Update on Warzone 12-Man Fireteams!

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> For anyone who needs people to play warzone with, join the Halo 5 Warzone club. Our only focus is warzone which makes finding a lobby easier.

Please use the recruiting or Spartan company forums if you want to advertise your company, thanks.

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> > Hey folks - I wanted to share a quick update on the Warzone Fireteam “test” and plans for a NEW test that will be kicking off next weekend!
> >
> > As you know, late last year the Warzone design team implemented a test changing the max number of players in a WZ Fireteam from 12 to 6. The reasoning for this test was in response to feedback and data showing that the vast majority of WZ players were entering matchmaking either solo or in small Fireteams and facing off against pre-made 12-man squads was resulting in a poor experience. Games of individual/smaller disparate groups matching against seasoned 12-man pre-made Fireteams often resulted in lop-sided victories and in extreme cases, straight up “farming” of these helpless individuals for the duration of a game. So far the test is indeed showing that blow out victories/defeats are less common and feedback from solo/small Fireteam players has been positive.
> >
> > That said, we also recognize that while technically a minority in terms of the overall population, there is still an active and passionate group of Halo 5 Companies that have built a strong community regularly playing in 12-man Fireteam WZ matches. The change noted above negatively impacted that play style and segment of our population so the team has been working on potential ways to satisfy both audiences.
> >
> > While we realize there are some tradeoffs and potential shortcomings that may not make this the ideal permanent solution - namely potentially long wait times depending on the health of the “premade 12-man Fireteam population” - the 343 team still feels it’s worth testing out a new Warzone playlist that specifically caters to large Fireteams.
> >
> > Mark your calendars. Rally your Halo 5 Companies and assemble your Fireteams. Prepare for the “Warlords” playlist coming to Halo 5 Warzone on Friday, Jan. 27 at approx. 2PM PST. This is going to be run as a test and given population constraints will be setup to run for the weekend, similar in fashion to the Mythic WZ Firefight playlist.
> >
> > It’s important to note that you’ll ONLY be able to enter matchmaking in the Warlords playlist if you’re in a 12-man Fireteam. If this sounds cool to you but you don’t have enough friends currently, look into joining a Halo 5 Company and/or check out the official “Halo” club on Xbox One. Within the Halo club you can utilize the “Looking for Group” feature to find 11 more Spartans to join you in Warzone. We’re working on putting together a 343 Fireteam right now and look forward to doing battle next Friday. And if Uny, Grim and I can’t fill out our roster we’ll be in the Halo club looking for 9 more folks to take up arms.
> >
> > Thank you for your patience and understanding as we’ve worked through these issues and we look forward to your help and feedback as we test the Halo 5 “Warlords” Warzone playlist next Friday-Sunday. See you then!
> >

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> So apparently people dont need to wait for this weekend to get 12man Fireteam in the WARLORD playlist. I guess there’s a way to bypass the 6 player limit. Is 343 aware of this? I dont want to get flag, but if you need me to provide example and games, I can certainly do so. Can a 343i employee please address this issue.

The only way I can think of people doing this is getting 2 squads of 6 to search at the same time on assault because that has a low population

