Ugh, AR AND BR starts? I just want AR starts

How hard can it be to make an exact replicate of the slayer playlist and make it AR starts?

Please do this 343.

Please don’t do this 343. I prefer using a skillful weapon as in the BR. Spray battles aren’t exciting to me.

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> Please don’t do this 343. I prefer using a skillful weapon as in the BR. Spray battles aren’t exciting to me.

Agreed.

Give them AR starts, the BR fans complain. Give them BR starts, the AR fans complain. Give them AR/BR starts, the AR fans complain again. I think the AR fans are the ones unwilling to compromise now.

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> > Please don’t do this 343. I prefer using a skillful weapon as in the BR. Spray battles aren’t exciting to me.
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> Agreed.
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> Give them AR starts, the BR fans complain. Give them BR starts, the AR fans complain. Give them AR/BR starts, the AR fans complain again. I think the AR fans are the ones unwilling to compromise now.

Yes, that is because one to one, AR>BR

Both is good.

Stop being selfish.

It’s not about who is good with what. It’s about the flow of the game and how players interact.

BR starts just don’t make for very interesting gameplay. There’s hardly any weapon variety. Just BR kill after BR kill.

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> It’s not about who is good with what. It’s about the flow of the game and how players interact.
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> BR starts just don’t make for very interesting gameplay. There’s hardly any weapon variety. Just BR kill after BR kill.

With AR starts it’s just AR kill after AR kill until I find a BR. That’s hardly any different. Except I can’t help my teammates with assists with a short range auto. And individual 1v1 fights are just a spray-fest.

100% no to AR starts.

BR starts kills map flow… With AR starts not only does your team have to control Power weapon but also BR and DMR spawns. With AR starts you have an opportunity of Map Control with BR starts you have Spawn Killing and Camping

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> > It’s not about who is good with what. It’s about the flow of the game and how players interact.
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> > BR starts just don’t make for very interesting gameplay. There’s hardly any weapon variety. Just BR kill after BR kill.
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> With AR starts it’s just AR kill after AR kill until I find a BR. That’s hardly any different. Except I can’t help my teammates with assists with a short range auto. And individual 1v1 fights are just a spray-fest.
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> 100% no to AR starts.

Except not. I see people use both the magnum and AR on AR starts and people pick up and use any weapon the find.

I kill with and get killed by a much larger variety of weapons on AR starts.

On BR starts, 90% of my deaths are BR, another 8% are from power weapons, and the last 2% are from all the rest.

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> > > It’s not about who is good with what. It’s about the flow of the game and how players interact.
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> > > BR starts just don’t make for very interesting gameplay. There’s hardly any weapon variety. Just BR kill after BR kill.
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> > With AR starts it’s just AR kill after AR kill until I find a BR. That’s hardly any different. Except I can’t help my teammates with assists with a short range auto. And individual 1v1 fights are just a spray-fest.
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> > 100% no to AR starts.
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> Except not. I see people use both the magnum and AR on AR starts and people pick up and use any weapon the find.
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> I kill with and get killed by a much larger variety of weapons on AR starts.
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> On BR starts, 90% of my deaths are BR, another 8% are from power weapons, and the last 2% are from all the rest.

Exactly. AR is the perfect starting weapon. Its competent enough to hold its own against the rest of the sandbox until you find something better, but because its mid to close range it promotes player movement and map and weapon control. When you spawn with the BR you are forced to use that weapon for the duration of the match. Might as well take the rest of the weapons off the map entirely (power weapons excluded) because no one is putting that gun down. And before any wannabe pros start ragging me for being a filthy pray-n-spray AR lover, I’m quite competent with precision weapons. I seek out the BR or DMR more than anything. But I am a fan of variety, first and foremost. Halo has always been my favorite shooter for this reason. With BR starts, it warps the multi-player into a very one-dimensional, limited experience. Hopefully they return us to the veto system when the full game releases so we have a shot at classic starts. But If BR starts begin to dominate any one playlist i will surely steer clear. A stupid rank isn’t worth sacrificing a fun experience.

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> Please don’t do this 343. I prefer using a skillful weapon as in the BR. Spray battles aren’t exciting to me.

yet the BR is the easiest to use weapon in Halo.

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> > > > It’s not about who is good with what. It’s about the flow of the game and how players interact.
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> > > > BR starts just don’t make for very interesting gameplay. There’s hardly any weapon variety. Just BR kill after BR kill.
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> > > With AR starts it’s just AR kill after AR kill until I find a BR. That’s hardly any different. Except I can’t help my teammates with assists with a short range auto. And individual 1v1 fights are just a spray-fest.
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> > > 100% no to AR starts.
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> > Except not. I see people use both the magnum and AR on AR starts and people pick up and use any weapon the find.
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> > I kill with and get killed by a much larger variety of weapons on AR starts.
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> > On BR starts, 90% of my deaths are BR, another 8% are from power weapons, and the last 2% are from all the rest.
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> Exactly. AR is the perfect starting weapon. Its competent enough to hold its own against the rest of the sandbox until you find something better, but because its mid to close range it promotes player movement and map and weapon control. When you spawn with the BR you are forced to use that weapon for the duration of the match. Might as well take the rest of the weapons off the map entirely (power weapons excluded) because no one is putting that gun down. And before any wannabe pros start ragging me for being a filthy pray-n-spray AR lover, I’m quite competent with precision weapons. I seek out the BR or DMR more than anything. But I am a fan of variety, first and foremost. Halo has always been my favorite shooter for this reason. With BR starts, it warps the multi-player into a very one-dimensional, limited experience. Hopefully they return us to the veto system when the full game releases so we have a shot at classic starts. But If BR starts begin to dominate any one playlist i will surely steer clear. A stupid rank isn’t worth sacrificing a fun experience.

this

BR starts are better (in my opinion) because they give you a fighting chance off the spawn in just about any situation.

Assault rifle starts, better. Should be main staple weapon.

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> BR starts are better (in my opinion) because they give you a fighting chance off the spawn in just about any situation.

The only reason I loved br starts in Halo 2 and 3 is because all other weapons were worthless.

Now the AR is actually good. I’ve never seen a team shut down just because they had all the BRs and DMRs.

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> > It’s not about who is good with what. It’s about the flow of the game and how players interact.
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> > BR starts just don’t make for very interesting gameplay. There’s hardly any weapon variety. Just BR kill after BR kill.
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> With AR starts it’s just AR kill after AR kill until I find a BR. That’s hardly any different. Except I can’t help my teammates with assists with a short range auto. And individual 1v1 fights are just a spray-fest.
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> 100% no to AR starts.

haha I like both starts for variety, but this comment wins.

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> BR starts, better. Should be main staple weapon.

Fixd it for you.

Just put them both in there and use the veto system or the current system and randomize it.

geez at this rate magnum starts are probably best since none of you can ever agree.

Pegasus with AR starts… no thanks.

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> Pegasus with AR starts… no thanks.

That map would probably play better with AR starts since more skill would come into play knowing where other weapons are located and having to move around the map. As of now, teams just sit either up top or down at sniper spawn and camp.