In 3v3 , a team that is in a party , and coordinate a rush together will never be beat . If you play solo (not in a party ) in 3v3 you cannot coordinate a rush withough you allies, so will lose everytime to party players . It is getting so frustrating losing to this massive flaw in the match making, that I have to turn it off after about 3 or 4 matches . A good game ruined by thoughtless game makers . Why not the same system as in halo wars 1 ( what a magnificent game that was ) . Separate lobbies for party and non party players . Forget that cpu mixing or not . Who cares if you play with cpu users. Please sort this out I beg you . I don’t want to give up on this game yet , but we need a level playing field . I donthink mind losing to skill , but not just cos I ain’t in a party . Very unhappy .
Splitting the player base probably wouldn’t fix the problem either. You’d just have greater skill disparity between teams.
As much as I hate to say this the best solution would be to find someone to party up with.
Unless your fighting 3 deci who are going vortex grunt rush, there is not a rush you can beat. Party up like BreezyStarfish1 mentioned and practice a bit more. Right now, rushing is actually hard to do with UNSC turrets being OP and banished having scouts and suis.
I’m sorry but if you are allowed to play 3v3 and not be in a party , that option should be a viable one , not a flawed option , like it is now . Create a level playing field , or dont create one at all , because it’s just pure frustration for those who are at a disadvantage. It’s easy for party players to say it don’t matter , because you lot are just smashing through non party players with ease . Falsely satisfying I imagine . If this problem doesn’t get sorted soon and people begin to realise why those coordinated rushes are beating them everytime, they’re just gonna stop playing , like I am going to do . Then you won’t have many people to play with . Wake up Halo and sort your dumb game out . Please.
Ive played plenty of 3v3’s alone even against full teams and won. Halo Wars 2 doesnt have a 3v3 solo playlist like the original Halo Wars had, you just gotta practice and team up with someone.
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> I’m sorry but if you are allowed to play 3v3 and not be in a party , that option should be a viable one , not a flawed option , like it is now . Create a level playing field , or dont create one at all , because it’s just pure frustration for those who are at a disadvantage. It’s easy for party players to say it don’t matter , because you lot are just smashing through non party players with ease . Falsely satisfying I imagine . If this problem doesn’t get sorted soon and people begin to realise why those coordinated rushes are beating them everytime, they’re just gonna stop playing , like I am going to do . Then you won’t have many people to play with . Wake up Halo and sort your dumb game out . Please.
You’re complaining about coordinated teams in… a team playlist…
The same holds true in Halo 5. If you play Team Arena solo you will be continually crushed by coordinated teams past a certain point, that’s kinda the whole idea. Team play is about communication, and those that achieve the highest ranks should be those that not only have good individual skill, but good communication as well.
Solutions:
Play 1v1 - Boom, there’s your playlist that gives you the ability to rank up squarely on your own individual skill.
Find teammates - It’s super easy. Go to Xbox Looking For Group. Make a post “Looking for 1 or 2 teammates of skill level X.” Lots of good players use looking for group. Alternitively just play like normal, and if you win a match where you worked well with your teammates, send them a message saying “GG, want to team up?” Met a majority of people I play with this way.
What won’t fix the problem is having a solo que only playlist. It would literally be luck based. There is a skilled team playlist player that makes similar posts to your own, he almost exclusvely solo-ques and, and even though the vast majority of his matches are against other solo-que teams his W/L is literally 50%. It is a coin flip of who gets the better team and not much you can do about it. Doesn’t sound like a very skill based or rewarding playlist to me.
But please, complain more about teams in a team playlist. May as well complain about there being chocolate chips in a chocolate chip cookie, or apples being in apple pie.
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> > I’m sorry but if you are allowed to play 3v3 and not be in a party , that option should be a viable one , not a flawed option , like it is now . Create a level playing field , or dont create one at all , because it’s just pure frustration for those who are at a disadvantage. It’s easy for party players to say it don’t matter , because you lot are just smashing through non party players with ease . Falsely satisfying I imagine . If this problem doesn’t get sorted soon and people begin to realise why those coordinated rushes are beating them everytime, they’re just gonna stop playing , like I am going to do . Then you won’t have many people to play with . Wake up Halo and sort your dumb game out . Please.