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> > >
> > > Hey folks - I wanted to share a quick update on the Warzone Fireteam “test” and plans for a NEW test that will be kicking off next weekend!
> > >
> > > As you know, late last year the Warzone design team implemented a test changing the max number of players in a WZ Fireteam from 12 to 6. The reasoning for this test was in response to feedback and data showing that the vast majority of WZ players were entering matchmaking either solo or in small Fireteams and facing off against pre-made 12-man squads was resulting in a poor experience. Games of individual/smaller disparate groups matching against seasoned 12-man pre-made Fireteams often resulted in lop-sided victories and in extreme cases, straight up “farming” of these helpless individuals for the duration of a game. So far the test is indeed showing that blow out victories/defeats are less common and feedback from solo/small Fireteam players has been positive.
> > >
> > > That said, we also recognize that while technically a minority in terms of the overall population, there is still an active and passionate group of Halo 5 Companies that have built a strong community regularly playing in 12-man Fireteam WZ matches. The change noted above negatively impacted that play style and segment of our population so the team has been working on potential ways to satisfy both audiences.
> > >
> > > While we realize there are some tradeoffs and potential shortcomings that may not make this the ideal permanent solution - namely potentially long wait times depending on the health of the “premade 12-man Fireteam population” - the 343 team still feels it’s worth testing out a new Warzone playlist that specifically caters to large Fireteams.
> > >
> > > Mark your calendars. Rally your Halo 5 Companies and assemble your Fireteams. Prepare for the “Warlords” playlist coming to Halo 5 Warzone on Friday, Jan. 27 at approx. 2PM PST. This is going to be run as a test and given population constraints will be setup to run for the weekend, similar in fashion to the Mythic WZ Firefight playlist.
> > >
> > > It’s important to note that you’ll ONLY be able to enter matchmaking in the Warlords playlist if you’re in a 12-man Fireteam. If this sounds cool to you but you don’t have enough friends currently, look into joining a Halo 5 Company and/or check out the official “Halo” club on Xbox One. Within the Halo club you can utilize the “Looking for Group” feature to find 11 more Spartans to join you in Warzone. We’re working on putting together a 343 Fireteam right now and look forward to doing battle next Friday. And if Uny, Grim and I can’t fill out our roster we’ll be in the Halo club looking for 9 more folks to take up arms.
> > >
> > > Thank you for your patience and understanding as we’ve worked through these issues and we look forward to your help and feedback as we test the Halo 5 “Warlords” Warzone playlist next Friday-Sunday. See you then!
> > >

> >
> > So apparently people dont need to wait for this weekend to get 12man Fireteam in the WARLORD playlist. I guess there’s a way to bypass the 6 player limit. Is 343 aware of this? I dont want to get flag, but if you need me to provide example and games, I can certainly do so. Can a 343i employee please address this issue.
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> The only way I can think of people doing this is getting 2 squads of 6 to search at the same time on assault because that has a low population

Nah it can be done in both Playlist. I’ve seen screencaps on my Activity Feed.

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> > > >
> > > > Hey folks - I wanted to share a quick update on the Warzone Fireteam “test” and plans for a NEW test that will be kicking off next weekend!
> > > >
> > > > As you know, late last year the Warzone design team implemented a test changing the max number of players in a WZ Fireteam from 12 to 6. The reasoning for this test was in response to feedback and data showing that the vast majority of WZ players were entering matchmaking either solo or in small Fireteams and facing off against pre-made 12-man squads was resulting in a poor experience. Games of individual/smaller disparate groups matching against seasoned 12-man pre-made Fireteams often resulted in lop-sided victories and in extreme cases, straight up “farming” of these helpless individuals for the duration of a game. So far the test is indeed showing that blow out victories/defeats are less common and feedback from solo/small Fireteam players has been positive.
> > > >
> > > > That said, we also recognize that while technically a minority in terms of the overall population, there is still an active and passionate group of Halo 5 Companies that have built a strong community regularly playing in 12-man Fireteam WZ matches. The change noted above negatively impacted that play style and segment of our population so the team has been working on potential ways to satisfy both audiences.
> > > >
> > > > While we realize there are some tradeoffs and potential shortcomings that may not make this the ideal permanent solution - namely potentially long wait times depending on the health of the “premade 12-man Fireteam population” - the 343 team still feels it’s worth testing out a new Warzone playlist that specifically caters to large Fireteams.
> > > >
> > > > Mark your calendars. Rally your Halo 5 Companies and assemble your Fireteams. Prepare for the “Warlords” playlist coming to Halo 5 Warzone on Friday, Jan. 27 at approx. 2PM PST. This is going to be run as a test and given population constraints will be setup to run for the weekend, similar in fashion to the Mythic WZ Firefight playlist.
> > > >
> > > > It’s important to note that you’ll ONLY be able to enter matchmaking in the Warlords playlist if you’re in a 12-man Fireteam. If this sounds cool to you but you don’t have enough friends currently, look into joining a Halo 5 Company and/or check out the official “Halo” club on Xbox One. Within the Halo club you can utilize the “Looking for Group” feature to find 11 more Spartans to join you in Warzone. We’re working on putting together a 343 Fireteam right now and look forward to doing battle next Friday. And if Uny, Grim and I can’t fill out our roster we’ll be in the Halo club looking for 9 more folks to take up arms.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for your patience and understanding as we’ve worked through these issues and we look forward to your help and feedback as we test the Halo 5 “Warlords” Warzone playlist next Friday-Sunday. See you then!
> > > >

