Update on Warzone 12-Man Fireteams!

I’m liking this! Lol

This is ridiculous take the 12 man restriction off…343 wants this to fail. That’s why they won’t let you play without it none of the other playlists has a restriction like this. All the other playlists I can go in solo if I want…as I said before 343 can’t seem to get outta their own way I wanna why we can’t have our original warzone with legendary AI and give the noobs who complained their 6 man warzone…oh I know why because no one would play 6 man warzone thanks a lot noobs

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> This is ridiculous take the 12 man restriction off…343 wants this to fail. That’s why they won’t let you play without it none of the other playlists has a restriction like this. All the other playlists I can go in solo if I want…as I said before 343 can’t seem to get outta their own way I wanna why we can’t have our original warzone with legendary AI and give the noobs who complained their 6 man warzone…oh I know why because no one would play 6 man warzone thanks a lot noobs

It’s called regular warzone? This is a separate playlist to keep 12 man teams out of regular warzone so solo players and small groups can play amongst themselves and 12 man teams can play other 12 man teams.

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> This is ridiculous take the 12 man restriction off…343 wants this to fail. That’s why they won’t let you play without it none of the other playlists has a restriction like this. All the other playlists I can go in solo if I want…as I said before 343 can’t seem to get outta their own way I wanna why we can’t have our original warzone with legendary AI and give the noobs who complained their 6 man warzone…oh I know why because no one would play 6 man warzone thanks a lot noobs

Well the go to the warzone that is made for people to go in solo… not one that was set up for teams only to battle each other…

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> > > I hope if this playlist does fail that 343 doesnt just trash the idea. For Halo 6 after launch when population is really large this would work no problem but I can definitely see troubl;e finding games in a playlist like this at this point in time of Halo 5’s life
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> > Well duh this is a special playlist so that people play teams of 12v12 since clans(companies) liked to farm too much before they can now fight against another 12 man trying to do the same
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> Played 10 games against sweaty teams. Won 6, lost 3, we dashboarded on a team who was setting up to farm. The kitty team. As soon as they refused to take the core and set up a spawn trap we were out( refused to play them whenever we saw their logos for the rest of the night, sorry, can’t be a part of that. Not when this playlist might be the last chance 12 player teams ever have) I’m amazed that a few players still desire to farm the playlist, they just can’t be concerned with the little health the community has left, I mean we’re on life support here. There’s really not that many doing so though. Less than 10% according to our stats from the night.
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> Even with the attempted farm. This was the best night of halo I have played in months. Possibly the best night since launch. I suggest anyone here who hasn’t done so to get on a structured team and try out the playlist. It is so much fun. Farming isn’t a real issue in warlords yet. If you’re getting farmed just dashboard and move on to the next game. Warlords is awesome!

Lol the kitty team. I ran across them btb…

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> > This is ridiculous take the 12 man restriction off…343 wants this to fail. That’s why they won’t let you play without it none of the other playlists has a restriction like this. All the other playlists I can go in solo if I want…as I said before 343 can’t seem to get outta their own way I wanna why we can’t have our original warzone with legendary AI and give the noobs who complained their 6 man warzone…oh I know why because no one would play 6 man warzone thanks a lot noobs
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> It’s called regular warzone? This is a separate playlist to keep 12 man teams out of regular warzone so solo players and small groups can play amongst themselves and 12 man teams can play other 12 man teams.

Umm no the original warzone was no limit on who could join a party with the ai on legendary the warlords warzone is stupid having a limit like this is stupid you don’t know what you’re talking about

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> > This is ridiculous take the 12 man restriction off…343 wants this to fail. That’s why they won’t let you play without it none of the other playlists has a restriction like this. All the other playlists I can go in solo if I want…as I said before 343 can’t seem to get outta their own way I wanna why we can’t have our original warzone with legendary AI and give the noobs who complained their 6 man warzone…oh I know why because no one would play 6 man warzone thanks a lot noobs
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> Well the go to the warzone that is made for people to go in solo… not one that was set up for teams only to battle each other…

I want to go with my squad I don’t want to play with 6 random people who don’t want to A)use their mics to communicate or use them to blast music or, B)not even try to win and run around doing absolutely nothing. What don’t you get about that? It was fun before now it’s garbage y didnt they just leave warzone alone and give the solo players their on warzone playlist instead of forcing everyone to play they’re crap. Because most people wouldn’t play the solo version that’s y REMOVE THE RESTRICTIONS 343

Seems like a good way to test your skills with friends, lookin forward too it.

This is a very fun WZ type, I am playing again and I have a full team with communication like I wanted, played a whole bunch this weekend our groups did fairly well, Manick was a nasty competition fight didn’t win on them once, HWM kudos for the back and forth wins they put up a nice fight. Not trying to leave any companies out but not gonna write a book of reviews but all in all it was very fun to come up with new strategies to win, fun to play and awesome having the team back together. I hope it is made permanent.

