Update the playlists..

Games Other Halo
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For those of us who don’t enjoy reach nor playing social Halo 3 need an update for the playlists to amount for the loss of players. It’s almost impossible to run teams in Snipers, SWAT, and low level MLG. We need less playlists so that there will be more people searching in other playlists so that games can actually be found.

We need playlists updated accordingly or in similar manner.

Social:
Social Slayer
Multi-Team
Big Team, or Action Sack

Ranked:
Team Slayer
Team Doubles
MLG or Snipers

And either Lone Wolves or Rumble Pit.

Remove 7th on 7th, if they haven’t got the vidmaster by now they should be SOL, or make it actually on the 7th again.

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Nothing needs updated, if you aren’t finding anyone at low level MLG, then wait until Halo 3 is at its peak for the day which is usually 6-10PM GMT+0.

343i by the looks of it, are only focused on Halo: Reach as of now due to it being the newer game and lack of staff to support both games equally.

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> Nothing needs updated, if you aren’t finding anyone at low level MLG, then wait until Halo 3 is at its peak for the day which is usually 6-10PM GMT+0.
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> 343i by the looks of it, are only focused on Halo: Reach as of now due to it being the newer game and lack of staff to support both games equally.

You probably don’t play ranked or you play Halo: Reach is why you say that. I’m online at peak hours almost every day on Halo 3, you can’t do teams of 3’s in anything other then slayer, period. Running two’s has a low chance of finding matches in MLG, Snipers, and SWAT.

They definitely need to cut down the playlists, because some of the ones in social get less then 20 other then peak hours, so they have no reason to be there.

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Halo: 3 isn’t going to be updated. It’s finished.

If you can’t find a game in a certain playlist then play another playlist or another game. Other wise quit your -Yoinking!-.

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> Halo: 3 isn’t going to be updated. It’s finished.
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> If you can’t find a game in a certain playlist then play another playlist or another game. Other wise quit your -Yoinking!-.

I play the second most populated ranked playlist, doubles, and depending on the day & hour you can wait an upwards of 45 minutes for a match. If you don’t think that’s a disgrace to the game then you shouldn’t be in this section. Really easy for you to talk when your playing Reach all the time, or social. Sorry that someone wants to save the game that was once the greatest community on Xbox LIVE from going extinct, it used to be practically the only game that anyone played for the Xbox. Which Halo: Reach could’ve continued that legacy but thanks to Bungie wanting to change the experience they allowed Call of Duty to take over and destroy their own series they built from the ground up. Now get the -Yoink- out and go back to your Reach/Halo 4 section since you obviously just started playing Xbox LIVE in the last 1-2 years and didn’t get to enjoy the H2 & H3 experience.

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> Halo: 3 isn’t going to be updated. It’s finished.
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> If you can’t find a game in a certain playlist then play another playlist or another game. Other wise quit your -Yoinking!-.

Halo 3 was the 15th most played game on Live for the week ending March 26th. Whilst obviously this doesn’t refer to online multiplayer (hence the inclusion of Skyrim), at this point, chances are someone playing Halo 3 is playing it online. So whilst it’s old, it still has a relatively big population. It still also has map packs for sale. So why not consolidate playlists to allow for the people still playing it to find games quicker?

If it’s level of activity is too small, should players of the just released Operation Raccoon City (19th), or Saints Row the Third (16th) be cut adrift too?

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What makes you think that removing certain playlists would make people play the playlists that are left? For example, if all i played was dubs, and that was removed, why would i play mlg or whatever else is left? None of the playlists have 20 people in them, the populations havent been accurate for years. I can’t tell you the amount of times ive searched in a playlist that has apparently got 10 people in it, and found games instantly and play different people every game.

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> > Nothing needs updated, if you aren’t finding anyone at low level MLG, then wait until Halo 3 is at its peak for the day which is usually 6-10PM GMT+0.
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> > 343i by the looks of it, are only focused on Halo: Reach as of now due to it being the newer game and lack of staff to support both games equally.
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> You probably don’t play ranked or you play Halo: Reach is why you say that. I’m online at peak hours almost every day on Halo 3, you can’t do teams of 3’s in anything other then slayer, period. Running two’s has a low chance of finding matches in MLG, Snipers, and SWAT.
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> They definitely need to cut down the playlists, because some of the ones in social get less then 20 other then peak hours, so they have no reason to be there.

As said above, the population counts on everything related to Halo 3 has been inaccurate for months.

