Update on Warzone 12-Man Fireteams!

They just released the trailer for Warzone Warlord!!! I can’t wait to play this.

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> They just released the trailer for Warzone Warlord!!! I can’t wait to play this.

Nice! I just found another Warlord trailer!
(this video is playing as soon as the page is loaded).

Amazing!!

So lets say you get 12 people in the fireteam and 1 guy leaves, then you cant play warzone and you cant play BTB, so all the other people will leave too and boom you are alone. This Idea is stupid.

just make one playlist up to 6 and one for 7+ and let us choose.

if not please set the arena playlist fireteam limit to 2 because im sick of being slayed by cordinated 4man teams…

Awesome! I will be trying it today once I get back from school :smiley:

Why make this only a weekend playlist? You’ll bring in a lot more players if it’s permanent.

Also when is Warzone Turbo coming back? I have so many reqs I wanna plow through the enemy team with.

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> Why make this only a weekend playlist? You’ll bring in a lot more players if it’s permanent.
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> Also when is Warzone Turbo coming back? I have so many reqs I wanna plow through the enemy team with.

Because the last thing we need is another Warzone playlist. Never mind one that requires 12 people at once just to start matchmaking.

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> > Yeah… This idea seems like a poor one with h5s questionable lobbies. Someone is going to get kicked, which will result in unbalanced match ups.
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> Lol true. But what about player count for those 12 man fireteams. I feel like you would start recognizing names real quick.

I’m afraid this is what it will become. A few hardcore teams will dominate the playlist and it will die. I’ve been farmed by some of these teams both as a solo player and on a fireteam. Not something I will want to be doing 3-4 times a night.

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> They just released the trailer for Warzone Warlord!!! I can’t wait to play this.

Maybe they should call it waspzone lol

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> > Why make this only a weekend playlist? You’ll bring in a lot more players if it’s permanent.
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> > Also when is Warzone Turbo coming back? I have so many reqs I wanna plow through the enemy team with.
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> Because the last thing we need is another Warzone playlist. Never mind one that requires 12 people at once just to start matchmaking.

The more Warzone Playlists the better. The gamemode needs variety anyway. Plus Warzone started with 12 Man Teams. It makes no sense to bring it back and only have it on the weekend.

Sounds good to me. Everyone prepare to rumble. If you play against Devastated, try to farm them otherwise just core and move on. YouTube videos of Allegiance mopping the floor with Devastated are good practice.

Details: Halo 5 “Warlords” Warzone Playlist

> Last Friday we announced the upcoming “Warlords” playlist test for Warzone which is set to go live tomorrow afternoon, Jan. 27, at approx. 2 p.m. PST. This new weekend-only update is a test designed to accommodate larger Fireteams that were negatively impacted by last month’s change for maximum 6-man Fireteams in the standard Warzone playlists. This is being viewed as a test internally because frankly it may not be a great experience, especially if the popluation of pre-made 12-man Fireteams is low, resulting in longer-than-desired wait times for matchmaking. Still, we’re looking forward to rolling this out and seeing how larger teams respond and what the experience is like!
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> Mark your calendars, rally your teammates and get ready for all-out 12-man Fireteam mayhem kicking off tomorrow. Join the “Halo” club on Xbox One and use the built-in “Looking for Group” feature to help fill out your roster - you can only enter matchmaking as a 12-man team. As a special bonus for participating in this “Warlords” playlist, the XP rewards earned during a match will be increased!
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> The 343 team has a 12-man roster standing by and will be jumping into “Warlords” tomorrow afternoon at approx. 3 p.m.! Keep an eye out for our 343 emblems in-game and we look forward to seeing you on the battlefield!
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> Here are some additional details addressing quesitons many of you have raised (special thanks to 343 Design Director David Fifield for sharing some insights with us!):
> What type of Warzone is being offered? Is there anything different with the game itself?
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> “Warlords” will be the same experience as the current Warzone playlist except it is restricted to and requires a 12-man Fireteam to join.
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> Is Warzone Assasult included?
> No, this is regular Warzone.
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> How long will “Warlords” be available?
> The Warlords playlist will launch Jan. 27 at approximately 2 p.m. PST and will come down on Monday morning, Jan. 30. This is being launched as a weekend playlist to help focus the population and hopefully alleviate lower-population issues. The team will monitor feedback and matchmaking data to help inform what shape “Warlords” may take in the future. Depending on feedback we may look to expand it to other days or even leave it up all the time if we find that helps teams coordinate better.
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> Will the Warlords playlist offer bonus XP?
> Yes!
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> Can we join the playlist if we’re not in a party of 12?
> No, you’ll need a pre-made Fireteam of 12 players before you can enter matchmaking.
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> What happens if a player gets disconnected during the match?
> If a Fireteam member gets disconnected they can “join in progress” onto someone from their friends list.
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> Did the team give thought to loosening the restrictions to perhaps something like “8 to 12” max-Fireteam size to make it easier to match?
> We did, but 8 vs. 12 doesn’t sound good and there wouldn’t be any groups of 4 to bolster those groups to 12. We likewise considered groups of 6 or 12 to broaden participation, but there is some tricky elements to that “or” condition when trying to validate the teams in matchmaking. As with all our lists, Warlords will be an evolving experience as we see what works and what doesn’t.
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> This is an interesting experiment but is the team working on a more systemic solution to solve for party-size disparities in matchmaking overall?
> We are constantly evaluating and experimenting with how teams and singles are matched. Sometimes these changes are apparent to everyone, sometimes they are subtle and under the hood. As always it’s our goal to create the best experiences for the most people possible. It’s always a balancing act to define what is good matchmaking. Look for a lot more dialog, surveys and new playlists as the team here continues to adjust in the seasons to come.
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> How has the 6-man Fireteam limit test been going? What has the team found?
> The change to 6-person Fireteams has had a positive effect on Warzone results for a large majority of matches played and our current plan is to keep it in place and monitor as we do with every list we run. There is a very obvious problem with the limit of 6 though and that relates to the passionate fans in large clubs and companies who truly enjoy the coordinated tactics and team efforts that unfold when 12 Spartans blitz a goal together. Many of us here in the studio love and miss this as well. Hence Warlords. We don’t want to set back the improvements made with 6-person teams, nor do we want to lose the 12-person spectacle either.