> > >
> > > So apparently people dont need to wait for this weekend to get 12man Fireteam in the WARLORD playlist. I guess there’s a way to bypass the 6 player limit. Is 343 aware of this? I dont want to get flag, but if you need me to provide example and games, I can certainly do so. Can a 343i employee please address this issue.
> >
> > The only way I can think of people doing this is getting 2 squads of 6 to search at the same time on assault because that has a low population
>
> Nah it can be done in both Playlist. I’ve seen screencaps on my Activity Feed.

oh lol rip

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> > > > > 2780570662795584;1:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey folks - I wanted to share a quick update on the Warzone Fireteam “test” and plans for a NEW test that will be kicking off next weekend!
> > > > >
> > > > > As you know, late last year the Warzone design team implemented a test changing the max number of players in a WZ Fireteam from 12 to 6. The reasoning for this test was in response to feedback and data showing that the vast majority of WZ players were entering matchmaking either solo or in small Fireteams and facing off against pre-made 12-man squads was resulting in a poor experience. Games of individual/smaller disparate groups matching against seasoned 12-man pre-made Fireteams often resulted in lop-sided victories and in extreme cases, straight up “farming” of these helpless individuals for the duration of a game. So far the test is indeed showing that blow out victories/defeats are less common and feedback from solo/small Fireteam players has been positive.
> > > > >
> > > > > That said, we also recognize that while technically a minority in terms of the overall population, there is still an active and passionate group of Halo 5 Companies that have built a strong community regularly playing in 12-man Fireteam WZ matches. The change noted above negatively impacted that play style and segment of our population so the team has been working on potential ways to satisfy both audiences.
> > > > >
> > > > > While we realize there are some tradeoffs and potential shortcomings that may not make this the ideal permanent solution - namely potentially long wait times depending on the health of the “premade 12-man Fireteam population” - the 343 team still feels it’s worth testing out a new Warzone playlist that specifically caters to large Fireteams.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark your calendars. Rally your Halo 5 Companies and assemble your Fireteams. Prepare for the “Warlords” playlist coming to Halo 5 Warzone on Friday, Jan. 27 at approx. 2PM PST. This is going to be run as a test and given population constraints will be setup to run for the weekend, similar in fashion to the Mythic WZ Firefight playlist.
> > > > >
> > > > > It’s important to note that you’ll ONLY be able to enter matchmaking in the Warlords playlist if you’re in a 12-man Fireteam. If this sounds cool to you but you don’t have enough friends currently, look into joining a Halo 5 Company and/or check out the official “Halo” club on Xbox One. Within the Halo club you can utilize the “Looking for Group” feature to find 11 more Spartans to join you in Warzone. We’re working on putting together a 343 Fireteam right now and look forward to doing battle next Friday. And if Uny, Grim and I can’t fill out our roster we’ll be in the Halo club looking for 9 more folks to take up arms.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you for your patience and understanding as we’ve worked through these issues and we look forward to your help and feedback as we test the Halo 5 “Warlords” Warzone playlist next Friday-Sunday. See you then!
> > > > >

> > > >
> > > > So apparently people dont need to wait for this weekend to get 12man Fireteam in the WARLORD playlist. I guess there’s a way to bypass the 6 player limit. Is 343 aware of this? I dont want to get flag, but if you need me to provide example and games, I can certainly do so. Can a 343i employee please address this issue.
> > >
> > > The only way I can think of people doing this is getting 2 squads of 6 to search at the same time on assault because that has a low population
> >
> > Nah it can be done in both Playlist. I’ve seen screencaps on my Activity Feed.
>
> oh lol rip

Players have proven that they are smarter than 343i. “You build it, we’ll find ways to break it”. Did you get what I sent you?

