We all know that this game horribly benefits full teams over solo or smaller lobby players. The game fails to match you against full lobbies if your also matching with a full fireteam. This is a huge problem for social players and its ultimately effecting the game for lots of people.
Full teams match randoms and just stat on them while small lobbies face full teams and have trouble enjoying the game. This has never been such a huge problem before. I know several friends that i have completely stopped play halo simply because the search parameters are so awful.
The solutions is to update the MOR search preferences with one that matches you with only people withing the same lobby size as you.
Updated Search Parameters:
- Searching would take party size into account, matching teams vs teams.
- Party size will match for lobbies of the same size
- Full teams will always face full teams
This alone will change the game. It will make halo 5 way more enjoyable and fair.
What do you think they could do to make matching fair and to make halo 5 way more fun?
Teams need to be the very first factor in matchmaking, even above rank/skill. The fact that it’s not even taken into account is absolutely absurd, and I have no idea how 343 hasn’t addressed this issue yet. Do they never play solo? It’s the most joyless solo experience in any multiplayer FPS I’ve ever faced.
Going solo, I routinely lose 5-8 games in a row. What I mean by that is if I play 20 games, I guarantee I will have a massive losing streak somewhere in there. Conversely, if I’m teamed up, I routinely win about 60-70 percent of my games, minimum. In Warzone, it’s worse because the coordination of even a small group on a team will wreck any team full of randoms.
I just simply don’t understand how this issue hasn’t been addressed yet. It makes me want to quit playing the game, because I don’t have the free time to organize a group when I want to play.
Edit: Meant to say 60-70 percent of my games, not 6-7 games out of 20. Brain fart.
I’ve been thinking the same thing, I don’t know how much it will affect match times but I do think they should at least add preferences that try to do this.
I always play solo, and usually do pretty well, unless I’m going against an obviously fire team, normally the ones with matching gamertags
Halo is not dieing it will continue to survive but i completely agree that it is weakening. This is one of the issues that is causing it. Full fire teams should not be fighting randoms crushing them. When these casuals/randoms are getting killed they will likely stop playing halo. This is a problem because the majority of people who buy halo are casuals. It is a flawed system that 343 needs to change. Yes others could get in fire teams themselves but i prefer playing by myself. Get more kills and more challenging instead of just crushing people. I doubt any changes will come on halo 5 but possibly on 6.
I doubt the population is big enough for full parties to just match full parties. What I’d like to see is for the game to make it a priority to try and match similar parties of equal size and if it can’t then match a full party against solo players. I don’t know how they would make it so the same parties don’t constantly play each other though.
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> Teams need to be the very first factor in matchmaking, even above rank/skill. The fact that it’s not even taken into account is absolutely absurd, and I have no idea how 343 hasn’t addressed this issue yet. Do they never play solo? It’s the most joyless solo experience in any multiplayer FPS I’ve ever faced.
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> Going solo, I routinely lose 5-8 games in a row. What I mean by that is if I play 20 games, I guarantee I will have a massive losing streak somewhere in there. Conversely, if I’m teamed up, I routinely win about 6 or 7 games out of 20, minimum. In Warzone, it’s worse because the coordination of even a small team will wreck any team full of ransoms.
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> I just simply don’t understand how this issue hasn’t been addressed yet. It makes me want to quit playing the game, because I don’t have the free time to organize a group when I want to play.
ALL OF THIS!
I agree this is killing halo, its a vicious cycle.
Solo Player:
- Log on halo 5
- Play game matched against full team
- Become discouraged and quit
- Play something else because of how bad they think they are at halo 5, even though it was just the team coordination aspect that hurt them.
Team Player:
- Log on halo 5
- Play game matched against randoms
- Convince yourself you are a god because you can coordinate against people who have no communication
- Keep playing halo 5 because destroying everyone is a ton of fun
This creates a higher influx of team players; people who log on by themselves every once in a while are immediately discouraged from playing, thus resulting in even smaller numbers of randoms and increasing the fireteam:random ratio. This creates of vicious cycle of randoms having a higher and higher likelihood of matching vs. a team as more randoms quit. Eventually, this will spiral out of control to the point where matching against a team will be unavoidable.
Lol Halo 5…pulling the community together to rip it apart.
You know I’m one of the biggest farmers but I’d much rather constantly keep matching teams over and over.
