So as I’m sure many of you are aware of the US Navy recently did away with its rating system (where individuals are referred to by job title and not by rank as in the other services).
looking at the UNSCN rank system it seems that they follow the same pattern as the current USN, with Master Chief being referred to by his rank rather than rate (which would be Special Warfare Operator if it follows the current pattern). Likewise when master at arms and corpsman are mentioned it seems like it is use as a job descriptor rather than as a rate to be addressed by.
It’s interesting how fiction mirrors reality in this case.
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> It’s interesting how fiction mirrors reality in this case.
If it didn’t, someone would complain.
Wait, when did this happen?!
Also the Corpsman you mention is a Marine (at least assuming you mean the corpsman helping Chief to his feet in Halo 3s opening)…
Not sure we see many Navy personnel in the series, aside from bridge crew.
As for Chief, well…even if they hadn’t changed it, he’s a Spartan. What else are you supposed to call him BUT his rank?
> Wait, when did this happen?!
> Also the Corpsman you mention is a Marine (at least assuming you mean the corpsman helping Chief to his feet in Halo 3s opening)…
> Not sure we see many Navy personnel in the series, aside from bridge crew.
> As for Chief, well…even if they hadn’t changed it, he’s a Spartan. What else are you supposed to call him BUT his rank?
I’m actually thinking more in the books when they address individuals rather than the games. Is it ever confirmed that he’s a marine (by name or rank?).
they way it used to be in the navy was that your job and rank (rate) were almagated. So it wouldn’t be Petty Officer 2nd Class, it’d be Spcial Warfare Officer 2nd Class for all the jobs. Now they’re just addressed as rank, but that’s a very new development.
> Wait, when did this happen?!
> Also the Corpsman you mention is a Marine (at least assuming you mean the corpsman helping Chief to his feet in Halo 3s opening)…
> Not sure we see many Navy personnel in the series, aside from bridge crew.
> As for Chief, well…even if they hadn’t changed it, he’s a Spartan. What else are you supposed to call him BUT his rank?
Agree
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> > Wait, when did this happen?!
> > Also the Corpsman you mention is a Marine (at least assuming you mean the corpsman helping Chief to his feet in Halo 3s opening)…
> > Not sure we see many Navy personnel in the series, aside from bridge crew.
> > As for Chief, well…even if they hadn’t changed it, he’s a Spartan. What else are you supposed to call him BUT his rank?
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> I’m actually thinking more in the books when they address individuals rather than the games. Is it ever confirmed that he’s a marine (by name or rank?).
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> they way it used to be in the navy was that your job and rank (rate) were almagated. So it wouldn’t be Petty Officer 2nd Class, it’d be Spcial Warfare Officer 2nd Class for all the jobs. Now they’re just addressed as rank, but that’s a very new development.
Well the one in Halo 3s opening is obviously a Marine (hes with Johnson, a bunch of other Marines, and is wearing Marine armor), and I think there’s…one other corpsmen mentioned in the books? (Healy in Contact Harvest, also most definantly a Marine). Oh and I guess the medic from Red Horse in The Mona Lisa…but yeah, again, a Marine.
Oh…
The problem is is that in Halo, everyone’s either bridge crew (Navy) Marine (everyone wearing armor) or Air Force (everyone flying something) The UNSC Army exists, but you never really know when you see them.
I’d like to know how the Spartan IVs fit into the command structure, because they’re essentially communist other than an implied leadership figure (ex: Palmer is the commander of all S-IVs on Infinity, despite being referred to as “Spartan” in the same way the rest are). Does that mean they’re like the Inquisition from Warhammer 40K where they lead by title/rate rather than by rank? How much authority would a S-IV be able to give/submit to in the field?
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> > > Wait, when did this happen?!
> > > Also the Corpsman you mention is a Marine (at least assuming you mean the corpsman helping Chief to his feet in Halo 3s opening)…
> > > Not sure we see many Navy personnel in the series, aside from bridge crew.
> > > As for Chief, well…even if they hadn’t changed it, he’s a Spartan. What else are you supposed to call him BUT his rank?
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> > I’m actually thinking more in the books when they address individuals rather than the games. Is it ever confirmed that he’s a marine (by name or rank?).
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> > they way it used to be in the navy was that your job and rank (rate) were almagated. So it wouldn’t be Petty Officer 2nd Class, it’d be Spcial Warfare Officer 2nd Class for all the jobs. Now they’re just addressed as rank, but that’s a very new development.
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> Well the one in Halo 3s opening is obviously a Marine (hes with Johnson, a bunch of other Marines, and is wearing Marine armor), and I think there’s…one other corpsmen mentioned in the books? (Healy in Contact Harvest, also most definantly a Marine). Oh and I guess the medic from Red Horse in The Mona Lisa…but yeah, again, a Marine.
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> Oh…
I think it was heart of mioldith (maybe that was master at arms though)
reason why I’m not sure it’s a marine is because If the ranks not explicitly stated its highly possible that it’s navy. Halo typically follows the US system, and corpsman are always provided by the navy, since the marines have no medical personnel. They are fully combat trained and even wear marine uniforms.
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> The problem is is that in Halo, everyone’s either bridge crew (Navy) Marine (everyone wearing armor) or Air Force (everyone flying something) The UNSC Army exists, but you never really know when you see them.
Yeah, same even for navy and Air Force security. If you look at reality all branches have support forces, and even ground combat forces - and if you don’t know the different camo patterns you can’t tell the difference (and since some USAF Secuirty Forces units wear army camo, you really can’t tell the difference in a deployed environment).
There are a lot more nuances
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> I’d like to know how the Spartan IVs fit into the command structure, because they’re essentially communist other than an implied leadership figure (ex: Palmer is the commander of all S-IVs on Infinity, despite being referred to as “Spartan” in the same way the rest are). Does that mean they’re like the Inquisition from Warhammer 40K where they lead by title/rate rather than by rank? How much authority would a S-IV be able to give/submit to in the field?
Since they’re not navy it doesn’t apply to this system
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> > I’d like to know how the Spartan IVs fit into the command structure, because they’re essentially communist other than an implied leadership figure (ex: Palmer is the commander of all S-IVs on Infinity, despite being referred to as “Spartan” in the same way the rest are). Does that mean they’re like the Inquisition from Warhammer 40K where they lead by title/rate rather than by rank? How much authority would a S-IV be able to give/submit to in the field?
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> Since they’re not navy it doesn’t apply to this system
That’s true within the Spartan branch (so I’ll retract that part of the question), but I still think the rest is relevant because they’re part of the joint force, so it’s important to know where ones authority threshold is in that force for it to operate effectively.