Halo 3 as also said, is old, it has been played and had its time, the playlists left there are for those who want to play them, if you can’t find a game, you will have to wait, wait and wait, because even if these social playlists are ‘underpopulated’, people still play them and enjoy them.

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> > > Nothing needs updated, if you aren’t finding anyone at low level MLG, then wait until Halo 3 is at its peak for the day which is usually 6-10PM GMT+0.
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> > > 343i by the looks of it, are only focused on Halo: Reach as of now due to it being the newer game and lack of staff to support both games equally.
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> > You probably don’t play ranked or you play Halo: Reach is why you say that. I’m online at peak hours almost every day on Halo 3, you can’t do teams of 3’s in anything other then slayer, period. Running two’s has a low chance of finding matches in MLG, Snipers, and SWAT.
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> > They definitely need to cut down the playlists, because some of the ones in social get less then 20 other then peak hours, so they have no reason to be there.
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> As said above, the population counts on everything related to Halo 3 has been inaccurate for months.
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> Halo 3 as also said, is old, it has been played and had its time, the playlists left there are for those who want to play them, if you can’t find a game, you will have to wait, wait and wait, because even if these social playlists are ‘underpopulated’, people still play them and enjoy them.

Maybe people enjoy them but as of now playlists like Team Mythic, 7 whatever, Social Skirmish, and SWAT are doing more harm then good and don’t belong there. They had removed playlists prior to the release of Reach because they anticipated that it wouldn’t hold up with the amount of playlists left, obviously they underestimated, so you honestly have no room to dispute that.

> What makes you think that removing certain playlists would make people play the playlists that are left? For example, if all i played was dubs, and that was removed, why would i play mlg or whatever else is left? None of the playlists have 20 people in them, the populations havent been accurate for years. I can’t tell you the amount of times ive searched in a playlist that has apparently got 10 people in it, and found games instantly and play different people every game.

Most of the people playing Halo 3 are there to play Halo 3, not just a certain playlist (besides MLG players, who are playing Halo 3 MLG and not Reach’s for a reason (who’se teams would probably move to Slayer anyhow if we got rid of it). Besides it’s pretty much common sense that getting rid of playlists boosts the plays of others, hence why developers do it in the first place.

EDIT: And this is a decision the people playing Halo 3 should be making, not by the people sitting on a forum disputing the obvious low population/and playlist overload problems and aren’t even playing it.

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> > > > Nothing needs updated, if you aren’t finding anyone at low level MLG, then wait until Halo 3 is at its peak for the day which is usually 6-10PM GMT+0.
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> > > > 343i by the looks of it, are only focused on Halo: Reach as of now due to it being the newer game and lack of staff to support both games equally.
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> > > You probably don’t play ranked or you play Halo: Reach is why you say that. I’m online at peak hours almost every day on Halo 3, you can’t do teams of 3’s in anything other then slayer, period. Running two’s has a low chance of finding matches in MLG, Snipers, and SWAT.
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> > > They definitely need to cut down the playlists, because some of the ones in social get less then 20 other then peak hours, so they have no reason to be there.
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> > As said above, the population counts on everything related to Halo 3 has been inaccurate for months.
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> > Halo 3 as also said, is old, it has been played and had its time, the playlists left there are for those who want to play them, if you can’t find a game, you will have to wait, wait and wait, because even if these social playlists are ‘underpopulated’, people still play them and enjoy them.
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> Maybe people enjoy them but as of now playlists like Team Mythic, 7 whatever, Social Skirmish, and SWAT are doing more harm then good and don’t belong there. They had removed playlists prior to the release of Reach because they anticipated that it wouldn’t hold up with the amount of playlists left, obviously they underestimated, so you honestly have no room to dispute that.

Team Mythic is a place for those who wants to play all the map packs they either own or have purchased, hence why it is all DLC required, and it will ONLY be DLC maps on that playlist as far as I know, so it has a purpose for those who want to play them.

Skirmish is the only place to play Objective in Halo 3 alone, considering you actually get rewarded for playing the objective in Halo 3, it should also stay, a lot of people were playing Skirmish on the 7th, I was finding matches near instant.

Then we get to SWAT, SWAT was one of the most popular gametypes in Halo 3, and still is in Halo: Reach, it is a completely different play style and relies on reactions and aim, it is in a way, one of the most hardest playlists to master, it won’t be removed.

