. They give higher req energy when you do thise things because that is what warzone is about. If you are fast enough and lucky enough from the beginning to kill most the AI and capture the first base you could almost be at a 4 req level at the start especially if you push the center area and pick up more AI kills/spartan kills and capture the second base for a 5/6. After that it’s purely AI bosses, defending what you got and killing enemy spartans while trying to grab that last base. It is completely doable and has been done before. If you need more proof than the quick tip guide I just gave you then ask around and I bet people will say the same.
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> > It shouldnt feel like a total waste of a req to pull it out and than game over. its like a joke in Battlefield Friends and it was so bad they fixed that because it was annoying to get something and than game over. so this applies. have you played Halo 5 beta warzone. if you did you would know its not as bad as you make it sound. you are like “we if we make it slightly easier, than everyone will have one and its will be Armageddon all over again” and in reality “just a regular match with a few more vehicles n weapons in action and nothing else.”
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> > Also at base one i never get over level 2 and i destroying everything at home base in the beginning and capture so idk what magic you are doing there is no level 3 or 4 that ever happens and i went hard in the paint. you know how try hard going hard in the paint is? if you do than you understand. im not asking for 5 kills and im instantly at level 9 req. Halo you played halo 5 warzone beta? if you have than you will catch my drift. if not than you cant understand. its too mellow. there arent enough vehicles being used because it takes too long and when you finally do its not enough. but if you were a boss you got up quicker by destroying smaller vehicles and than more medium and than bigger vehicles come out to play. the action was way more tense than what it is now. bombs going of everyone. mother nature was -Yoink!- her pants there was that much action. this is actually quiet boring. So its agreed by most online that it needs fixing.
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> I’m not claiming that it doesn’t need fixing. If anything it does when I can’t pull out a 8 req BR more than a once every few matches. However I am arguing that is it completely doable and using your skill base as a bias to base mine on isn’t a rational argument as people will always either be better than you or know more exploits to get that req level higher. I’ve played plenty of matches where I got my 3 level br at the first base and my 5 level br at the second and have played with others that have done the same. Just because you haven’t doesn’t make it impossible so don’t alienate it just because you haven’t done it yet.

I know its doable as well but not enough time most times and its not fun when its starting to become fun and than game over. What happens is everyone becomes a Smegal and is like “my precious my precious ill never let you go” all because they dont want to waste it if there isnt a big opportunity. Again as i said impossible like a once in a blue moon. you have to over exaggerate to get them to understand. when i say i sniped a mantis a mile away with a SL im not actually a mile away. its for you to get the understanding. If i cant beat legendary solo with AI that are mentally limited, i should be about to be getting level 9 reqs way early. i was fight 3 wardens of eternal. that -Yoink- ait easily that should be worth the same as a level 10 or 11 req if they had one. thats why i should be getting level 9s sooner. so i can use it. whats the point of having a Phaeton but no time to use it? i want to have fun. i dont want warzone to feel like the story where right when it is just getting good its over.

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> > a few games back, went on a 25 streak, from about the 4 minute mark. i had lv9 available from ~750pts
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> Supports my point that lv 9 req is obtainable at a usable time OP.

so 1 game? im talking about opportunity for almost every game if you are the top dog to be getting level 9s. no fun if even the best players like me are only getting level 7s or 8 and even if 9s not enough time. as you just proved to me, once in a blue moon. Thats my point. no once in a blue moon. the opportunity to be a level 9 around 750 should be about 7/10 times as a top dog.

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> so 1 game? im talking about opportunity for almost every game if you are the top dog to be getting level 9s. no fun if even the best players like me are only getting level 7s or 8 and even if 9s not enough time. as you just proved to me, once in a blue moon. Thats my point. no once in a blue moon. the opportunity to be a level 9 around 750 should be about 7/10 times as a top dog.

By making it require less to get to level 9 you drop every other level too. Meaning warzone will be a power weapon and vehicle fest by the first 3-4 minutes in. While I agree that it should be lowered, having it possible almost every game is asking for too much. They put high level potential game changer cards level 9 on purpose, so that better teams can’t steamroll other teams with tons of level 9 req items. Heck without those there where 1000 to 35 point matches, now imagine that with that 1000 point team having tons of level 9 reqs every time. How is that fun? Once in every two games doable is fine. But asking to be fed level 9 req cards because you can’t get them yourself every game is another story.

I’ve only gotten up to level 8 so far…

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> > > > a few games back, went on a 25 streak, from about the 4 minute mark. i had lv9 available from ~750pts
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> > > > but after you hit six thats it. all you need. rockets, scorpions and sniper rifles at that point.
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> > so 1 game? im talking about opportunity for almost every game if you are the top dog to be getting level 9s. no fun if even the best players like me are only getting level 7s or 8 and even if 9s not enough time. as you just proved to me, once in a blue moon. Thats my point. no once in a blue moon. the opportunity to be a level 9 around 750 should be about 7/10 times as a top dog.
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> By making it require less to get to level 9 you drop every other level too. Meaning warzone will be a power weapon and vehicle fest by the first 3-4 minutes in. While I agree that it should be lowered, having it possible almost every game is asking for too much. They put high level potential game changer cards level 9 on purpose, so that better teams can’t steamroll other teams with tons of level 9 req items. Heck without those there where 1000 to 35 point matches, now imagine that with that 1000 point team having tons of level 9 reqs every time. How is that fun? Once in every two games doable is fine. But asking to be fed level 9 req cards because you can’t get them yourself every game is another story.

I top the scoreboard almost every game both on my team and the enemys. and I make it to level 8 when my team is at about 900 points. Basically meaning anything from 8 is a waste to even use at that point.