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> You’re complaining about coordinated teams in… a team playlist…
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> The same holds true in Halo 5. If you play Team Arena solo you will be continually crushed by coordinated teams past a certain point, that’s kinda the whole idea. Team play is about communication, and those that achieve the highest ranks should be those that not only have good individual skill, but good communication as well.
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> Solutions:
> Play 1v1 - Boom, there’s your playlist that gives you the ability to rank up squarely on your own individual skill.
>
> Find teammates - It’s super easy. Go to Xbox Looking For Group. Make a post “Looking for 1 or 2 teammates of skill level X.” Lots of good players use looking for group. Alternitively just play like normal, and if you win a match where you worked well with your teammates, send them a message saying “GG, want to team up?” Met a majority of people I play with this way.
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> What won’t fix the problem is having a solo que only playlist. It would literally be luck based. There is a skilled team playlist player that makes similar posts to your own, he almost exclusvely solo-ques and, and even though the vast majority of his matches are against other solo-que teams his W/L is literally 50%. It is a coin flip of who gets the better team and not much you can do about it. Doesn’t sound like a very skill based or rewarding playlist to me.
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> But please, complain more about teams in a team playlist. May as well complain about there being chocolate chips in a chocolate chip cookie, or apples being in apple pie.
…and he says,“May as well complain about there being chocolate chips in a chocolate chip cookie…” but that is a very good analogy. If you que in teams by yourself, prepare to lose even if the other players personally themselves are not as good as you. Getting a team of players is as easy as going to xbox groups.
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> > > I’m sorry but if you are allowed to play 3v3 and not be in a party , that option should be a viable one , not a flawed option , like it is now . Create a level playing field , or dont create one at all , because it’s just pure frustration for those who are at a disadvantage. It’s easy for party players to say it don’t matter , because you lot are just smashing through non party players with ease . Falsely satisfying I imagine . If this problem doesn’t get sorted soon and people begin to realise why those coordinated rushes are beating them everytime, they’re just gonna stop playing , like I am going to do . Then you won’t have many people to play with . Wake up Halo and sort your dumb game out . Please.
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> > You’re complaining about coordinated teams in… a team playlist…
> >
> > The same holds true in Halo 5. If you play Team Arena solo you will be continually crushed by coordinated teams past a certain point, that’s kinda the whole idea. Team play is about communication, and those that achieve the highest ranks should be those that not only have good individual skill, but good communication as well.
> >
> > Solutions:
> > Play 1v1 - Boom, there’s your playlist that gives you the ability to rank up squarely on your own individual skill.
> >
> > Find teammates - It’s super easy. Go to Xbox Looking For Group. Make a post “Looking for 1 or 2 teammates of skill level X.” Lots of good players use looking for group. Alternitively just play like normal, and if you win a match where you worked well with your teammates, send them a message saying “GG, want to team up?” Met a majority of people I play with this way.
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> > What won’t fix the problem is having a solo que only playlist. It would literally be luck based. There is a skilled team playlist player that makes similar posts to your own, he almost exclusvely solo-ques and, and even though the vast majority of his matches are against other solo-que teams his W/L is literally 50%. It is a coin flip of who gets the better team and not much you can do about it. Doesn’t sound like a very skill based or rewarding playlist to me.
> >
> > But please, complain more about teams in a team playlist. May as well complain about there being chocolate chips in a chocolate chip cookie, or apples being in apple pie.
>
> …and he says,“May as well complain about there being chocolate chips in a chocolate chip cookie…” but that is a very good analogy. If you que in teams by yourself, prepare to lose even if the other players personally themselves are not as good as you. Getting a team of players is as easy as going to xbox groups.