7 of the 7th will NEVER be removed, it is needed to allow players to get the Vidmaster Challenge: 7 on 7, no other playlist has a monthly EXP reset, regardless if the achievement gives you nothing, it is still an achievement and needed to achieve 79/79 achievements on Halo 3.

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You should be able to find games no problem searching snipers in 2’s 50 high. 40 to 50 is your best bet finding games. Most people that still play snipers are 50’s or high 40s. I find games quick between 5 - 2am in snipers. Other playlists are a lot less populated so all in all. 40 - 50 are your best options or you can arrange games with your friends who are the same skill level. it’s not as fun but at least you’ll be able to find games and play with other people you know.

That’s what everyone did in halo 2 after halo 3 came out. They just arranged games and played with other people they knew.

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> > > > > Nothing needs updated, if you aren’t finding anyone at low level MLG, then wait until Halo 3 is at its peak for the day which is usually 6-10PM GMT+0.
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> > > > > 343i by the looks of it, are only focused on Halo: Reach as of now due to it being the newer game and lack of staff to support both games equally.
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> > > > You probably don’t play ranked or you play Halo: Reach is why you say that. I’m online at peak hours almost every day on Halo 3, you can’t do teams of 3’s in anything other then slayer, period. Running two’s has a low chance of finding matches in MLG, Snipers, and SWAT.
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> > > > They definitely need to cut down the playlists, because some of the ones in social get less then 20 other then peak hours, so they have no reason to be there.
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> > > As said above, the population counts on everything related to Halo 3 has been inaccurate for months.
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> > > Halo 3 as also said, is old, it has been played and had its time, the playlists left there are for those who want to play them, if you can’t find a game, you will have to wait, wait and wait, because even if these social playlists are ‘underpopulated’, people still play them and enjoy them.
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> > Maybe people enjoy them but as of now playlists like Team Mythic, 7 whatever, Social Skirmish, and SWAT are doing more harm then good and don’t belong there. They had removed playlists prior to the release of Reach because they anticipated that it wouldn’t hold up with the amount of playlists left, obviously they underestimated, so you honestly have no room to dispute that.
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> Team Mythic is a place for those who wants to play all the map packs they either own or have purchased, hence why it is all DLC required, and it will ONLY be DLC maps on that playlist as far as I know, so it has a purpose for those who want to play them.
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> Skirmish is the only place to play Objective in Halo 3 alone, considering you actually get rewarded for playing the objective in Halo 3, it should also stay, a lot of people were playing Skirmish on the 7th, I was finding matches near instant.
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> Then we get to SWAT, SWAT was one of the most popular gametypes in Halo 3, and still is in Halo: Reach, it is a completely different play style and relies on reactions and aim, it is in a way, one of the most hardest playlists to master, it won’t be removed.
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> 7 of the 7th will NEVER be removed, it is needed to allow players to get the Vidmaster Challenge: 7 on 7, no other playlist has a monthly EXP reset, regardless if the achievement gives you nothing, it is still an achievement and needed to achieve 79/79 achievements on Halo 3.

I don’t disagree with what you said about the playlists, but the fact of the matter is they are doing more damage by splitting up the population and making outrage queues for playlists. Lets go ahead and say we keep these playlists, come Halo 4 Halo 3 will be left useless, as with the deflation of players and large amount of playlists to ratio would completely destroy the playability. Again if you haven’t got the achievement on 7 on 7th by now you should just be SOL, either that or actually put it on the 7th again like it was originally intended. Like I had put in my edit it should be up to the players of Halo 3 to decide, not the ones who aren’t even there on the game to not know where I’m coming from.

> You should be able to find games no problem searching snipers in 2’s 50 high. 40 to 50 is your best bet finding games. Most people that still play snipers are 50’s or high 40s. I find games quick between 5 - 2am in snipers. Other playlists are a lot less populated so all in all. 40 - 50 are your best options or you can arrange games with your friends who are the same skill level. it’s not as fun but at least you’ll be able to find games and play with other people you know.
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> That’s what everyone did in halo 2 after halo 3 came out. They just arranged games and played with other people they knew.

But the majority of people aren’t 40-50 leaving the playlists only available to a small set of people. If we lower the amount of playlists more people will be able to play at lower levels and get up to 50 on the odd playlist we leave.

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I agree with you though, I was just stating how it is for me as I don’t have any problems finding games in any playlist really other than swat and MLG. Which have always been underpopulated.

