What happened to the units from the first, i can tell the scorpion has had a major debuff, and with out SGT. Forg i dont see Grizzly’s, now this isn’t all, there are several new units, even though i don’t know how thats possible for spirit of fire being lost in space fore 28 years lol maybe it gets explained in campaign.
I have no complaints about the new units, i like them we needed more, i dont have complaints with elites taking over the jackel sniper position but we can still use them even if they arent in the campaign, give them plasma pistols let them do what they do in all other games, ruin your dam warthog haha, let them shoot charged shots stunning vehicles the more jackel shots the longer your stunned this would majorly effect game play and keep some games from being only vehicle based, but enough about them, no one cares about jackeks they are -Yoinks!-.
My complaint is what the heck happened to my elephant, this isnt a strong unit or one that you can make a full army of and win any type of a fight, yes they spawn marines which get killed by like everything even ODST, but his particular play style is a double edged sword and makes for so many strategicle battles, holding off choke point while your team mates lead a full scale attack, dropping odst better still be in this game yes they were annoying at mosy but easily dispatched why take theese two things out seriously why. You still have cyclops units heck they have been seriously buffed and yeah gremils are gone but we still have suicide grunts and brutes, cept now they have hammers.
Why take out the three and only three features Cutter had to make him a great leader, mac shot, Elephant and the ability to Spam in as many ODST as you can afford, even though nine outa ten times it leads to your demise as a small group of tanks can best you. I played the last betta i saw this had been taken away, i hope that leader level system and drop skills is not in standard or there will be problems for many of us.
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> 1. it was already explained that Isabel brought knowledge and blueprints since she is a logistics AI.
> 2. Grizzly’s are used in the campaign confirmed and forge is a early access leader.
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> 3. We’re do you get the idea ODST are not in the game they were in the first beta and the current one.
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> 4. Mac is used by Isabel now which makes alot of sense. Because in the lore AI take care of MAC Calculations 99.9℅ of the time.
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> 5. Elephants are MIA rn Same with Hawks, cryo bomb and gremlins all of Anders stuff has been replaced with forunner stuff. Also the disruption bomb seems to be missing.
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> 6. Idk what you mean by leader level system or drop skills.
- I havent seen or read every little thing abd my post cleary states maybe its explained in the campaign.
- If Grizzly’s are in the game great, and forge being an early acces charecter, i thank you for this info i really do thats amazing.
3.i never said anything about ODST not being in the game, im going off the beta this one and the last, and im stating from the last beta where they had some weird level uo thing where you choose skils like if you want to drop a healing field or a tank as you leader skill. Based on that im assuming they re did the leader skills, how you use mac, disruption bomb and dropping in 10 ODST units whenever you want, it seemed limited
- I understand yhe mac can or should be used by an AI, in H2 they had cortana use it, im just going off what made cutter great, ODST 3 diderent ways to bring them into battle especially whith them being so expendable compared to Grizzly’s and Hawk’s, the elephant veing gone which makes me sad, and giving the mac to isabel, there is no reason cutter cant use it, especially with it being his ship and i believe even an AI needs permission from the captain to fire a mac shot, i could be wrong.
- Anders stuff being replaced is good and bad, Hawk’s werent really that impressive easily dealt with but added to all she brings, faster reasearching and half cost yeah she can be a fierce oponent, but hey i can go either way.
- If you haven’t played the first betta i cant explain the sh***y system they used, with the leader skills and droping in abilities like heal and leveled up units, im sorry for that, but it was there and it sucked, nor do i have any idea if its hoing to be in standard or not i only hope it isnt.
This is fun i hope you’re having an awesome day to my friend.
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> > 2533274968042384;2:
> > 1. it was already explained that Isabel brought knowledge and blueprints since she is a logistics AI.
> > 2. Grizzly’s are used in the campaign confirmed and forge is a early access leader.
> >
> > 3. We’re do you get the idea ODST are not in the game they were in the first beta and the current one.
> >
> > 4. Mac is used by Isabel now which makes alot of sense. Because in the lore AI take care of MAC Calculations 99.9℅ of the time.
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> > 5. Elephants are MIA rn Same with Hawks, cryo bomb and gremlins all of Anders stuff has been replaced with forunner stuff. Also the disruption bomb seems to be missing.
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> > 6. Idk what you mean by leader level system or drop skills.
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> 1. I havent seen or read every little thing abd my post cleary states maybe its explained in the campaign.
> 2. If Grizzly’s are in the game great, and forge being an early acces charecter, i thank you for this info i really do thats amazing.
