You deleted your post? Sus
Also fair warning I’m tired and won’t be responding to anything or anyone until tomorrow.
So why should they be on the “noncanon” side of the toggle then?
So far you have yet to give an objective reason as to why.
Saying it shouldn’t be and explaining why it shouldn’t be are two entirely separate things.
Hayabusa is canon, saying it shouldn’t be is fine, but give an objective reason why or at least make it clear your stance is entirely subjective/opinionated.
This is true to some extent, but convention isn’t what the Spartan program and all it encompasses was built upon. In fact, the entire idea of the Spartan program was entirely unconventional canonically.
There’s also a certain amount of artistic liberty involved as well. While humanity still uses arguably antiquated equipment for nearly 500 years in the future, their weapons in their design have also devolved in a certain capacity for the sake of artistically looking visually interesting. Paired with bright lights, golden visors, lack of iron sights, one can only take the practicality of the military designs so far. Suspension of disbelief is required.
Ever wonder how a 7 foot tall 994lb spartan muffles their footsteps? Now you do.
The world of Halo didn’t really start taking itself too seriously until Reach. Up through ODST, there was a palpable level of hammed up bravado and jargon akin to that of 80’s action films rather than the simplicity suggested.
Don’t dismiss my arguments over the arguments of others who may feel that way.
I’ve given plenty of reasoning and precedence as to why they’re not totally out of left field.
So I’m a furry for defending the legitimacy of a helmet attachment?
No I don’t have the logs from back then they’re mostly all gone save for a few saved WBM clippings, but being an active on the Bungie forums if the katana got brought up it was mostly about the hope of adding it to other chest plates.
On the note of color, what colors are noncanon? What metric is used to describe the canonical context of color? Come on dude don’t just say it, back your opinions up.
Because the forum is a place for discussion. If you’re going to state an opinion on a public forum, you should expect responses and dialogue.
I’ve addressed every one of your arguments and countered most of them. The Fiction we’re arguing within has existing rules and precedence. We all have referenced it in our arguments, and thus because we’ve referenced it we can continue to discuss it further. You can’t just pull up the ladder to prevent others from using it, that’s cheap.
Then give a rational objective reason why.
Taking the charm out of a title is hardly “better”.
A toggle is fine. But a toggle needs to be specific.
Halo 2 and 3 had plenty of absurdities, you’re not even making it clear what absurdities are, just a few vague references. Give a detailed list or something.
Would it? Explain your reasoning. Why do the benefits outweigh the cons, convince me.
Direct or generalized insults shouldn’t be tolerated. Civil discussion is better without them. You have my support in that regard.
In the case of Gungir, it can deduced that it has some form of projected HUD, especially considering the size of the faceplate.
~EVA is a designation used for space activities, the helmet’s design is indicative of higher peripheral visibility. Scarring the surface of a visor like this is impractical and shouldn’t be canonically accepted by a serious military organization.~
Wouldn’t that be boring?
Naming wise sure, but does that make the source material any less genuine?
For a toggle, absolutely.
Good start that’s a solid basis.
Only question is what if holo visors and Purrfect Audio is canon within “Canon toggle”?
I was 75% through the responses when I misclicked “post”. Chill my guy, I’m not letting you off the hook that easily. Trand0 is having fun.
It was happening well before my edited in acknowledgments began, I didn’t start the conflict. Better to call out the harassment for what it is rather than stooping down to the hecklers’ level. But ultimately you’re missing the point of the responses: joke’s on them, you can’t “bait react” an edit calling out the bait react as contextually irrelevant 
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Inception level 3 
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I’m just gonna do an overall basic response. Obviously my perspective is subjective. But I also sternly think it’s just common sense that, unless explicitly stated otherwise we should treat everything produced by FOTUS as non-canon.
Which includes all flaming heads and floral chungus and floating Halo rings and bunny ears AND the cat ears.
I think it’s only logical to assume the cat ears along with everything else manufactured by FOTUS is non-canon. Otherwise, why have some of it be canon whilst other stuff like holographic bunny ears aren’t?
If not then I’m just gonna advocate for a FOTUS & Fracture toggle.