#MakeHaloGreatAgain

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> From the streams I watched most of the day yesterday, I can say in full confidence that Wasps def need to be moved up to 4, if only for Warlords. Banshee probably should have remained at 6, but Wasps have to be 4.
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> Generally the games went:
> -Team gets level 3
> -Suddenly, 3 ~ 5 wasps are up
> -Enemy team is quick cored shortly after
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> Slight exaggeration sure, but the games often boiled down to whoever got their wasps up first, and it was always very early into the games. I understand the wasp’s purpose: Quick, relatively weak compared to other air vehicles, and fragile. They served that purpose quite well, at first. Now though, the flaws in that original goal are becoming very apparent.
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> I’d say bump the banshee back up to 6, keep the mantis at 5, and move the wasp to 4.

I agree but Wasps are being worked on to be changed already it just hasn’t been applied yet, banshee and mantis will most likely stay the same.

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> > > This is ridiculous take the 12 man restriction off…343 wants this to fail. That’s why they won’t let you play without it none of the other playlists has a restriction like this. All the other playlists I can go in solo if I want…as I said before 343 can’t seem to get outta their own way I wanna why we can’t have our original warzone with legendary AI and give the noobs who complained their 6 man warzone…oh I know why because no one would play 6 man warzone thanks a lot noobs
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> > It’s called regular warzone? This is a separate playlist to keep 12 man teams out of regular warzone so solo players and small groups can play amongst themselves and 12 man teams can play other 12 man teams.
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> Umm no the original warzone was no limit on who could join a party with the ai on legendary the warlords warzone is stupid having a limit like this is stupid you don’t know what you’re talking about

Either your a troll or you legitimately have no idea what your talking about. Nobody else has a problem with warlords requiring 12 people, it was done to reduce farming and according to 343 since the change to regular warzone was made there have been less blowout games so the new system isnt going anywhere.

How am i gonna find 12 people to play it? Barely any of my friends play halo.

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> > > > I hope if this playlist does fail that 343 doesnt just trash the idea. For Halo 6 after launch when population is really large this would work no problem but I can definitely see troubl;e finding games in a playlist like this at this point in time of Halo 5’s life
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> > > Well duh this is a special playlist so that people play teams of 12v12 since clans(companies) liked to farm too much before they can now fight against another 12 man trying to do the same
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> > Played 10 games against sweaty teams. Won 6, lost 3, we dashboarded on a team who was setting up to farm. The kitty team. As soon as they refused to take the core and set up a spawn trap we were out( refused to play them whenever we saw their logos for the rest of the night, sorry, can’t be a part of that. Not when this playlist might be the last chance 12 player teams ever have) I’m amazed that a few players still desire to farm the playlist, they just can’t be concerned with the little health the community has left, I mean we’re on life support here. There’s really not that many doing so though. Less than 10% according to our stats from the night.
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> > Even with the attempted farm. This was the best night of halo I have played in months. Possibly the best night since launch. I suggest anyone here who hasn’t done so to get on a structured team and try out the playlist. It is so much fun. Farming isn’t a real issue in warlords yet. If you’re getting farmed just dashboard and move on to the next game. Warlords is awesome!
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> Lol the kitty team. I ran across them btb…

Probably Maniac. They are no Allegiance or 2pros, but will definitely set you up for a challenge. Farm any of their members at any opportunity and -Yoink!- after every kill.

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> > > > This is ridiculous take the 12 man restriction off…343 wants this to fail. That’s why they won’t let you play without it none of the other playlists has a restriction like this. All the other playlists I can go in solo if I want…as I said before 343 can’t seem to get outta their own way I wanna why we can’t have our original warzone with legendary AI and give the noobs who complained their 6 man warzone…oh I know why because no one would play 6 man warzone thanks a lot noobs
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> > > It’s called regular warzone? This is a separate playlist to keep 12 man teams out of regular warzone so solo players and small groups can play amongst themselves and 12 man teams can play other 12 man teams.
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> > Umm no the original warzone was no limit on who could join a party with the ai on legendary the warlords warzone is stupid having a limit like this is stupid you don’t know what you’re talking about
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> Either your a troll or you legitimately have no idea what your talking about. Nobody else has a problem with warlords requiring 12 people, it was done to reduce farming and according to 343 since the change to regular warzone was made there have been less blowout games so the new system isnt going anywhere.

He literally has no idea what he is talking about… but hey his highest rank is a gold 2 so can’t expect much from him lmao

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> How am i gonna find 12 people to play it? Barely any of my friends play halo.

Then play the 6 man warzone playlist…duh

343, are you serious right now? Yeah, because we all wanna get farmed by full fireteams of twelve for another’s amusement. I’m sorry if this sounds crude but come on, let these clans have their own playlist so they lay off of rogue players and smaller groups.