> 3.i never said anything about ODST not being in the game, im going off the beta this one and the last, and im stating from the last beta where they had some weird level uo thing where you choose skils like if you want to drop a healing field or a tank as you leader skill. Based on that im assuming they re did the leader skills, how you use mac, disruption bomb and dropping in 10 ODST units whenever you want, it seemed limited
> 4. I understand yhe mac can or should be used by an AI, in H2 they had cortana use it, im just going off what made cutter great, ODST 3 diderent ways to bring them into battle especially whith them being so expendable compared to Grizzly’s and Hawk’s, the elephant veing gone which makes me sad, and giving the mac to isabel, there is no reason cutter cant use it, especially with it being his ship and i believe even an AI needs permission from the captain to fire a mac shot, i could be wrong.
> 5. Anders stuff being replaced is good and bad, Hawk’s werent really that impressive easily dealt with but added to all she brings, faster reasearching and half cost yeah she can be a fierce oponent, but hey i can go either way.
> 6. If you haven’t played the first betta i cant explain the sh***y system they used, with the leader skills and droping in abilities like heal and leveled up units, im sorry for that, but it was there and it sucked, nor do i have any idea if its hoing to be in standard or not i only hope it isnt.
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> This is fun i hope you’re having an awesome day to my friend.
I did play the first beta I just didn’t understand what you were talking about. I personally like the system were you unlock the abilities you prefer and each leader has many more then they previously did adding in more variety to people’s play styles.
From the latest standard gameplay I seen it is still in the game but they removed the tech tree and moved it into the classic circle menu.
Most people never used abilities in the early game anyway.
They removed the Skill tree and replaced it with a circle menu that operates in a similar way to a skill tree. Basically you can unlock abilities by purchasing the abilities adjacent to them for leader points. The best abilities require about 4 or 5 leader points to get to. You can get leader points from building stuff, killing enemies, etc.
As for the units, you should do more research on a game before you declare “What the heck happened”, it just shows you lack the ability to do basic research.
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> > 2533274968042384;2:
> > 1. it was already explained that Isabel brought knowledge and blueprints since she is a logistics AI.
> > 2. Grizzly’s are used in the campaign confirmed and forge is a early access leader.
> >
> > 3. We’re do you get the idea ODST are not in the game they were in the first beta and the current one.
> >
> > 4. Mac is used by Isabel now which makes alot of sense. Because in the lore AI take care of MAC Calculations 99.9℅ of the time.
> >
> > 5. Elephants are MIA rn Same with Hawks, cryo bomb and gremlins all of Anders stuff has been replaced with forunner stuff. Also the disruption bomb seems to be missing.
> >
> > 6. Idk what you mean by leader level system or drop skills.
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> 1. I havent seen or read every little thing abd my post cleary states maybe its explained in the campaign.
> 2. If Grizzly’s are in the game great, and forge being an early acces charecter, i thank you for this info i really do thats amazing.
> 3.i never said anything about ODST not being in the game, im going off the beta this one and the last, and im stating from the last beta where they had some weird level uo thing where you choose skils like if you want to drop a healing field or a tank as you leader skill. Based on that im assuming they re did the leader skills, how you use mac, disruption bomb and dropping in 10 ODST units whenever you want, it seemed limited
> 4. I understand yhe mac can or should be used by an AI, in H2 they had cortana use it, im just going off what made cutter great, ODST 3 diderent ways to bring them into battle especially whith them being so expendable compared to Grizzly’s and Hawk’s, the elephant veing gone which makes me sad, and giving the mac to isabel, there is no reason cutter cant use it, especially with it being his ship and i believe even an AI needs permission from the captain to fire a mac shot, i could be wrong.
> 5. Anders stuff being replaced is good and bad, Hawk’s werent really that impressive easily dealt with but added to all she brings, faster reasearching and half cost yeah she can be a fierce oponent, but hey i can go either way.
> 6. If you haven’t played the first betta i cant explain the sh***y system they used, with the leader skills and droping in abilities like heal and leveled up units, im sorry for that, but it was there and it sucked, nor do i have any idea if its hoing to be in standard or not i only hope it isnt.
>
> This is fun i hope you’re having an awesome day to my friend.
Wait, Whats so bad about the leader ability system? Come on man I kinda liked that! And besides, Eradication was strange for me so I sticked with the buffs man, those buffs were awesome!
So far though you’ve said nothing other than the fact that they suck :< What do you hate about them?