You guys obviously play in a party so you don’t know what you’re on about . As I stated , it was an option in halo wars 1 , so why not now , or are you guys afraid of having your dead easy wins taken away from you . Afraid you’ll only have other coordinated teams to play against and your precipes rank will fall through the floor . Please , get real guys , I’m just asking for a fair system . If halo wars did it , this one can too . And if you can only beat solo players in 3v3 , shame on you . Also , you say " be prepared to lose if you go solo" . What a dumb attitude . Probably 50% are playing out of party . Do you really think that many people deserve to be so shoddily treated. Also , I don’t want to party up with other people right now . There are a lot of -Yoinks!- on this xbox . As for my own list of friends , they don’t love halo wars like I do .
It being an option in hw1, ruined the playlists wait times, made it so 2 people couldn’t search 3s. There are Waaaaaay more players playing solo then there are playing teams as a party, But these are all the bad players. Almost no one good searches on their own but then they come and moan that they want to play at a higher level in a teams playlist without using the core point of a teams playlist, teamwork. Frankly if you aren’t in a using teamwork then don’t expect to get champ. But just incase I’m going to go see how high I can get without partying up.
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> Ive played plenty of 3v3’s alone even against full teams and won. Halo Wars 2 doesnt have a 3v3 solo playlist like the original Halo Wars had, you just gotta practice and team up with someone.
How can you play “alone” and “team up with someone”? If you mean tag along your team mate when they go attack then yeah that will sometimes work. But I can guarantee the random people you get paired with will more than likely not be good or on par with your strategy. Every game I’ve played in 3v3 with random is usually really messy.
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> > I’m sorry but if you are allowed to play 3v3 and not be in a party , that option should be a viable one , not a flawed option , like it is now . Create a level playing field , or dont create one at all , because it’s just pure frustration for those who are at a disadvantage. It’s easy for party players to say it don’t matter , because you lot are just smashing through non party players with ease . Falsely satisfying I imagine . If this problem doesn’t get sorted soon and people begin to realise why those coordinated rushes are beating them everytime, they’re just gonna stop playing , like I am going to do . Then you won’t have many people to play with . Wake up Halo and sort your dumb game out . Please.
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> You’re complaining about coordinated teams in… a team playlist…
>
> The same holds true in Halo 5. If you play Team Arena solo you will be continually crushed by coordinated teams past a certain point, that’s kinda the whole idea. Team play is about communication, and those that achieve the highest ranks should be those that not only have good individual skill, but good communication as well.
>
> Solutions:
> Play 1v1 - Boom, there’s your playlist that gives you the ability to rank up squarely on your own individual skill.
>
> Find teammates - It’s super easy. Go to Xbox Looking For Group. Make a post “Looking for 1 or 2 teammates of skill level X.” Lots of good players use looking for group. Alternitively just play like normal, and if you win a match where you worked well with your teammates, send them a message saying “GG, want to team up?” Met a majority of people I play with this way.
>
> What won’t fix the problem is having a solo que only playlist. It would literally be luck based. There is a skilled team playlist player that makes similar posts to your own, he almost exclusvely solo-ques and, and even though the vast majority of his matches are against other solo-que teams his W/L is literally 50%. It is a coin flip of who gets the better team and not much you can do about it. Doesn’t sound like a very skill based or rewarding playlist to me.
>
> But please, complain more about teams in a team playlist. May as well complain about there being chocolate chips in a chocolate chip cookie, or apples being in apple pie.
No need for the nerdy smart alec response at the end of your post. A 3x3 Random (where it’s 3v3 with random players) doesn’t seem like a bad option for those who don’t want to talk or socialize with anyone and just want to hop into a quick 3v3 match.
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> > > > I’m sorry but if you are allowed to play 3v3 and not be in a party , that option should be a viable one , not a flawed option , like it is now . Create a level playing field , or dont create one at all , because it’s just pure frustration for those who are at a disadvantage. It’s easy for party players to say it don’t matter , because you lot are just smashing through non party players with ease . Falsely satisfying I imagine . If this problem doesn’t get sorted soon and people begin to realise why those coordinated rushes are beating them everytime, they’re just gonna stop playing , like I am going to do . Then you won’t have many people to play with . Wake up Halo and sort your dumb game out . Please.