They should minimize the playlist’s or at least add an incentive like Double exp for the people who still play halo 3. Though Halo 3 is a very old game in terms of a video game life span, there are still plenty people that would benefit from double exp or updated playlists and more people may come back to halo 3.

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> What makes you think that removing certain playlists would make people play the playlists that are left? For example, if all i played was dubs, and that was removed, why would i play mlg or whatever else is left? None of the playlists have 20 people in them, the populations havent been accurate for years. I can’t tell you the amount of times ive searched in a playlist that has apparently got 10 people in it, and found games instantly and play different people every game.

That’s a poor example, because doubles has no other place to be folded into.

Team Snipers and SWAT could easily be put into heavy rotation in Team Slayer.

For the record though, I’ve been unable to get a match on Team Doubles for months. I’m sure it’s great if you’re ranked 40 up, but I’m ranked 12 and my partner 19.

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> > What makes you think that removing certain playlists would make people play the playlists that are left? For example, if all i played was dubs, and that was removed, why would i play mlg or whatever else is left? None of the playlists have 20 people in them, the populations havent been accurate for years. I can’t tell you the amount of times ive searched in a playlist that has apparently got 10 people in it, and found games instantly and play different people every game.
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> That’s a poor example, because doubles has no other place to be folded into.
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> Team Snipers and SWAT could easily be put into heavy rotation in Team Slayer.
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> For the record though, I’ve been unable to get a match on Team Doubles for months. I’m sure it’s great if you’re ranked 40 up, but I’m ranked 12 and my partner 19.

What i am saying is, if they were to remove a playlist that i played, i wouldn’t change playlists i would stop playing because the playlist i enjoyed was taken away.

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> > > What makes you think that removing certain playlists would make people play the playlists that are left? For example, if all i played was dubs, and that was removed, why would i play mlg or whatever else is left? None of the playlists have 20 people in them, the populations havent been accurate for years. I can’t tell you the amount of times ive searched in a playlist that has apparently got 10 people in it, and found games instantly and play different people every game.
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> > That’s a poor example, because doubles has no other place to be folded into.
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> > Team Snipers and SWAT could easily be put into heavy rotation in Team Slayer.
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> > For the record though, I’ve been unable to get a match on Team Doubles for months. I’m sure it’s great if you’re ranked 40 up, but I’m ranked 12 and my partner 19.
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> What i am saying is, if they were to remove a playlist that i played, i wouldn’t change playlists i would stop playing because the playlist i enjoyed was taken away.

You act as if everyone was as closed minded as you and only enjoys one playlist, Halo 3 generally plays the same in most playlists where their only alternative to go is Reach which play completely different.

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> > > > What makes you think that removing certain playlists would make people play the playlists that are left? For example, if all i played was dubs, and that was removed, why would i play mlg or whatever else is left? None of the playlists have 20 people in them, the populations havent been accurate for years. I can’t tell you the amount of times ive searched in a playlist that has apparently got 10 people in it, and found games instantly and play different people every game.
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> > > That’s a poor example, because doubles has no other place to be folded into.
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> > > Team Snipers and SWAT could easily be put into heavy rotation in Team Slayer.
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> > > For the record though, I’ve been unable to get a match on Team Doubles for months. I’m sure it’s great if you’re ranked 40 up, but I’m ranked 12 and my partner 19.
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> > What i am saying is, if they were to remove a playlist that i played, i wouldn’t change playlists i would stop playing because the playlist i enjoyed was taken away.
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> You act as if everyone was as closed minded as you and only enjoys one playlist, Halo 3 generally plays the same in most playlists where their only alternative to go is Reach which play completely different.

Plenty of people only play the playlists that they like, its not just one playlist. For example what if someone likes dubs mlg and swat and all of them get taken out? Sure some people will just continue to play Halo 3 no matter what, but there will also be people that will stop playing.

Anyway, i think this debate is pretty pointless because 343 aren’t going to update halo 3 at all and to be honest, with what they’re doing to halo 4, i wouldn’t want them to touch halo 3 at all!

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With SWAT for example, it wouldn’t be gone, but would be folded into another playlist, Team Slayer, on heavy rotation, so it would come up very often in that.

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Remove the map pack restrictions for all playlists expect for social big team. And remove some un-needed social playlists.

Other thing. You only need 2 map packs for the MLG playlist to be able to play all the maps, STILL you need ALL the map packs to play it.