Unarranged 2v2 and 3v3 matchmaking where individual players search to find a game is broken. Time after time ive been ranked with low level players who clearly are not on the same skill range. On top of that unarranged players will go up against PARTIED PLAYERS. This is very unfair when you have a full team of players all comminicating vs 1 person who can hold their own and two people who quit during the first five minutes of the game. Halo wars 1 knew this and thats why there were SEPERATE PLAYLISTS for people with and without parties.The game is forcing me to party with players just so that I dont have to worry about unreliable teammates Sorry for the paragraph, this is something I know many people can relate to and hope is addressed in the future by Creative assembely.
It really baffles me when others play 2v2 ranked and 3v3 ranked without a team, why would you disadvantage yourself like that? When you could just play 1v1’s? Just trying to understand the logic around this because if I wanted to play 3/2v’s I would do team war if not in a team.
Why do you prefer that over 1v1s?
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> It really baffles me when others play 2v2 ranked and 3v3 ranked without a team, why would you disadvantage yourself like that? When you could just play 1v1’s? Just trying to understand the logic around this because if I wanted to play 3/2v’s I would do team war if not in a team.
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> Why do you prefer that over 1v1s?
Well, being someone who plays 3v3 alone mainly, I do it because I feel I would get stomped in 1v1. 3v3 allows for some wiggle room since if one person is less skilled (me at times) their are 2 others who can equal it out. If it were 2v2 and one teammate is less skilled then your kinda done for.
I prefer playing team games because if you or someone less is lacking, their is a good chance one of the other two can make up the difference. Also, does it really matter? Ill admit I usually stuck to Team War, but you cannot really get 3v3 their anymore, and while I am fine with 2v2, I like 3v3 more.
Also you have to take into account that while a player is unranked, the matching is like all over the place. I just ranked gold and my last unranked game was with all platinums.
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> It really baffles me when others play 2v2 ranked and 3v3 ranked without a team, why would you disadvantage yourself like that? When you could just play 1v1’s? Just trying to understand the logic around this because if I wanted to play 3/2v’s I would do team war if not in a team.
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> Why do you prefer that over 1v1s?
Typical 1337 thinking.
“They don’t have enough bread? Then why don’t they just eat cakes?”
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> > It really baffles me when others play 2v2 ranked and 3v3 ranked without a team, why would you disadvantage yourself like that? When you could just play 1v1’s? Just trying to understand the logic around this because if I wanted to play 3/2v’s I would do team war if not in a team.
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> Well, being someone who plays 3v3 alone mainly, I do it because I feel I would get stomped in 1v1. 3v3 allows for some wiggle room since if one person is less skilled (me at times) their are 2 others who can equal it out. If it were 2v2 and one teammate is less skilled then your kinda done for.
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> I prefer playing team games because if you or someone less is lacking, their is a good chance one of the other two can make up the difference. Also, does it really matter? Ill admit I usually stuck to Team War, but you cannot really get 3v3 their anymore, and while I am fine with 2v2, I like 3v3 more.
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> Also you have to take into account that while a player is unranked, the matching is like all over the place. I just ranked gold and my last unranked game was with all platinums.
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> > It really baffles me when others play 2v2 ranked and 3v3 ranked without a team, why would you disadvantage yourself like that? When you could just play 1v1’s? Just trying to understand the logic around this because if I wanted to play 3/2v’s I would do team war if not in a team.
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> Typical 1337 thinking.
> “They don’t have enough bread? Then why don’t they just eat cakes?”
Cym not really, I wasn’t meaning anything by it I just wondered why would you play it rather than 1v1. Imo 1v1 is the best mode in terms of gameplay because it’s more about skill rather than synergising with your team mates. I get it in 3v3’s you can play a more support like character which you would probably not get away with in 1v1 say Shippy/Johnson.
And no Knavish it doesn’t matter as long as you are enjoying yourself. It was more a case of curousity killed the cat, most that I know prefer to play 1v1 to the point I’ll be in a party with say 5/6 people all just playing 1v1’s and talking to each other and giving out suggestions on how to play vs them etc. I know I’m competitive so any loss counts to me be it team war or 3v3 so that’s why I wouldn’t even really play team war on my own as I just wouldn’t want to risk having a bad team. But thank you for your response it does give me an insight as to why people would and maybe the odd occassion I do play team war it would explain the discrepancy in players as I always assumed most would be in teams together but then wonder why some players are by far ahead of the others.
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> Unarranged 2v2 and 3v3 matchmaking where individual players search to find a game is broken. Time after time ive been ranked with low level players who clearly are not on the same skill range. On top of that unarranged players will go up against PARTIED PLAYERS. This is very unfair when you have a full team of players all comminicating vs 1 person who can hold their own and two people who quit during the first five minutes of the game. Halo wars 1 knew this and thats why there were SEPERATE PLAYLISTS for people with and without parties.The game is forcing me to party with players just so that I dont have to worry about unreliable teammates Sorry for the paragraph, this is something I know many people can relate to and hope is addressed in the future by Creative assembely.
