Why would you want to remove join in progress? Teams that become down a player or two either through losing connection or ragequit are at a disadvantage. Join in progress allows you to ask a friend to help or for someone to randomly get put in the match to rebalance the teams.
I agree with pretty much all of that, but I would also add a nerf for the DMR by either decreasing it´s rate of fire, damage or something else. That thing just annihilates the balance in this game.
343, please don’t do these, this is damn stupid. It’s basically a complaint list of the people who only want what they want in the game and care for nobody else’s opinions.
This is just a thread full of butthurt opinions about ‘OP’ things in the game that player feel that are over-powered when actually the player just doesn’t have the ability to counteract these things on their own.
Stuff about team mates grenades doing damage is stupid.
Most of those I’d agree with, maybe not the killcam or instant respawn. You can skip the kill cam and you can wait till the timer respawns you if you want to.
I feel like if the guy killed me with a fully charged blotshot then I deserve it, it takes a little bit of skill to time the charge up right.
Maybe have join in progress work when the match has more than 8 minutes to go. Joined a match too many times when there is only a minute left.
Here are mine:
Ton down the Mantis a little.
bring back Big Team OBJECTIVE!!!
Bring back all the old emblems.
Would be great to see the falcon back, we’ve seen pictures of it in campaign so What the hell happened?
> Why would you want to remove join in progress? Teams that become down a player or two either through losing connection or ragequit are at a disadvantage. Join in progress allows you to ask a friend to help or for someone to randomly get put in the match to rebalance the teams.
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> Other than that I agree with everything else!
Only remove it in slayer - not big team. 3v4 is not necessarily a disadvantage - i quite enjoyed playing 3 on 4 sometimes, makes you stick together with your team more closely and work together
> 343, please don’t do these, this is damn stupid. It’s basically a complaint list of the people who only want what they want in the game and care for nobody else’s opinions.
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> This is just a thread full of butthurt opinions about ‘OP’ things in the game that player feel that are over-powered when actually the player just doesn’t have the ability to counteract these things on their own.
Also with regards to the boltshot - I do agree that you deserve to die if you get killed by it… but when you go 1 on 1 and you have a shotgun and still lose its a bit ridiculous
> Also with regards to the boltshot - I do agree that you deserve to die if you get killed by it… but when you go 1 on 1 and you have a shotgun and still lose its a bit ridiculous
so nerf the range then, if it loses its one shot kill at melee range it becomes useless, just make it so outside of the one shot range it does nothing, so its an all or nothing type of weapon.
Also buff the carbine and BR’s damage, and make the lightrifle have the same range a the dmr (red auto lock on range when scoped)
I agree with most of the stuff on that list but that’s only because I want Halo 4 to be more like Halo 3 instead of trying to imitate both CoD and Reach.
Most of these I can agree with, some I’d be ok to live without if the work required to make the change was impossible. Though I’d settle for a setting to join new games only, never join-in-progress sort of setting. Just so the people who don’t mind jumping in randomly can still do so.
Complex and Haven glitch spots fix too please. Flood and Oddball are basically unplayable. Spent half a Flood game stopping people by jumping in front of them as they tried to get into the Complex wall.
Add ‘yellow flashing’ service tag when teammates under attack Okay, but not needed.
Remove killcam completely ABSOLUTELY YES! (This is one of my biggest peeves)
Remove instant respawn completely NO, I like being able to get right back into the game if I choose.
Remove scorpion from Exile and replace with Mantis Okay
Remove Mantis from Ragnarok and Replace with Scorpion NO! I’ve gotten 25-0 and 22-0 with just the Mantis on Ragnarok. I’m LOVING it.
Change CTF playlist to the following: 1 Flag, touch return (traditional style) Not change the playlist, just make this a choice within the playlist.
Remove instant pick up of flag on CTF Okay
Add ability to drop flag on CTF Actually, I see why this was done and kind of am in agreement with it. Though I loved to juggle the flag in previous games, this adds a new spin to the playlist. Maybe have this as an option in customs or a variant within the CTF playlsit, but not completely.
Add assualt playlist - one bomb, no touch return Okay
Remove slayer pro playlist - to consolidate player population YES!!! It dilutes the pop!
Nerf boltshot so its charged attack removes shiled only as opposed to one shot YES
Buff pulse grenades somehow Meh, I’m okay with where they are now.
Add team snipers playlist Already going to happen so this one’s a moot point.
Add ‘regional filter’ for good connections in matchmaking Okay
Improve post game carnage report so you can actually see who won the game Yes, the post game needs a better interface.
Change scoring system to kills as opposed to ‘points’ i.e. first to 50 kills. NO. I like where it is now. It rewards though who help through assists too.
Buff warthog chaingun slightly I’m okay with where this is right now.
Buff wraith slightly I’m okay with where this is right now.
Remove join - in progress in infinity slayer YES! HUGE peeve with me.
Change join in progress in other game types so you cant join a game once it has been running for over 2 minutes Alright, but seriously I’d rather have the option to turn off join in progress if I choose. Too many times now I’ve been put on the other team than on my friends. I do NOT want to play against them. I want to play WITH.
Increase frequency of random weapon drops (very slightly say 1 more per game) NO! I think there are TOO many weapons drops already. Makes the game unbalanced and you never know what the other team has for power weapons.
Buff Covenant Concussion Rifle I’m okay with where this is right now.
Add slow effect to Covenant Storm Rifle (like the HaloCE plasma rifle) I’m okay with where this is right now.
Buff Covenant Carbine No, I’m okay with where this is right now.
Buff Energy Sword lunge range very slightly Yes, but buff it more than slightly. It’s got CRAZY lunge distance.