I’m done with 343 they’re purposely trying to make 12 man warzone fail so it players quit you’ll be out manned and more will quit then we’ll have the same problems from previous halos games like btb use to have. They know it they made a warzone playlist they way it was before no one would play this bs 6 man. They’re trying to cater to these casual players who don’t even attempt to play the game correct. Then on top of that we can’t even get more maps for btb even though we have great forge maps out there from the community to at least make up for the warzone fiasco…I’ve played on great remakes in customs instead we get maps that feel more like big arena maps not btb maps most aren’t even vehicle friendly wtf 343…now that I think about it 343 has lost me and I hope more as customers halo 4 multiplayer was horrible HALO MCC was broken for forever now they’re screwing up H5. 343 had 3 chances and failed I’m done

Well since you’ve basically confirmed the 6-man limit will be permanent I’d really enjoy it if you’d make Warlords permanent without a fireteam limit at all. One of the things we’ve been asking for since this limit started. Let everyone who wants to, play in a no limits hardcore Warlords playlist regardless of party size and keep the limit in normal WZ for the players who want the limited experience.

Give WZ parties of 7-11 someplace to play WZ. Hell, when I’m playing solo I’d rather play with and against team oriented players. Give us a permanent hardcore WZ playlist. You’ve already done the hard part of creating another playlist, just remove the limit after the weekend and keep the playlist. Even you keep saying you don’t think the 12 man only limit is the best idea, so do something better. Please.

Its needs to be permanent, if they have no incentive to change back normal WZ, then I have no incentive to come back to Halo and that’s not even being overly dramatic ask around I haven’t played for over a month since the update til few days ago to brush up for WarLords.

Reading through the replies, one says its set for failure if someone leaves the team, ummm if they are leave why the hell are they on you your team in the first place?

Random disconnects are covered, “Join in progress” obviously since no random -Yoink- person is taking your open spot.

I have heard great ideas too, just add in WarLords with no FT size required and solo players that want to hit up full teams they can, or they can use normal WZ. There are choices as there A PILE of choices for arena, ex Ranked and Unranked.

Lol better idea, Just keep WZ Warlords and make it the ranked playlist for WZ Thumbs Up

Anyways I’m down for whatever as long this goes in a different and better direction, I realize there will be flaws but stuff can be fixed with this new playlist.

#MakeHaloGreatAgain

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> Sounds good to me. Everyone prepare to rumble. If you play against Devastated, try to farm them otherwise just core and move on. YouTube videos of Allegiance mopping the floor with Devastated are good practice.

Lol Chesse why you so savage bro. Haha I miss playing with you guys. :frowning:

#MakeHaloGreatAgain

Yes me too buddy hit me up!

Has anyone played it yet and is it fun

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> Has anyone played it yet and is it fun

It doesn’t launch until 2PM Pacific (5PM Eastern) today.

To be honest I never have to wait more than few seconds for a match in Warzone…
WZ Assault is another topic - because of FF and WZ and I guess especially Socials you can barely find any Assault matches. :confused:

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Hey how come WZ Assault hasn’t been included in this Warzone Warlords thing? So many people including myself and my WARBOYS Company have been waiting for WZ Assault to have the ability to have 12 Man Teams. Me and my friends are getting pretty tired of carrying our stupid randoms who don’t know how to hold a base and jump in the driver seats of our ONI Warthogs and Gungooses when we’re holding down the Core Room with them.