Also to note; the mystic meringue coating has been added and they went out of their way to list the manufacturer as FOTUS.
I think we all know why.
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Oh yeah I already had this idea where people where talking about cannon toggles and what not.
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That’d be fun for something like Invasion.
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Sure but what about “Mystic Meringue” makes it more/less out of cannon and silly to put on military units than all the other pink coatings like “violet rush” and “Faded blush” made by UNSC. The “Peppermint Laughter” coating is made by UNSC too, by cannon standards a spartan rocking that paint job in battle is fitting in world.
Also what if it turns out that FOTUS is a company like Coke or Toyota in the world of Halo. SO everything they manufacture is a cannon product in Halo. Not saying this is the case, but imagine.
Some are less ridiculous than others.
Then I cry.
True. But IDK why any military would coat their gear in any type of pink, red, blue, etc. You’d imagine the point is to camo with the environment to make yourself stand out as little as possible.
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That’s what I don’t understand about the Banished UNSC skins from the campaign. I doubt any would look at through a scope and not shoot because it has some red on it to blend in with the enemy. To me it makes the enemies seem a bit dumb and not much of a threat, when they must surely have weaponry capable of identifying targets based on more sophisticated markers.
Spartans have canonically been blue and red before so, I figure Spartans as moral boosting standouts are the exception.
I don’t think the ‘Blood Shadow’ or as I like to call it coke can skin coating is designed behind the idea of fooling long range enemy troops. The way I looked at it, and is reinforced by Rubicon; Spartans have to get by on whatever materials they have so even maybe smelting brute armour and making their own alloys from it is necessary.
At least that’s my interpretation.
They sure have. I was just talking about military in general. Nobody paints their tanks/drones blue, red, purple, pink to boost solider moral because that would be silly/whacky. IDK IRL examples don’t translate too well in a fictional world where the good guys and bad guys are all technicolored rainbow splats.
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Would I still play it? Probably. I’ve been playing since the first game came out and we had to set up LAN parties for big multiplayer days.
Would I continue to grind for weekly challenges or pick up anything in the store? Absolutely not.
Alright, so that may be a bit more on the extreme end, but not unreasonable.
Well until somewhat recently militaries did use color to stand out so you knew who was who. Spartans don’t really need stealth as much as a normal soldier since they are super human so normal soldiers being able to easily recognize them would supply a huge moral boost plus intimidate the enemies.
It makes sense in a universe where defensive armors have advanced so far and we now have motion sensors. Stealth would be negated heavily.
As for cat ears those don’t really have a way to make sense. Sure you could argue they enhance hearing but there is no reason they would have to look like that at all and Halo has historically not had “cute” armor pieces for the most part. Even non cannon stuff like Hayabusa just looked “cool” but not cute, thats the issue here. Many cosmetics change the tone of Halo drastically now and when so many people fell in love with the art style and tone it sucks to have it tainted.
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You forgot to mention that it’s also racist, homophobic, arachnophobic, Islamiphobic, thalassophobic, and xenophobic. It’s current year and this is NOT okay!
I never had a problem with 4/5 armor. Some are just poorly designed, while still reasonably matching the art style at the same time.
Basically all of H4 and H5 armor did not match the Halo art style. Sure they matched what H4 and H5 had respectively but they did not match what the previous games had already established.
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Cat ears in any FPS is silly but then again it’s a game, so…?
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As someone who supports toggle options and doesnt like most the current armor selection; I gotta say this rhetoric make us look quite bad with this.
Obviously the ladder critiques are not relevant to the conversation, nothing remotely related to islam comes form calling other spartans barbies who want to play dressup…that clearly has some level of gendered undertones and it would be a lot better for our cause if you could at least acknowledge that and listen to your interlocetors in good faith. This does not mean you have to surrender outright but surely you understand how a reasonable person hearing this phrase would pick up on gendered language, yes?
Personally, I think we should use a different term. People should not have it infered that being feminine is inherently anti-halo, which if you arent even going to ackknowledge clear gender undertones, then it becomes more reasonable to assume is the actual intent of the language as opposed to an unfortunate coincidence of word choice.
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