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> > > > > > 2780570662795584;1:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hey folks - I wanted to share a quick update on the Warzone Fireteam “test” and plans for a NEW test that will be kicking off next weekend!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As you know, late last year the Warzone design team implemented a test changing the max number of players in a WZ Fireteam from 12 to 6. The reasoning for this test was in response to feedback and data showing that the vast majority of WZ players were entering matchmaking either solo or in small Fireteams and facing off against pre-made 12-man squads was resulting in a poor experience. Games of individual/smaller disparate groups matching against seasoned 12-man pre-made Fireteams often resulted in lop-sided victories and in extreme cases, straight up “farming” of these helpless individuals for the duration of a game. So far the test is indeed showing that blow out victories/defeats are less common and feedback from solo/small Fireteam players has been positive.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That said, we also recognize that while technically a minority in terms of the overall population, there is still an active and passionate group of Halo 5 Companies that have built a strong community regularly playing in 12-man Fireteam WZ matches. The change noted above negatively impacted that play style and segment of our population so the team has been working on potential ways to satisfy both audiences.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > While we realize there are some tradeoffs and potential shortcomings that may not make this the ideal permanent solution - namely potentially long wait times depending on the health of the “premade 12-man Fireteam population” - the 343 team still feels it’s worth testing out a new Warzone playlist that specifically caters to large Fireteams.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mark your calendars. Rally your Halo 5 Companies and assemble your Fireteams. Prepare for the “Warlords” playlist coming to Halo 5 Warzone on Friday, Jan. 27 at approx. 2PM PST. This is going to be run as a test and given population constraints will be setup to run for the weekend, similar in fashion to the Mythic WZ Firefight playlist.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It’s important to note that you’ll ONLY be able to enter matchmaking in the Warlords playlist if you’re in a 12-man Fireteam. If this sounds cool to you but you don’t have enough friends currently, look into joining a Halo 5 Company and/or check out the official “Halo” club on Xbox One. Within the Halo club you can utilize the “Looking for Group” feature to find 11 more Spartans to join you in Warzone. We’re working on putting together a 343 Fireteam right now and look forward to doing battle next Friday. And if Uny, Grim and I can’t fill out our roster we’ll be in the Halo club looking for 9 more folks to take up arms.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you for your patience and understanding as we’ve worked through these issues and we look forward to your help and feedback as we test the Halo 5 “Warlords” Warzone playlist next Friday-Sunday. See you then!
> > > > > >

> > > > >
> > > > > So apparently people dont need to wait for this weekend to get 12man Fireteam in the WARLORD playlist. I guess there’s a way to bypass the 6 player limit. Is 343 aware of this? I dont want to get flag, but if you need me to provide example and games, I can certainly do so. Can a 343i employee please address this issue.
> > > >
> > > > The only way I can think of people doing this is getting 2 squads of 6 to search at the same time on assault because that has a low population
> > >
> > > Nah it can be done in both Playlist. I’ve seen screencaps on my Activity Feed.
> >
> > oh lol rip
>
> Players have proven that they are smarter than 343i. “You build it, we’ll find ways to break it”. Did you get what I sent you?

Yes I did, thanks for showing me.

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> > For anyone who needs people to play warzone with, join the Halo 5 Warzone club. Our only focus is warzone which makes finding a lobby easier.
>
> Please use the recruiting or Spartan company forums if you want to advertise your company, thanks.

It’s not a spartan company… It’s a clubs for xbox live group that anyone can join for a more focused LFG pool.

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> > For anyone who needs people to play warzone with, join the Halo 5 Warzone club. Our only focus is warzone which makes finding a lobby easier.
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> Please use the recruiting or Spartan company forums if you want to advertise your company, thanks.

If anything, for the purposes of this upcoming test, you might want to consider pinning my original post. Just a suggestion.

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> > > For anyone who needs people to play warzone with, join the Halo 5 Warzone club. Our only focus is warzone which makes finding a lobby easier.
> >
> > Please use the recruiting or Spartan company forums if you want to advertise your company, thanks.
>
> It’s not a spartan company… It’s a clubs for xbox live group that anyone can join for a more focused LFG pool.

If that is the case, then the Recruiting subforum is still the appropriate place to go for advertising your Xbox Club.

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> It’s not a spartan company… It’s a clubs for xbox live group that anyone can join for a more focused LFG pool.

Regardless, this thread is not for recruiting.

Back on topic please :slight_smile:

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> > > > For anyone who needs people to play warzone with, join the Halo 5 Warzone club. Our only focus is warzone which makes finding a lobby easier.
> > >
> > > Please use the recruiting or Spartan company forums if you want to advertise your company, thanks.
> >
> > It’s not a spartan company… It’s a clubs for xbox live group that anyone can join for a more focused LFG pool.
>
> If that is the case, then the Recruiting subforum is still an appropriate place to go for advertising your Xbox Club.

We don’t recruit, everyone is welcome. If I had it my way, all join requests would automatically be accepted. The club only exists as a tool for players when they specifically want to play warzone for a much more efficient LFG search experience.