> >
> > …and he says,“May as well complain about there being chocolate chips in a chocolate chip cookie…” but that is a very good analogy. If you que in teams by yourself, prepare to lose even if the other players personally themselves are not as good as you. Getting a team of players is as easy as going to xbox groups.
>
> You guys obviously play in a party so you don’t know what you’re on about . As I stated , it was an option in halo wars 1 , so why not now , or are you guys afraid of having your dead easy wins taken away from you . Afraid you’ll only have other coordinated teams to play against and your precipes rank will fall through the floor . Please , get real guys , I’m just asking for a fair system . If halo wars did it , this one can too . And if you can only beat solo players in 3v3 , shame on you . Also , you say " be prepared to lose if you go solo" . What a dumb attitude . Probably 50% are playing out of party . Do you really think that many people deserve to be so shoddily treated. Also , I don’t want to party up with other people right now . There are a lot of -Yoinks!- on this xbox . As for my own list of friends , they don’t love halo wars like I do .
You don’t know me so don’t assume anything. I used to solo que for the longest time. Then I got fed up with random uncoordinated and less skilled teammates. Did I go to the forums and cry about it? No, I started sending messages that took ten seconds to type to random teammates that worked well with me. Then I learned about the amazing utility of Looking For Group. Now, if none of my friends aqcuired from previous matches are on, I don’t even have to solo que to find more. I literally hit one button to repost an ad for teammates, for which I generally find 1 or 2 within the time period of a match. The number of people that I’ve met through Looking For Group in Halo Wars 2 that are whatever explitive the forum censored is approximately zero.
Boom, solo-que problems solved with next to zero effort. If I really can’t find someone at all, I just play 1v1 or solo que Team War.
Further, random solo que teams is not “fair,” it is random. It is literally the exact opposite of a skill based system. Yung Jedi, who posts about the same subject, is a very good player. However, his W/L is 50% even when the vast majority of his games are against other solo-que teams. Like I said, literally a coin flip, the match is decided on what team gets the better individual players, not skill, hence the 50% W/L. If you want skill based ranking on your merits alone, then play 1v1. If you want to play teams but don’t want your rank effected by the solo que disadvantage, go play Team War. The only thing putting you at a disadvantage is your own self-imposed restriction on coordination.
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> > > I’m sorry but if you are allowed to play 3v3 and not be in a party , that option should be a viable one , not a flawed option , like it is now . Create a level playing field , or dont create one at all , because it’s just pure frustration for those who are at a disadvantage. It’s easy for party players to say it don’t matter , because you lot are just smashing through non party players with ease . Falsely satisfying I imagine . If this problem doesn’t get sorted soon and people begin to realise why those coordinated rushes are beating them everytime, they’re just gonna stop playing , like I am going to do . Then you won’t have many people to play with . Wake up Halo and sort your dumb game out . Please.
> >
> > You’re complaining about coordinated teams in… a team playlist…
> >
> > The same holds true in Halo 5. If you play Team Arena solo you will be continually crushed by coordinated teams past a certain point, that’s kinda the whole idea. Team play is about communication, and those that achieve the highest ranks should be those that not only have good individual skill, but good communication as well.
> >
> > Solutions:
> > Play 1v1 - Boom, there’s your playlist that gives you the ability to rank up squarely on your own individual skill.
> >
> > Find teammates - It’s super easy. Go to Xbox Looking For Group. Make a post “Looking for 1 or 2 teammates of skill level X.” Lots of good players use looking for group. Alternitively just play like normal, and if you win a match where you worked well with your teammates, send them a message saying “GG, want to team up?” Met a majority of people I play with this way.