The population is low enough as is. Dividing the playlists up will only lead to very long matchmaking times. My advice would be to play team war, find good players, and invite them to play ranked. In your post you make the comparison to halo wars 1, but I feel like that isn’t a very valid comparison. Halo wars 1 did not have ranked and unranked game modes. This creates a big problem when trying to separate party teams and non party teams. Would you leave the non party team playlist unranked? If your going to do this, then why not just play team war where rank doesn’t matter? If you make non party teams ranked then would that rank even mean anything? Your wins in this playlist would not depend on your skill and team synergy, but instead it would depend on who gets paired with the better team. The current system is fine and I think changing it would do far more harm than good.
If you are not satisfied how the game is right now and how all the problems affect gameplay of it, I sincerely suggest you to quit. No offense, I do respect your opinion, but people everyday are posting the same thing. Everything is known for now. So, if you’re unhappy, just quit. Making a post like this won’t help, instead, will just create a negative reaction and bring toxic already known information here.
Kyltz.
The problem is not only with unranked games. It’s just ridiculous that you can even be matched against a team, when you play solo in ranked. I only play 3v3 since HW1, because I am on the side with TE, but I am often the better player. ^^ And I like the bigger battles. But it’s unfair that you get matched against ja team. Every other good RTS has a dedicated Teams Playlist jesus even HW1 has one…
On release that wasn’t a problem, but now with the extrem low player pop I always get matched against teams.
@Kyltz: Since HW2 has a really low pop, 343 should adress the problems that made players quit. And the broken matchmaking is clearly one of them. Unless they want it to be dead till christmas, because even AtN won’t help them.
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> It really baffles me when others play 2v2 ranked and 3v3 ranked without a team, why would you disadvantage yourself like that? When you could just play 1v1’s? Just trying to understand the logic around this because if I wanted to play 3/2v’s I would do team war if not in a team.
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> Why do you prefer that over 1v1s?
1’s is sooo damn stressful. It’s fun to play with a team, while still feeling competitive enough. Team play is inherently more fun, for me at least.
That being said, I don’t always want to find a couple guys just to play team war and not get stomped every match. A lesson could be learned from SC2’s matchmaking, where arrangements are reciprocated. Partial parties vs. partial parties. Full parties vs. full parties, etc.
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> > It really baffles me when others play 2v2 ranked and 3v3 ranked without a team, why would you disadvantage yourself like that? When you could just play 1v1’s? Just trying to understand the logic around this because if I wanted to play 3/2v’s I would do team war if not in a team.
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> 1’s is sooo damn stressful. It’s fun to play with a team, while still feeling competitive enough. Team play is inherently more fun, for me at least.
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> That being said, I don’t always want to find a couple guys just to play team war and not get stomped every match. A lesson could be learned from SC2’s matchmaking, where arrangements are reciprocated. Partial parties vs. partial parties. Full parties vs. full parties, etc.
That’s fair enough and I appreciate the input never really thought people would think that way tbh.
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> Unarranged 2v2 and 3v3 matchmaking where individual players search to find a game is broken. Time after time ive been ranked with low level players who clearly are not on the same skill range. On top of that unarranged players will go up against PARTIED PLAYERS. This is very unfair when you have a full team of players all comminicating vs 1 person who can hold their own and two people who quit during the first five minutes of the game. Halo wars 1 knew this and thats why there were SEPERATE PLAYLISTS for people with and without parties.The game is forcing me to party with players just so that I dont have to worry about unreliable teammates Sorry for the paragraph, this is something I know many people can relate to and hope is addressed in the future by Creative assembely.
Maybe not many people are playing the game. After all there is no population counter like all halo games lately. Maybe Microsoft and 343 are trying to hide something. That’s the only rational explanation for them not including them recently.
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> > It really baffles me when others play 2v2 ranked and 3v3 ranked without a team, why would you disadvantage yourself like that? When you could just play 1v1’s? Just trying to understand the logic around this because if I wanted to play 3/2v’s I would do team war if not in a team.
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> 1’s is sooo damn stressful. It’s fun to play with a team, while still feeling competitive enough. Team play is inherently more fun, for me at least.
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> That being said, I don’t always want to find a couple guys just to play team war and not get stomped every match. A lesson could be learned from SC2’s matchmaking, where arrangements are reciprocated. Partial parties vs. partial parties. Full parties vs. full parties, etc.
Ya, I could have said something like this too. I tried some 1v1’s… They did not go well. Being a bit slower early game makes 1v1’s much harder to win or even stand a chance. with team games, especially 3v3, its more fun since their is more stuff and its easier for me to keep up with the rest and in rare moments, pull ahead… Though I am usually the small army just trailing the big one on our team.