UNSC owns energy weapons

Since Halo is in the future, why does the UNSC has an lack of energy weapons?

The only hand held UNSC energy weapons in Halo is the Railgun and the Spartan laser, they should be more laser weaponry for the UNSC, like a Laser rifle, Laser pistol or maybe a Gauss sniper.

I love the Halo series and I’m glad the franchise is going to continue.

From Ross d g 1996

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Well I mean we had guns 400 years ago so why don’t we have them now either? Technology adavances in areas in needs to, no war means little advancement in weapons, notice how things like the nuke machine gun and tank came to be because of war. Also notice how the unsc is now much more advance in terms of weapons because they need to advance that tec.

> Well I mean we had guns 400 years ago so why don’t we have them now either? Technology adavances in areas in needs to, no war means little advancement in weapons, notice how things like the nuke machine gun and tank came to be because of war. Also notice how the unsc is now much more advance in terms of weapons because they need to advance that tec.

The thing is, Halo is known for its conflicts even before the games, and yet the weaponry is on even terms with modern day tech, albeit the Spartan Laser and Railgun.
I mean, look how weapons have evolved in the past 100 years. Now imagine 5 times as long. I would think there would be some major breakthroughs.

But I believe Bungie kept projectile based weapons to still keep a ‘realistic’ and ‘relative’ feel than shooting lasers like Star Wars.

Just my thoughts.

Yea, I see what you’re saying.

> Since Halo is in the future, why does the UNSC has an lack of energy weapons?
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> The only hand held UNSC energy weapons in Halo is the Railgun and the Spartan laser, they should be more laser weaponry for the UNSC, like a Laser rifle, Laser pistol or maybe a Gauss sniper.
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> I love the Halo series and I’m glad the franchise is going to continue.
>
> From Ross d g 1996
>
> Please reply if you want

Just throwing this in here, but Gauss and Rail guns aren’t “energy weapons”.

Aren’t you mean? They are kinetic weapons.

They have covenant weaponry and Promethean weaponry though…

In all honesty, chances are energy weapons were dismissed as inneffective, because just look at the spartan laser, that thing is ridiculously difficult to properly use.

Also, it is entirely possible that they simply don’t have the resources at present. they are, what, four years our of a twenty-five year war that ended with only one major military complex still HABITABLE? take a look at some of the stuff they fielded in halo wars: Pretty ridiculously better than what they fielded in the FPS games.

Sides, even the covenant and forerunners don’t technically use LASERS, covenant uses plasma and forerunners use hard light, so the splazer is impressive.

What? The unsc doesn’t only have earth you know? They have other planets as well…

Covenant and forerunners use a lot of energy weaponry… You’re talking as if they weren’t energy weapons.

> Aren’t you mean? They are kinetic weapons.

Whoops, hahaha, typo on my part. Yeah they AREN’T energy weapons.

Guass technology like the railgun or MAC cannons still fire a projectile in a traditional sense.

Anyways, it is likely that the UNSC and humanity as a whole did not need to develop such weapons. Technology advances, but people change a whole lot slower. There are few advantages to ‘energy’ weapons that outwiegh the massive energy requirements. Sure a laser can be deadly, but bullets and explosives can do the same things at a fraction of the cost.

Because if 343 suddenly changed all the guns, people would be complaining that they changed too much. These weapons cant be more powerful, because covenant and promethean weapons aren’t any better than the UNSC equivs (the more powerful forerunner ones have a bunch of drawbacks). So it’d just seems like 343 is changing more things for the sake of change.

> Guass technology like the railgun or MAC cannons still fire a projectile in a traditional sense.
>
> Anyways, it is likely that the UNSC and humanity as a whole did not need to develop such weapons. Technology advances, but people change a whole lot slower. There are few advantages to ‘energy’ weapons that outwiegh the massive energy requirements. Sure a laser can be deadly, but bullets and explosives can do the same things at a fraction of the cost.

This as well. Humanity’s loses seem to be largely based around our lack of shields, not exactly potency of weaponry.

There’s also the factor that the munitions companies already have production lines and the like, not to mention 100’s of years of kinetic weapons knowledge (even if they arent technically much diff than today’s guns). Its little wonder energy weapons remain as gimmicky prototypes.