> >
> > What won’t fix the problem is having a solo que only playlist. It would literally be luck based. There is a skilled team playlist player that makes similar posts to your own, he almost exclusvely solo-ques and, and even though the vast majority of his matches are against other solo-que teams his W/L is literally 50%. It is a coin flip of who gets the better team and not much you can do about it. Doesn’t sound like a very skill based or rewarding playlist to me.
> >
> > But please, complain more about teams in a team playlist. May as well complain about there being chocolate chips in a chocolate chip cookie, or apples being in apple pie.
>
> No need for the nerdy smart alec response at the end of your post. A 3x3 Random (where it’s 3v3 with random players) doesn’t seem like a bad option for those who don’t want to talk or socialize with anyone and just want to hop into a quick 3v3 match.
**Then play team war and stop posting on the forums about how teams in a team playlist are unfair when it is literally the whole point of the playlist. Or at least acknowledge that your disadvantage in ranked is self-imposed/intentional.**Like I said, you don’t:
Play ranked Halo 5 Team Slayer solo and then complain that coordination is unfair and that there should be a solo que ranked team slayer playlist
Go to the store and buy a box of chocolate chip cookies, then after you open it complain that there are chocolate chips in it.
Teams in a team playlist is the whole point. Jusr like in Halo 5, and just like how chocolate chips being in the cookie is the whole point of a chocolate chip cookie. It’s straight up in the name.
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> It being an option in hw1, ruined the playlists wait times, made it so 2 people couldn’t search 3s. There are Waaaaaay more players playing solo then there are playing teams as a party, But these are all the bad players. Almost no one good searches on their own but then they come and moan that they want to play at a higher level in a teams playlist without using the core point of a teams playlist, teamwork. Frankly if you aren’t in a using teamwork then don’t expect to get champ. But just incase I’m going to go see how high I can get without partying up.
Flame pieman. Please stop talking utter rubbish . I played halo wars 1 more than most . I was true skill 33 , reached 280 in the world rankings on solo . The waiting times on that game were minimal . All you in party players are so worried about having your cannon fodder (out of party players) taken away from that you keep posting your stupid comments . I will say it AGAIN for those idiots not listening . If you create a game mode , it HAS to be a fair one . Why should it benefit some more than others . And if there are more out of party players than in party , then the majority are more important than the minority , so give us our own playlist , which will stop you lot feeding your oh so precious rank from our suffering . ALL I WANT IS A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. Is that such a bad request . OK , so you lot would have to learn how to play better to get your wins . Not just trashing out of party players with your 3 army rushes on 1 base strategy. My god , any fools can pull that off. The quicker this is implemented, the quicker halo will stop losing fans of what could be a brilliant strategy game
. Probably better than halo wars 1 . Maybe . Also , you say out of party players are no good . Who the hell are you to go insulting so many dedicated followers of the game . You think your something special ? Your an ignorant fool who only wants to protect his precious rank because it validates your meagre existence somehow . Pathetic . I’m not asking to be given an advantage , just fairness . At the moment it’s unfair . Even you lot in party know it , but you all want it to remain that way because you are enjoying the easy wins. Pathetic . It seems the only people in this forum are people like you who are so consumed by what rank they are , treating others fairly has gone right out the window . Please stop worrying about your precious rank and join me in doing the right thing and tell halo get us out of party players our own playlist.
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> > It being an option in hw1, ruined the playlists wait times, made it so 2 people couldn’t search 3s. There are Waaaaaay more players playing solo then there are playing teams as a party, But these are all the bad players. Almost no one good searches on their own but then they come and moan that they want to play at a higher level in a teams playlist without using the core point of a teams playlist, teamwork. Frankly if you aren’t in a using teamwork then don’t expect to get champ. But just incase I’m going to go see how high I can get without partying up.