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> > Teams need to be the very first factor in matchmaking, even above rank/skill. The fact that it’s not even taken into account is absolutely absurd, and I have no idea how 343 hasn’t addressed this issue yet. Do they never play solo? It’s the most joyless solo experience in any multiplayer FPS I’ve ever faced.
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> > Going solo, I routinely lose 5-8 games in a row. What I mean by that is if I play 20 games, I guarantee I will have a massive losing streak somewhere in there. Conversely, if I’m teamed up, I routinely win about 6 or 7 games out of 20, minimum. In Warzone, it’s worse because the coordination of even a small team will wreck any team full of ransoms.
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> > I just simply don’t understand how this issue hasn’t been addressed yet. It makes me want to quit playing the game, because I don’t have the free time to organize a group when I want to play.
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Oops, meant to say I easily win a minimum of 60-70 percent of my games when teamed up, not that I usually win 6-7 games out of 20. Brain fart. I absolutely meant I routinely lose 5-8 games in a row when going solo, however.
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> You know I’m one of the biggest farmers but I’d much rather constantly keep matching teams over and over.
Same here. Destroying randoms every game isn’t fun at all.
You guys act like good players want to beat up on solo players all day long. We don’t, we’d love some competitive matches. Too bad they only come along every one out of 25 games.
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> > You know I’m one of the biggest farmers but I’d much rather constantly keep matching teams over and over.
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> Same here. Destroying randoms every game isn’t fun at all.
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> You guys act like good players want to beat up on solo players all day long. We don’t, we’d love some competitive matches. Too bad they only come along every one out of 25 games.
I don’t think anyone is blaming teams for crushing randoms. We’re mad the game doesn’t even attempt to match teams against teams and randoms against randoms.
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> > Same here. Destroying randoms every game isn’t fun at all.
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> > You guys act like good players want to beat up on solo players all day long. We don’t, we’d love some competitive matches. Too bad they only come along every one out of 25 games.
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> I don’t think anyone is blaming teams for crushing randoms. We’re mad the game doesn’t even attempt to match teams against teams and randoms against randoms.
I feel the same way.
Those 2 weeks of Ranked BTB were the most fun and most competitive Halo I’ve played since H3 Squad Battle. Used to play a team of 8 at least once every 3 games.
The thing is, the solo players complained about it being too competitive and not wanting it to be ranked…
It’s insane how quickly you go from halo god to -Yoink–tier in this game.
I was in swat and ended up going 20-5
Next game My deaths tripled my kills.
WTF?
I feel no reason to try to improve. It’s not like I can work through the various ranks since I could play bronze one game then play platinum the next.
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> It’s insane how quickly you go from halo god to -Yoink–tier in this game.
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> I was in swat and ended up going 20-5
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> WTF?
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> I feel no reason to try to improve. It’s not like I can work through the various ranks since I could play bronze one game then play platinum the next.
yeah, hang in there maybe 343i will see this thread and try to do something to fix the search parameters.
we have to keep this thread alive
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> > It’s insane how quickly you go from halo god to -Yoink–tier in this game.
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> > I feel no reason to try to improve. It’s not like I can work through the various ranks since I could play bronze one game then play platinum the next.
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> yeah, hang in there maybe 343i will see this thread and try to do something to fix the search parameters.
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> we have to keep this thread alive
Honestly, I don’t see that happening.
I really like 343! I think they’re good developers! I’m really, really looking forward to the next Halo FPS (caveat: if it fixes these issues)! But this has been a problem since the day the game launched, and it’s only gotten worse as the population has thinned out. They’ve had a long time to address it, and they haven’t. I just think we have to admit it’s not changing.
I played a handful of arena matches last night trying to get the daily win pack and ended up matching against full fireteams or singles who were much higher ranked. Lost every match and most weren’t close. Had a SWAT game where at 12 kills I had almost half of our entire team’s score. Post game carnage report showed us randoms playing a Spartan company of 3 high diamonds and a silver.
I’m platinum 2 in arena, and I get matched against diamonds almost every round. I rarely get to play gold ranks, and if I do they always seen like smurf accounts at rank 20 going 22-4. Skill based matching needs more work, especially in regards to teams matching with singles.
They need a solo preference.
You CAN’T solo search If Your fireteam Size Exceeds 1.
And it prioritizes other solo players and smaller fireteams . (Size 1-5)