Its like giving up everything we know about normal wheels to invent a laser wheel, just because it seems more advanced.

here are some energy weapons:
-Flamethrower
-MAC cannon
-Onager (MAC cannon)
-Shiva Nuke
-Archer Missile
-Gauss cannon
-Energy Shields (can be used as a minor weapon)

:T

I’m sure that ONI is figuring out how to make plasma weapons.

> here are some energy weapons:
> -Flamethrower
> -MAC cannon
> -Onager (MAC cannon)
> -Shiva Nuke
> -Archer Missile
> -Gauss cannon
> -Energy Shields (can be used as a minor weapon)
>
>
> :T

None of these are energy weapons, cept for the shield sorta.

Flamethrower - not direct energy weapon (it shoots flaming liquid)
MAC - Projectile
Onager - Same as above
Shiva Nuke - Its a mixed thermal/kinetic weapon
Archer Missile - Same as above
Gauss Cannon - Same as MAC
Energy Shields - This isn’t even a weapon lol, I think you meant the sword.

The Spartan Laser carries five shots. Yes, I am aware that I’m getting that number from Halo gameplay, but as the Spartan Laser’s ammo is represented by a battery and not a maximum number of spare magazines (ex. BR limiting the player to 3 spare mags for gameplay balance) I have reason to believe that it holds true for canon as well. Now back on topic, with the charge time and the low battery capacity, do you think it would be a viable infantry weapon? Imagine carrying this big-yoink laser cannon into combat and having to discard it after using it five times.

The UNSC has energy weapon technology, they just haven’t figured out how to make it efficient enough for widespread usage.

Actually the Spartan Laser likely has a larger energy cell, as Dutch in ODST carries one for most of the game. Also, given how much Spartan Laser’s supposedly cost, only having 5 shots would make them very impractical from funding point of view. Sure a laser can blow up just about any vehicle in 1 shot, but so can 1-2 shots from a rocket launcher that costs a miniscule fraction of the cost.

Kind of like how the sniper rifle likely has more than 4 bullets in a clip that size.

I know we’re taliking from a cannon point of veiw but Bungie’s excuss was always that bullets are more fun and make halo unique.

Sigh I miss the Flamethrower. I can honestly see the UNSC taking a whole “if it aint broke dont fix it” mentality when it comes to projectile weapons. Although it does seem like they should have adopted the same Mass Effect style of weaponry considering their knowledge of kinetics. Shaving off pieces of metal and accelerating it to super sonic speeds just seems like a no brainer.

The idea of “if there is no conflict there is no need to develop weapons” is just asinine. Governments will always be doing research into military technology because there is always going to be a conflict at some point. Given the fact that humanity was speading into the galaxy, the UEG would have invested a fair amount into weapons technologies since the odds would be pretty high of other sentient alien life existing. Governments plan ahead you know, they dont just wait for the -Yoink- to hit the fan and then start making preparations.

> The idea of “if there is no conflict there is no need to develop weapons” is just asinine. Governments will always be doing research into military technology because there is always going to be a conflict at some point. Given the fact that humanity was speading into the galaxy, the UEG would have invested a fair amount into weapons technologies since the odds would be pretty high of other sentient alien life existing. Governments plan ahead you know, they dont just wait for the Yoink! to hit the fan and then start making preparations.

It seems like accepting the whole “There was no conflict, so we never advanced” thing is Halo’s price of admission. In Mass Effect, you gotta accept that there is an alien race of blue women that look remarkably like Humans. In Star Wars, you gotta believe that bacteria in your blood gives you super powers. And in Halo, you have to believe that the UEG lacks any foresight.

Honestly, I’m sure Bungie just set the Halo universe in 2552 because they wanted to make a “7” reference, and not because it was a plausible or intended prediction of technology in the 26th century. Thing is, I could believe that we have FTL drives and the ability to do limited terraforming and colonization on distant planets in the 26th century, it’s JUST the weapon technology that ends up breaking the plausibility of the Universe. At least, as far as the human side of Halo is concerned.