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> > > > > For anyone who needs people to play warzone with, join the Halo 5 Warzone club. Our only focus is warzone which makes finding a lobby easier.
> > > >
> > > > Please use the recruiting or Spartan company forums if you want to advertise your company, thanks.
> > >
> > > It’s not a spartan company… It’s a clubs for xbox live group that anyone can join for a more focused LFG pool.
> >
> > If that is the case, then the Recruiting subforum is still an appropriate place to go for advertising your Xbox Club.
>
> We don’t recruit, everyone is welcome. If I had it my way, all join requests would automatically be accepted. The club only exists as a tool for players when they specifically want to play warzone for a much more efficient LFG search experience.

Recruiting is any sort of call for people to join you, no matter how inclusive the call is. The fact is this thread is not the appropriate place to advertise your club. Please keep any further discussion in this thread on the topic of the upcoming Warlords 12-man fireteam playlist.

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> > It’s not a spartan company… It’s a clubs for xbox live group that anyone can join for a more focused LFG pool.
>
> Regardless, this thread is not for recruiting.
>
> Back on topic please :slight_smile:

Calling it recruiting is comparable to calling ske7ch’s original post recruiting for the official halo club. I’m just trying to help players have an easier time finding a team to play with.

I’m legit just trying to help, no need to give me a hard time about it :slightly_frowning_face:

Why is this playlist just a test though? Is there any chance of it not staying around?

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> Back on topic please :slight_smile:

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> Please keep any further discussion in this thread on the topic of the upcoming Warlords 12-man fireteam playlist.

Do you two know anything about what I posted at the bottom of page 4? About teams doing things to bypass the 6man team limit and getting themselves Full 12 player Fireteam party? Has this been address by 343i anywhere yet? If not, could you bring it to their attention?

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> > Back on topic please :slight_smile:
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> > Please keep any further discussion in this thread on the topic of the upcoming Warlords 12-man fireteam playlist.
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> Do you two know anything about what I posted at the bottom of page 4? About teams doing things to bypass the 6man team limit and getting themselves Full 12 player Fireteam party? Has this been address by 343i anywhere yet? If not, cause you bring it to their attention?

I read the post but unless there’s some explanation as to how it’s being done, it’s going to take a while for it to get patched I would imagine.

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> > > Back on topic please :slight_smile:
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> > > Please keep any further discussion in this thread on the topic of the upcoming Warlords 12-man fireteam playlist.
> >
> > Do you two know anything about what I posted at the bottom of page 4? About teams doing things to bypass the 6man team limit and getting themselves Full 12 player Fireteam party? Has this been address by 343i anywhere yet? If not, cause you bring it to their attention?
>
> I read the post but unless there’s some explanation as to how it’s being done, it’s going to take a while for it to get patched I would imagine.

I can explain it, but that would get me flag for showing an exploit. I can also link games too, and that would also get me flag… :-\

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> > > > Back on topic please :slight_smile:
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> > > > Please keep any further discussion in this thread on the topic of the upcoming Warlords 12-man fireteam playlist.
> > >
> > > Do you two know anything about what I posted at the bottom of page 4? About teams doing things to bypass the 6man team limit and getting themselves Full 12 player Fireteam party? Has this been address by 343i anywhere yet? If not, cause you bring it to their attention?
> >
> > I read the post but unless there’s some explanation as to how it’s being done, it’s going to take a while for it to get patched I would imagine.
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> I can explain it, but that would get me flag for showing an exploit. I can also link games too, and that would also get me flag… :-\

Send a message to ske7ch on waypoint. Click on his name at the top of this post :slight_smile:

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> > > > Back on topic please :slight_smile:
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> > > > 2533274817408735;93:
> > > > Please keep any further discussion in this thread on the topic of the upcoming Warlords 12-man fireteam playlist.
> > >
> > > Do you two know anything about what I posted at the bottom of page 4? About teams doing things to bypass the 6man team limit and getting themselves Full 12 player Fireteam party? Has this been address by 343i anywhere yet? If not, cause you bring it to their attention?
> >
> > I read the post but unless there’s some explanation as to how it’s being done, it’s going to take a while for it to get patched I would imagine.
>
> I can explain it, but that would get me flag for showing an exploit. I can also link games too, and that would also get me flag… :-\

Or just create a new message and type in the gamertag ske7ch on waypoint or xbox live