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> Flame pieman. Please stop talking utter rubbish . I played halo wars 1 more than most . I was true skill 33 , reached 280 in the world rankings on solo . The waiting times on that game were minimal . All you in party players are so worried about having your cannon fodder (out of party players) taken away from that you keep posting your stupid comments . I will say it AGAIN for those idiots not listening . If you create a game mode , it HAS to be a fair one . Why should it benefit some more than others . And if there are more out of party players than in party , then the majority are more important than the minority , so give us our own playlist , which will stop you lot feeding your oh so precious rank from our suffering . ALL I WANT IS A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. Is that such a bad request . OK , so you lot would have to learn how to play better to get your wins . Not just trashing out of party players with your 3 army rushes on 1 base strategy. My god , any fools can pull that off. The quicker this is implemented, the quicker halo will stop losing fans of what could be a brilliant strategy game
> . Probably better than halo wars 1 . Maybe . Also , you say out of party players are no good . Who the hell are you to go insulting so many dedicated followers of the game . You think your something special ? Your an ignorant fool who only wants to protect his precious rank because it validates your meagre existence somehow . Pathetic . I’m not asking to be given an advantage , just fairness . At the moment it’s unfair . Even you lot in party know it , but you all want it to remain that way because you are enjoying the easy wins. Pathetic . It seems the only people in this forum are people like you who are so consumed by what rank they are , treating others fairly has gone right out the window . Please stop worrying about your precious rank and join me in doing the right thing and tell halo get us out of party players our own playlist.
I struggle to see why it is so “unfair” to have solo queue players in with party players. Almost every other game does it that way.
Additionally you keep referencing the fact that HW1 had split playlists, but you don’t acknowledge the fact that would hurt the player base. Splitting those that play team matches will increase search times and will eventually damage the longevity of the game.
Also no one here is against split playlists because they want “free wins”. All we want is to be able to find competitive matches that don’t take 15 minutes to find someone.
You are right, tired to play with people who cumulate bases instead of units in the beginning, gratz bro at the 5 minutes you got 3 bases but 2 marines, what do you really think is gonna happens?
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> > > It being an option in hw1, ruined the playlists wait times, made it so 2 people couldn’t search 3s. There are Waaaaaay more players playing solo then there are playing teams as a party, But these are all the bad players. Almost no one good searches on their own but then they come and moan that they want to play at a higher level in a teams playlist without using the core point of a teams playlist, teamwork. Frankly if you aren’t in a using teamwork then don’t expect to get champ. But just incase I’m going to go see how high I can get without partying up.
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> > Flame pieman. Please stop talking utter rubbish . I played halo wars 1 more than most . I was true skill 33 , reached 280 in the world rankings on solo . The waiting times on that game were minimal . All you in party players are so worried about having your cannon fodder (out of party players) taken away from that you keep posting your stupid comments . I will say it AGAIN for those idiots not listening . If you create a game mode , it HAS to be a fair one . Why should it benefit some more than others . And if there are more out of party players than in party , then the majority are more important than the minority , so give us our own playlist , which will stop you lot feeding your oh so precious rank from our suffering . ALL I WANT IS A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. Is that such a bad request . OK , so you lot would have to learn how to play better to get your wins . Not just trashing out of party players with your 3 army rushes on 1 base strategy. My god , any fools can pull that off. The quicker this is implemented, the quicker halo will stop losing fans of what could be a brilliant strategy game
> > . Probably better than halo wars 1 . Maybe . Also , you say out of party players are no good . Who the hell are you to go insulting so many dedicated followers of the game . You think your something special ? Your an ignorant fool who only wants to protect his precious rank because it validates your meagre existence somehow . Pathetic . I’m not asking to be given an advantage , just fairness . At the moment it’s unfair . Even you lot in party know it , but you all want it to remain that way because you are enjoying the easy wins. Pathetic . It seems the only people in this forum are people like you who are so consumed by what rank they are , treating others fairly has gone right out the window . Please stop worrying about your precious rank and join me in doing the right thing and tell halo get us out of party players our own playlist.
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> I struggle to see why it is so “unfair” to have solo queue players in with party players. Almost every other game does it that way.
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> Additionally you keep referencing the fact that HW1 had split playlists, but you don’t acknowledge the fact that would hurt the player base. Splitting those that play team matches will increase search times and will eventually damage the longevity of the game.
