UNSC too much of a focus. Bad idea 343.

Ok I know there must be some things missing, not being released, something we don’t know about.

UNSC Vehicles
Warthog
Rocket Hog
Gauss Hog
Mangoose
Scorpion
Falcon (not confirmed 100% but seen)
Pelican
Mantis
Mammoth

Did I miss any?

Covenant Vehicles
Ghost
Banshee
Wraith
Phantom
Turret

Does anyone else notice what’s wrong?

In Halo:CE there was a pretty nice mix of both. Low counts. Now it’s like 343 said

"-Yoink- the Covenant, They don’t need more vehicles LOL. Revenant? No, Prowler? No. Spectre? No. Chopper? No.

Please, What’s up with this. This is awful for machinma, BTB and such. It’s like 343 wants you to never even touch anything Storm/Covenant related.

I hope they have 2 or so new Covenant/Alien vehicles they have not shown yet.

By the way Halo 1/2/3 and Reach had perfect UNSC: Covenant vehicle ratios

This is just sad.

I think that is the price we have to pay for “canon multiplayer” (which I always thought was a bad idea).

The covenant get no love in halo 4, you can’t even play as elites (which we have been doing since Halo 2).

There are also a ton of forerunner weapons but very few covenant ones.

Halo 4 has shifted from the covenant to forunner. In this game, the covenant are just a side enemy to be sprinkled in. Your main threats are the Prometheans. That is probably why there is a lack of love for the covenant.

That being said . . . where are some forunner vehicles?

> I think that is the price we have to pay for “canon multiplayer” (which I always thought was a bad idea).
>
> The covenant get no love in halo 4, you can’t even play as elites (which we have been doing since Halo 2).
>
> There are also a ton of forerunner weapons but very few covenant ones.

tbh with you im happy the covies didnt get any new weapons. they have alot as it is. the forerunners obviously are gonna get loads of new weapons as they are the new focus in the game. in terms of vehicles though i agree. the covies need more vehicles. in MP all they have is the banshee ghost and wraith. they defineltly need the spectre/revenant to return. and if the mammoth isnt in MP, i would assume it doesnt count as the 2nd new vehicle. and if that is the case, than the other new vehicle better be covie

You realize that not everything has been unveiled yet right? We could still very well see a number of the vehicles you mentioned.

> There are also a ton of forerunner weapons but very few covenant ones.

1.Scatter Shot
2.Bolt Shot
3.Incin Cannon
4.Binary Rifle
5.Suppressor
6.Light Rifle

Carbine
Storm Rifle
Fuel Rod
Plasma Pistol
Energy Sword
Beam Rifle
Concussion Rifle
Gravity Hammer

> > There are also a ton of forerunner weapons but very few covenant ones.
>
> 1.Scatter Shot
> 2.Bolt Shot
> 3.Incin Cannon
> 4.Binary Rifle
> 5.Suppressor
> 6.Light Rifle
>
> Carbine
> Storm Rifle
> Fuel Rod
> Plasma Pistol
> Energy Sword
> Beam Rifle
> Concussion Rifle
> Gravity Hammer

I swore there were a lot more Forerunner weapons. Oh well, we will have to wait and see when Halo 4 comes out.

Just so you know. The Ratio of each games vehicles
(Human:Covenant) (Driveable and Non Drivable, No turrets)
Halo:CE 3 : 4

Halo 2. 4 : 5

Halo 3. 6 : 6

Halo Reach: 7 : 6

Halo 4 (Known) 9 : 4 (didn’t count the turret)

> > There are also a ton of forerunner weapons but very few covenant ones.
>
> 1.Scatter Shot
> 2.Bolt Shot
> 3.Incin Cannon
> 4.Binary Rifle
> 5.Suppressor
> 6.Light Rifle
>
> Carbine
> Storm Rifle
> Fuel Rod
> Plasma Pistol
> Energy Sword
> Beam Rifle
> Concussion Rifle
> Gravity Hammer

forgot the needler and plasma cannon

> > > There are also a ton of forerunner weapons but very few covenant ones.
> >
> > 1.Scatter Shot
> > 2.Bolt Shot
> > 3.Incin Cannon
> > 4.Binary Rifle
> > 5.Suppressor
> > 6.Light Rifle
> >
> > Carbine
> > Storm Rifle
> > Fuel Rod
> > Plasma Pistol
> > Energy Sword
> > Beam Rifle
> > Concussion Rifle
> > Gravity Hammer
>
> I swore there were a lot more Forerunner weapons. Oh well, we will have to wait and see when Halo 4 comes out.