Prevent team grenades from dealing damage to vehicles once you are in them (i.e. stop people from sticking my mantis when I beat them too it) YES! That has happened to me and it’s irritating as heck
Buff warthog armour so it can take a little more damage I’m okay with where this is right now.
Add VISIBLE competitive ranking system to matchmaking i.e. level 1 - 50 Meh, I don’t really care about this. If there is no boosting okay, but I’m sure that would happen, so I’d prefer if this wasn’t shown in game lobby.
I’ll add that the servers should NOT start a game with disproportionate teams. This has happened a LOT. Whether I’m on the team with more players or less doesn’t matter so much as the fact that there are uneven teams to begin with. Why should a slayer match start out 3v4? Or how about an objective game starting out 5v2? Crazy. If people quit out of the lobby, then the game should look for a full set of players before starting the match. Yeah, I know the idea is to get people playing more games and faster. However, if I keep getting put into losing games with not a full team and/or that join in progress garbage where the team I’m joined with is losing badly, you’re going to find I play LESS games. I just can’t stand uneven and join in progress (heretofore known as JIP -which I feel like I have been at times, jipped that is.)
We really need to have the option to wait for a full game as well as when joining friends to be able to wait for them to finish a game before joining in. Or at the least if joining in that we NEVER get put on the opposing team. That does NOT promote teamwork.
> Here is THE Halo 4 patch list (realistic and constructive):
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> 1. Add ‘red X’ on team when dead
> 2. Add ‘yellow flashing’ service tag when teammates under attack
> 3. Remove killcam completely
> 4. Remove instant respawn completely
> 5. Remove scorpion from Exile and replace with Mantis
> 6. Remove Mantis from Ragnarok and Replace with Scorpion
> 7. Change CTF playlist to the following: 1 Flag, touch return (traditional style)
> 8. Remove instant pick up of flag on CTF
> 9. Add ability to drop flag on CTF
> 9. Add assualt playlist - one bomb, no touch return
> 10. Remove slayer pro playlist - to consolidate player population
> 11. Nerf boltshot so its charged attack removes shiled only as opposed to one shot
> 12. Buff pulse grenades somehow
> 13. Add team snipers playlist
> 14. Add ‘regional filter’ for good connections in matchmaking
> 15. Improve post game carnage report so you can actually see who won the game
> 16. Change scoring system to kills as opposed to ‘points’ i.e. first to 50 kills.
> 17. Buff warthog chaingun slightly
> 18. Buff wraith slightly
> 19. Remove join - in progress in infinity slayer
> 20. Change join in progress in other game types so you cant join a game once it has been running for over 2 minutes
> 21. Increase frequency of random weapon drops (very slightly say 1 more per game)
> 22. Buff Covenant Concussion Rifle
> 23. Add slow effect to Covenant Storm Rifle (like the HaloCE plasma rifle)
> 24. Buff Covenant Carbine
> 25. Buff Energy Sword lunge range very slightly
> 26. Prevent team grenades from dealing damage to vehicles once you are in them (i.e. stop people from sticking my mantis when I beat them too it)
> 27. Buff warthog armour so it can take a little more damage
> 28. Add VISIBLE competitive ranking system to matchmaking i.e. level 1 - 50
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> Feel free to add your own (realistic) suggestions so 343 can consider what to improve in the first patch.
yeah, see, there are reasonable, constructive changes that add something to the game, or fix something deathly wrong with it, and then there are purely ballance and gameplay changes like switching the mantis with something else, buffing a power weapon, taking out killcams, or removing instant respawn. You’re just one of those guys that can’t take a clue.
We do not need you. You are annoying and unconstructive. So if you dislike the changes to the game, stop playing. Do not panzee around, calling something essential when it’s your own flimsy opinion you’re projecting onto everyone else.
> Stuff about team mates grenades doing damage is stupid.
Not really, it’s getting out of hand, so many times has the situation the OP describes happened to me or in front of me it’s crazy.
Just a few minutes ago I tried to save this guys mantis from being boarded, I managed to kill the boarder but a second too late so the mantis died.
Next time the mantis spawned I was nearby with no one else around, so I ran for it, as I ran the guy I had tried to save spawned next to me and went for it too.
I managed to get it but he threw two plasma grenades on me, leaving me in an almost destroyed mantis that a warthog tore apart seconds later.
I was so angry that I sent him a message asking why he did that and then put my controller down for a couple of minutes to calm down. I tried to save him and the thanks I got was practically being betrayed.
> Why would you want to remove join in progress? Teams that become down a player or two either through losing connection or ragequit are at a disadvantage. Join in progress allows you to ask a friend to help or for someone to randomly get put in the match to rebalance the teams.
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> Other than that I agree with everything else!
Because why should I be able to join a game on the losing team getting spawn trapped and having completely no chance to win? All I want to do is play the game from the start. I don’t need to wait for the game to finish when I’m on the losing team.
Also: Why add in the JIP system onto Halo 4, when there’s quit bans?!
> 1. Add ‘red X’ on team when dead
> 2. Add ‘yellow flashing’ service tag when teammates under attack
> 7. Change CTF playlist to the following: 1 Flag, touch return (traditional style)
> 8. Remove instant pick up of flag on CTF
> 9. Add ability to drop flag on CTF
> 9. Add assualt playlist - one bomb, no touch return
> 10. Remove slayer pro playlist - to consolidate player population
> 14. Add ‘regional filter’ for good connections in matchmaking
> 23. Add a slow effect to Covenant Storm Rifle (like the Halo: Combat Evolved Plasma Rifle)
I agree with the following. As for the rest, I’m not really bothered with.