>
> Also no one here is against split playlists because they want “free wins”. All we want is to be able to find competitive matches that don’t take 15 minutes to find someone.
All I’m hearing is you lot (in party players) whinging about splitting the playlist cos you’ll all have to fight each other , and that’s gonna be a proper fight where you have to actually use your brain to get your precious xp. Not like churning through the cannon fodder (out of party players) with mindless 3 army rushes , gathearing buckets of xp in record time . “Oooo. Look at me . I’m onyx or champ .” Grow up guys and let’s get the level playing field we ALL deserve . You can’t feel satisfied farming xp with these easy victoties, or are you all that fickle . Cmon halo , please do the right thing . It’s for the majority of players , which is out of party players , that I speak . It’s horrible losing so many matches to unskilled 3 army rushes on your base . And you all know it’s true . Please just man up and let’s do the right thing by the masses and get us a non party playlist . It’s nothe hard .
Yeah but rush or anti-rush is the only way to go no way are you gonna win in this patch if you start building units after teching up.
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> > > > It being an option in hw1, ruined the playlists wait times, made it so 2 people couldn’t search 3s. There are Waaaaaay more players playing solo then there are playing teams as a party, But these are all the bad players. Almost no one good searches on their own but then they come and moan that they want to play at a higher level in a teams playlist without using the core point of a teams playlist, teamwork. Frankly if you aren’t in a using teamwork then don’t expect to get champ. But just incase I’m going to go see how high I can get without partying up.
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> All I’m hearing is you lot (in party players) whinging about splitting the playlist cos you’ll all have to fight each other
Funny enough, all these “party players” you’re accusing more often than not do face each other all the time. They meet together in custom matches and play each other that way.
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To counter your last point in your prior post, Breezy, I think the problem that is the main argument here is the “competetive” piece. We’ve currently got a system that will match 2 onyx and 1 diamond (partied) against 1 champ and 2 golds like that’s balanced, and the reigning argument is “that’s good cause it didn’t take 15 minutes”. Like… We don’t wanna wait 15 minutes either, but, when these 3 champ parties roll through against 3 soloers, literally nobody has fun with it. So the argument is “don’t split the player base into 2 groups that have balanced and fun matches cause we can have 1 larger group of two sides that don’t enjoy it”? Feels… Needlessly wanting.
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#1. He said the que times for duos and full teams became super long, not solo.
#2. You literally call people idiots, then later cry about Pieman calling certain players less skilled/bad. Something something throwing stones and glass houses.
#3. Random solo que teams is random, not a level playing field. If you want a level playing field play 1v1. Random solo que teams just mean your W/L no longer becomes skill based, but rather probability based. 50/50 odds that the other team gets a random combination better than yours. The prime example being Yung Jedi, a player who solo ques teams whom is much higher rank than you, but still has a 50% W/L.
#4. Nobody is preventing you from playing with a team but yourself. There is nothing unfair about it, because having your own communicating team is as simple as making a Looking For Group post or sending out a few post match messages to good teammates. If you choose to forever stay solo in a team playlist, that’s your choice, but is a personal handicap you have to acknowledge. Just like if you played Halo 5 and refused to use anything but melee. Yea, that puts you at a disadvantage, but one easily fixed and certainly doesn’t necessitate a ranked melee only playlist to cater to your stuck mindset.
#5. Communication IS how you learn to “play better” in teams. Pieman is one of the top 1v1 players, he most definitely knows how to play the game better than 99.9% of other players. Yet I bet if he were to solo que teams, he would lose some matches to other solo que teams, not for lack of his own skill, but for having terrible teammates against a decent random enemy team. THAT is why a solo que ranked playlist is a terrible idea. I play 1v1 every season until I reach Onyx rank so that I know my personal skill is at least Onyx on its own. Yet if I solo que team war I’ll still lose matches against lower ranked players just because I got even worse teammates on my side.
#6. Rushes are easy to stop with a coordinated team if you scout it first, even 3 on one base.