Nope, there are 6 weapons in the entire Promethean arsennal.

I believe they said that a couple other vehicles will be returning. besides the ones they confirmed.

Lets hope. The Ratio has never been totally uneven. If it remains like this it will just be really ugly.

In the other games there was a reason to go into covie vehicles. Now it just seems like there wont be.

Seems like a good idea to me. No one votes for Elite Slayer anyways.

> > > There are also a ton of forerunner weapons but very few covenant ones.
> >
> > 1.Scatter Shot
> > 2.Bolt Shot
> > 3.Incin Cannon
> > 4.Binary Rifle
> > 5.Suppressor
> > 6.Light Rifle
> >
> > Carbine
> > Storm Rifle
> > Fuel Rod
> > Plasma Pistol
> > Energy Sword
> > Beam Rifle
> > Concussion Rifle
> > Gravity Hammer
>
> forgot the needler and plasma cannon

So that’s ten Covie weapons and 6 Promethean. That’s a good ratio…

Shouldn’t the prometheans have some vehicles? Like the weapons they would build around the driver so that they would work with both knights and marines. I feel like that was a big missed opportunity.

With that being said, you never know, they might release a couple promethean vehicles. I could see them making a flying ship like a banshee or hornet and a couple smaller ghost-like vehicles for the prometheans.

Also, I really hope you meant hornet when you said falcon. I miss the hornet.

I don’t see the problem here, although I wish the Revenant was back.

I hate how the various Covenant species, with whom humanity has been fighting a gigantic war for over 25 years, have been shoved off to the side as if they’re of no consequence.

> Shouldn’t the prometheans have some vehicles? Like the weapons they would build around the driver so that they would work with both knights and marines. I feel like that was a big missed opportunity.
>
> With that being said, you never know, they might release a couple promethean vehicles. I could see them making a flying ship like a banshee or hornet and a couple smaller ghost-like vehicles for the prometheans.
>
> Also, I really hope you meant hornet when you said falcon. I miss the hornet.

Technically, Promethians (or Forerunners in general) wouldn’t need vehicles because of their level Slipspace tech. They could just simply teleport to where they want to go. That said, if there were Forerunner vehicles, that would be -Yoinking- cool to use

As for the Covenant, I understand why they’re being pushed aside, The Covenant doesn’t technically extst in H4’s timeframe (circa 2557) because the Hierarchs are dead, the San 'Shyuum (aka Prophets) are most likley extinct, the Brutes are infighting, the Huragok (aka Enginers), who did all of the Covenant’s tech work, are with the UNSC now, which is how the Infinity got most of it’s unique upgrades (such as communication in Slipspace). So who pulls Covie IT duty now? No one, and the Covenant races have no idea how their own technology works, because the Huragock did that for them, so they don’t know how to maintain them, so there a (somewhat)canon reason

We know that the only new Covenant thing in this game is the Storm rifle (which is basically a Plasma rifle/Repeater combined).
Not a single covenant map or vehicle (watch the 2nd new vehicle be either the Mammoth or another UNSC vehicle) and no other returning vehicles that we know of (they would have showed us at least one of the returning vehicles somewhere).

> Shouldn’t the prometheans have some vehicles? Like the weapons they would build around the driver so that they would work with both knights and marines. I feel like that was a big missed opportunity.
>
> With that being said, you never know, they might release a couple promethean vehicles. I could see them making a flying ship like a banshee or hornet and a couple smaller ghost-like vehicles for the prometheans.
>
> Also, I really hope you meant hornet when you said falcon. I miss the hornet.

The Prometheans don’t need vehicles. They teleport around the world using their teleportation grid. So…no. It would not make sense to have Promethean vehicles.