Am I the only one who’s gotten frustrated at the fact that whenever I spawn a vehicle or capture an armory they forget about, the whole team makes a desperate attempt to stop it? Yeah, I think you’d be throwing your xbox out the window when eight people come after you at once just for having a Req weapon or breaking their spawn-trap. I’d like to have fun and not get spawn killed in my home base every game.

Please, change it back to six and put us on even ground.

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> 343, are you serious right now? Yeah, because we all wanna get farmed by full fireteams of twelve for another’s amusement. I’m sorry if this sounds crude but come on, let these clans have their own playlist so they lay off of rogue players and smaller groups.
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> Am I the only one who’s gotten frustrated at the fact that whenever I spawn a vehicle or capture an armory they forget about, the whole team makes a desperate attempt to stop it? Yeah, I think you’d be throwing your xbox out the window when eight people come after you at once just for having a Req weapon or breaking their spawn-trap. I’d like to have fun and not get spawn killed in my home base every game.
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> Please, change it back to six and put us on even ground.

What makes you think that normal Warzone was changed back to 12 person fireteams?

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> 343, are you serious right now? Yeah, because we all wanna get farmed by full fireteams of twelve for another’s amusement. I’m sorry if this sounds crude but come on, let these clans have their own playlist so they lay off of rogue players and smaller groups.
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> Am I the only one who’s gotten frustrated at the fact that whenever I spawn a vehicle or capture an armory they forget about, the whole team makes a desperate attempt to stop it? Yeah, I think you’d be throwing your xbox out the window when eight people come after you at once just for having a Req weapon or breaking their spawn-trap. I’d like to have fun and not get spawn killed in my home base every game.
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> Please, change it back to six and put us on even ground.

It was never changed from 6 in the first place and by some magic you found a way to play Warlords with out a team of 12 of your own, then you sir are a very powerful wizard and you shouldn’t be wasting your time with Halo, you should be planning for world domination.

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> Hey folks - I wanted to share a quick update on the Warzone Fireteam “test” and plans for a NEW test that will be kicking off next weekend!
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> As you know, late last year the Warzone design team implemented a test changing the max number of players in a WZ Fireteam from 12 to 6. The reasoning for this test was in response to feedback and data showing that the vast majority of WZ players were entering matchmaking either solo or in small Fireteams and facing off against pre-made 12-man squads was resulting in a poor experience. Games of individual/smaller disparate groups matching against seasoned 12-man pre-made Fireteams often resulted in lop-sided victories and in extreme cases, straight up “farming” of these helpless individuals for the duration of a game. So far the test is indeed showing that blow out victories/defeats are less common and feedback from solo/small Fireteam players has been positive.
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> That said, we also recognize that while technically a minority in terms of the overall population, there is still an active and passionate group of Halo 5 Companies that have built a strong community regularly playing in 12-man Fireteam WZ matches. The change noted above negatively impacted that play style and segment of our population so the team has been working on potential ways to satisfy both audiences.
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> While we realize there are some tradeoffs and potential shortcomings that may not make this the ideal permanent solution - namely potentially long wait times depending on the health of the “premade 12-man Fireteam population” - the 343 team still feels it’s worth testing out a new Warzone playlist that specifically caters to large Fireteams.
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> Mark your calendars. Rally your Halo 5 Companies and assemble your Fireteams. Prepare for the “Warlords” playlist coming to Halo 5 Warzone on Friday, Jan. 27 at approx. 2PM PST. This is going to be run as a test and given population constraints will be setup to run for the weekend, similar in fashion to the Mythic WZ Firefight playlist.
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> It’s important to note that you’ll ONLY be able to enter matchmaking in the Warlords playlist if you’re in a 12-man Fireteam. If this sounds cool to you but you don’t have enough friends currently, look into joining a Halo 5 Company and/or check out the official “Halo” club on Xbox One. Within the Halo club you can utilize the “Looking for Group” feature to find 11 more Spartans to join you in Warzone. We’re working on putting together a 343 Fireteam right now and look forward to doing battle next Friday. And if Uny, Grim and I can’t fill out our roster we’ll be in the Halo club looking for 9 more folks to take up arms.
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> Thank you for your patience and understanding as we’ve worked through these issues and we look forward to your help and feedback as we test the Halo 5 “Warlords” Warzone playlist next Friday-Sunday. See you then!

I like it :slight_smile:

Any updates on bringing Warlords back again? Have it as a weekend playlist would be awesome gives players time to plan out stuff and practice up during the week, be ready by the weekend. Well at least I would like it to be a weekend playlist at minimum if not a permanent one. I enjoyed it very much, thanks for the experience 343.

#MakeHaloGreatAgain