#7. And right back to insulting people, calling them pathetic and what not when you literally cried about Pieman calling a lot of the solo queuers bad, particularly relative to him. Pot meet Kettle.
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> > > > It being an option in hw1, ruined the playlists wait times, made it so 2 people couldn’t search 3s. There are Waaaaaay more players playing solo then there are playing teams as a party, But these are all the bad players. Almost no one good searches on their own but then they come and moan that they want to play at a higher level in a teams playlist without using the core point of a teams playlist, teamwork. Frankly if you aren’t in a using teamwork then don’t expect to get champ. But just incase I’m going to go see how high I can get without partying up.
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> > > Flame pieman. Please stop talking utter rubbish . I played halo wars 1 more than most . I was true skill 33 , reached 280 in the world rankings on solo . The waiting times on that game were minimal . All you in party players are so worried about having your cannon fodder (out of party players) taken away from that you keep posting your stupid comments . I will say it AGAIN for those idiots not listening . If you create a game mode , it HAS to be a fair one . Why should it benefit some more than others . And if there are more out of party players than in party , then the majority are more important than the minority , so give us our own playlist , which will stop you lot feeding your oh so precious rank from our suffering . ALL I WANT IS A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. Is that such a bad request . OK , so you lot would have to learn how to play better to get your wins . Not just trashing out of party players with your 3 army rushes on 1 base strategy. My god , any fools can pull that off. The quicker this is implemented, the quicker halo will stop losing fans of what could be a brilliant strategy game
> > > . Probably better than halo wars 1 . Maybe . Also , you say out of party players are no good . Who the hell are you to go insulting so many dedicated followers of the game . You think your something special ? Your an ignorant fool who only wants to protect his precious rank because it validates your meagre existence somehow . Pathetic . I’m not asking to be given an advantage , just fairness . At the moment it’s unfair . Even you lot in party know it , but you all want it to remain that way because you are enjoying the easy wins. Pathetic . It seems the only people in this forum are people like you who are so consumed by what rank they are , treating others fairly has gone right out the window . Please stop worrying about your precious rank and join me in doing the right thing and tell halo get us out of party players our own playlist.
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> All I’m hearing is you lot (in party players) whinging about splitting the playlist cos you’ll all have to fight each other , and that’s gonna be a proper fight where you have to actually use your brain to get your precious xp. Not like churning through the cannon fodder (out of party players) with mindless 3 army rushes , gathearing buckets of xp in record time . “Oooo. Look at me . I’m onyx or champ .” Grow up guys and let’s get the level playing field we ALL deserve . You can’t feel satisfied farming xp with these easy victoties, or are you all that fickle . Cmon halo , please do the right thing . It’s for the majority of players , which is out of party players , that I speak . It’s horrible losing so many matches to unskilled 3 army rushes on your base . And you all know it’s true . Please just man up and let’s do the right thing by the masses and get us a non party playlist . It’s nothe hard .
#1. We LOVE “fighting each other.” Its literally the best source of points, and if no smurfs are involved you don’t risk a bunch either. I get 1-5 points for beating most solo que teams, but 20+ for beating good teams. I tend to DC from internet issues sometimes, so I really prefer going against better teams as 1 DC = -30 CSR no matter who, which I can at least make up in 2-3 good matches as opposed to 6-30 poor matches. But what I prefer the most is to actually find matches. Not that a solo que playlist will fix the matchmaking issues from low population. Now if it is only a few diamond/platinum teams searching the team only playlist, I’m going to wait for max search radius everytime just to get the same team that we will crush again. Crush them until they quit playing and then my que times will reach 5-10min+. Meaning the only playable ranked playlist for 3v3 will be solo que, where your W/L is almost entirely out of your hands.
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Again, 3 army rushes are easy to stop with communication and scouting. Because you choose not to communicate is your problem, not the game’s.
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Please remeber that I was a solo queuer just like you. Except I realized that’s a “me” issue and not a game issue, and I spent next to zero effort fixing it and wa-la.